posted on Dec, 18 2008 @ 08:37 PM
jeepers folks, hehe. i watched these 2 films today, and believed them. It's quite compelling stuff. There's eye-witness accounts from fire-fighters
from 9/11, and accounts from folks that were in the twin towers. Film footage of the weird way the planes vaporised, etc. Along with scientific stuff
on molten steel, thermite, etc.
A person could not be blamed for believing that.
I'm surprised at you folks though. You watch a film, under the umbrella of a documentary, and from the looks of the participants stance on this
thread, so many automatically beleive it? Tell me why? Why have you all not went and automatically begun your own research? The answer is because you
are already biased, and the whole film fits in with your views. I'm speaking bout part 1 here. And no, i follow no religion, but believe in a
creative force. I don't need any pseudo-political religion to tell ME how to expereince God.
What i do like, is to research things. What the OP is alluding to is correct. Horus wasn't crucified either. A star never followed his birth. Isis
isn't regarded as Isis-miri (Mary). However, the birth of Horus was a miracle (see below), although there is no evidence Isis was a virgin, like
Mary. And this is what Zietgeist is alluding to, as it is comparing Isis/Horus to Mary/Jesus.
The three wise men. The bible never mentions the number 3 in regard to this, so that attempted correlation is inaccurate.
Horus did not have 12 disciples. He had 4 demi-god followers.
It's early days, but i can find no record of Horus walking on water.
Isis was impreganted by the severed penis of Osiris. a miracle by anyones standards.
Just research Egyptian mythology, you'll see for yourselves.
A lot of the source in Zeitgeist attacking christianity comes from 'The Christ Conspiracy by a New Age author, named Acharya S'. she provides so
little sources, it is next to impossible to verify. Just like it is next to impossible to verify the credentials she says she possess academically.
Ok, so why the heck is this thread important some of you ask? You must know, else why are you even writing in it, hehe. This site is supposed to bhe
about seeking the truth. So, when a conspiracy film comes along passing it's contents as fact, and this site in particular tends to beleive it,
without even researching it, then this thread definitely deserves to be here, imo.
I watched Zeitgeist earlier. It's 2.22 am now, and i've only been researching part 1 for approx 8 hours. And already it is very plain to see to me,
that there are serious errors in the veracity of part 1.
This matters because it is lumped in with stuff that is very compelling, part 2 precisely. I have to ask, as i have researched and initially came to a
decision that Peter Joseph is either deliberately telling lies in part 1, or incompetant. Any good researcher (as he should be) should check sources
well. I wonder what the motive is (if any) , of why he has made claims so easily found out.
Christianity is surely a political platform for sure. To try to show it as some kinda big lie, by giving examples that are untrue themselves, is
curious to me.
Anyhow. Paganism & christianity. Blame that on Emporer constantine & the council of Nicea. He brought into play the pagan stuff when he made ti the
state religion in Rome. He had to, to appease the pagans. This was some 300 years after the purported death of Jesus.
speaking of which...hehe. There are approx. 44 individual pieces of ancient text, some by historians, that have been wrote within 150 years of Jesus
death, that mention him.
There are only 10 individual pieces of text that mention Julius Ceaser.
Yet, more folks believe Ceaser existed, than Jesus. that's interesting.
Like i said, i'm not religious, i don't need it to know God. The historical 'facts' in part 1 are wrong though. This goes to the veracity,
objectiveness, and competence of Peter. check Zeitgeist's sources for part 1, they are mostly anti-christian books. Wayne