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Terror suspects all linked to NHS

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posted on Jul, 3 2007 @ 01:32 PM
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BBC News reports

Eight people arrested in connection with failed car bombings in Glasgow and London all have links with the National Health Service, the BBC has learned.

Seven are believed to be doctors or medical students, while one formerly worked as a laboratory technician.

A suspect in hospital after the Glasgow attack has been named as Khalid Ahmed, who is believed to be a doctor.

Two men have been arrested in Blackburn under terror laws but police have not confirmed a link with the car bombs.
news.bbc.co.uk...


Also see:
news.bbc.co.uk...

and:
news.bbc.co.uk...

This kind of flies in the face of those that say it's our open-door immigration policy that's to blame for the terror attacks.

The fact is, that these terrorists come from all walks of life, and as we can see are sometimes highly intelligent.
They are not all impressionable youngsters brainwashed by extremists.




posted on Jul, 3 2007 @ 02:30 PM
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Heh heh. Yes, they're hoping most will take their eye off the real clues and instead will focus on the 'foreign doctors' red-herring.


But those who're too smart and experienced (thanks to experience of the whore media's lies) will note that the same Israeli 'security' company is involved in this latest little Glasgow false-flag incident and the bus-bombings -- and 9-11 !




Fortress GB is an Israeli-run company doing business in Great Britain. It is on the same floor, in the same building, as ICTS UK, which is another Israeli transportation security firm.

ICTS UK Ltd.and Fortress GB Ltd. are both located on the 1st floor of T@vi st0ck House South, which is exactly where the bus blew up on July 7.




As someone speculated very recently, it seems the two 'suspects' were drugged and/or mind-controlled and placed in the car *and* set on fire, before it was aimed-at the Glasgow building ----- after which, when the scam failed --- it was claimed that 'one of the men attempted to set himself on fire'.



These Israeli security firms need to be investigated in light of the London bombings, because they provide "security technology" for the tube lines that were bombed.



interactive.zogby.com...

www.declarepeace.org.uk/captain/mur.../site/CCTV.html



And THIS is interesting, isn't it .....



ICTS International were the company who ran the security arrangements at ALL the airports from where the hijacked airliners departed from on the morning of September 11th, 2001.


Connecting the dots just gets easier and easier.



posted on Jul, 3 2007 @ 02:38 PM
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Originally posted by Dock6

As someone speculated very recently, it seems the two 'suspects' were drugged and/or mind-controlled and placed in the car *and* set on fire, before it was aimed-at the Glasgow building ----- after which, when the scam failed --- it was claimed that 'one of the men attempted to set himself on fire'.


Just out of interest, do we only have speculation to go on or is there other sources available?



posted on Jul, 3 2007 @ 02:45 PM
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well according to Ch 4 (UK) one of the doctors was training in Cambridgeshire up to 2-3 years ago and clearly expressed his support (back then) for Iraqi insurgency. If he was that open about it then he should have been picked up on Intel's radar surely...



posted on Jul, 3 2007 @ 02:56 PM
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False flag?
Israeli?
Mind control?

Not everything is an Israeli plot.

Anti semitism is alive and well on this thread it seems.

What a crock.



posted on Jul, 3 2007 @ 02:59 PM
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Originally posted by kickoutthejams
well according to Ch 4 (UK) one of the doctors was training in Cambridgeshire up to 2-3 years ago and clearly expressed his support (back then) for Iraqi insurgency. If he was that open about it then he should have been picked up on Intel's radar surely...


You would have thought so eh?

But as this is "clearly" an israeli plot, according to some - should we be surprised that the security forces didn't pick it up?

After all, the deluded few think israel control the planet.

Racism sux



posted on Jul, 3 2007 @ 03:07 PM
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To infiltrate as a doctor, a medical student, not to say laboratory technician I think would take some effort put in it, which doesent really fit in with the lame ass so called terrorist attacks we are talking about here.

Looks more like this is just some kind of action to put the wrong people in the spotlight, making room for something else.



posted on Jul, 3 2007 @ 03:20 PM
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While Israel has used non-nationals in covert ops in the past I really can't see the connection people are making here, seems a reach...

What I really don't get is that how Doctors, a group of them, who combined within their own field of expertise could unleash who knows what? with devastating effect. Then manage to completely botch something so relatively simple as they attempted. I'm glad it was botched of course but on the one hand: a bunch of disparate nationalities combining to work together and gain entry to the UK through the comparitively instensive study of medical doctors (years of training etc).

On the other hand: proceed to launch a badly coordinated and botched attack blowing open not only their own cover but a previously unknown access route for their own (i.e. that of entry to UK via NHS medical community)

It seems to have squandered an awful lot and still doesn't stack up to me.



posted on Jul, 3 2007 @ 03:25 PM
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It probably didn't seem badly conceived when they planned it.

Most operations, including government ones look like complete cock ups when they don't go according to plan.



posted on Jul, 3 2007 @ 03:29 PM
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But it does seem badly conceieved, the first car swerving about and crashing into the bins probably because the driver was overcome fumes (a test drive could have solved that, or opening the windows or aircon), the second car getting towed away from where it was left (the congestion charge in London and parking zones are fairly easy to understand, especially for a Doctor level educated person surely?)

The Glasgow incident, the anti-terror barrier that stopped the vehicle entering the terminal had been there some time...



posted on Jul, 3 2007 @ 03:32 PM
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Originally posted by darksky
To infiltrate as a doctor, a medical student, not to say laboratory technician I think would take some effort put in it, which doesent really fit in with the lame ass so called terrorist attacks we are talking about here.

Looks more like this is just some kind of action to put the wrong people in the spotlight, making room for something else.


Theres no logic in the ability to pretend to be a doctor, when doctors can become terrorists already. Remember Al Qaeda second in command Al Zawahiri? He's a doctor himself.

[edit on 3-7-2007 by deltaboy]



posted on Jul, 3 2007 @ 05:01 PM
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Well maybe there was a thought behind it that wasnt what has become of all this?

What im saying is just that, if the info about these people being doctors and medical students is right, it really doesent make sense regarding the terrorist acts we have witnessed here.



posted on Jul, 4 2007 @ 03:02 AM
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Budski it is a well known fact that Mossad and their counterparts in the UK/US are behind many of these so called terrorist attacks. Israel itself was a nation born out of Jewish terrorism so they have had plenty of experience in killing people.

As for these latest attacks it has all the touches of their work, we are in a holy war, and the murdering scumbags, Jews, Zionists, Catholics, Muslims etc. are all of the same colour.

What the Zionists want is the rapture they want ourselves and the Muslims to wipe each other out so they the meek can inherit the Earth.

Why dont we just admit that the real axis of evil is the US/UK/I, they are the ones going around invading and occupying other peoples countries and one should expect the peoples of said countries and their friends to fight back when we kill, maim, torture rob etc. them.

If you wangt to live peacfully you need to do two things, stop waging war (US/UK)and stop others who are allegedly your allies from provoking conflicts (Israel).



posted on Jul, 4 2007 @ 03:14 AM
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I do hope these racism comments are not including me.

I was actually highlighting the stupidity of the "speculated" paragraph i mentioned. I certainly wasn't agreeing with the poster



posted on Jul, 4 2007 @ 04:46 AM
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I seriously doubt that these medical professionals came to UK with terrorism in mind (There are far easier ways to get in), but that they instead became terrorists while they were in the UK, by the infuence of recent situations in the Middle-East.

These attacks were not planned by the very experienced terrorists in ME, so it's probably a individual group turned radical. If they'd entered UK with terror in mind, they would have probably consulted with afgani/iraqi bomb makers and the attacks might have succeeded better (for them).



posted on Jul, 4 2007 @ 04:57 AM
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Originally posted by Dock6

Connecting the dots just gets easier and easier.

Interesting company...


ICTS Europe

ICTS - International Consultants on Targeted Security - has long been a name synonymous with Aviation Security. The world leader in its field, ICTS - founded in 1982 - has been at the forefront of the global Aviation Sector for over two decades, building an unrivalled reputation for professional integrity, service quality, innovation and commercial ethos.


ICTS Europe Buys Majority Stake in MUSC

Jan. 21 2005


MUSC is one of the longest-established specialists in maritime and cargo security in the world. Based in London, MUSC has offices in Houston, Lagos, Piraeus Singapore and Tallinn. The company also has recognized security organization (RSO) status in some 17 countries. Indeed, during its 30-year history MUSC has operated in most parts of the world.

[---]

In John Burnett's book Dangerous Waters, the company was described as "one of the busiest anti-terrorist, anti-piracy companies in the world."
Zamir Eldar, ICTS Europe's chief executive officer, said: "Together, ICTS Europe and MUSC will be able to provide clients with a complete maritime security service, from the initial assessment and planning and design, through to equipment provision and leasing, systems integration and on-site implementation and training. With MUSC's expertise in port and ship security, and ICTS's unrivalled security operational know-how, we are ideal partners with complementary services. Thus, customers benefit from cost effective, innovative and complete security solutions."

Seems like they're everywhere. Even in Tallinn, Estonia. Flashback: The sinking of ferry Estonia...

But this is totally unrelated to the topic of this thread, which is:
"Terror suspects all linked to NHS".
Carry on



posted on Jul, 4 2007 @ 08:03 AM
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More news as Gordon Brown seeks review of NHS procedures with the possibility of more background checks.

news.bbc.co.uk...

The NHS has been recruiting abroad for many years, and many fine doctors and nurses have come from other countries.

Lets hope this doesn't spoil that.

Another thought is how a terror cell could operate within the NHS and not get picked up? Too much trust for doctors?

And on a slightly different note, did the attempted bombings utilise everyday items (petrol, gas bottles, nails) in an attempt to circumvent detection and get away with it?

Was this to be used for recruitment purposes within the NHS?



posted on Jul, 4 2007 @ 12:53 PM
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Originally posted by budski
False flag?
Israeli?
Mind control?

Not everything is an Israeli plot.

Anti semitism is alive and well on this thread it seems.

What a crock.


Um...Last time I checked being anti-Israel is different than being anti-semetic.

Anti-semetism implies hate of a people. Israel is a nation, not a 'people.' You in fact sir, are wrong.

Anti-semetism also implies hatred of the whole 'semetic' race which includes Arabs as well. And I don't think the poster you are calling anti-semetic has any problem with Jews or Arabs or Muslims.

The Israeli government has shown a less than Godly side over the past 60 years of their existence. Does that mean the Israeli people or Jewish people are terrible godless terrorists? Certainly NOT!

In fact, I would say quite the opposite. A vast majority only want peace, along with the rest of the world. That does not mean their leaders feel the same way.

Politicians want more money and with money comes power.

'In this country, you gotta make the money first. Then when you get the money, you get the power. Then when you get the power, then you get the women.' Scarface quote.

Don't be so quick to judge other's opinions, maybe you'll find a little bit of truth in it.


Immortal Technique - Cause of Death lyrics

Maybe this will open your eyes a little bit, or send you into deeper denial who knows. I try at least. That's all I can do.



'And they thought nobody noticed the news report that they did
About the bombs planted on the George Washington bridge
Four Non-Arabs arrested during the emergency
And then it disappeared from the news permanently
They dubbed a tape of Osama, and they said it was proof
"Jealous of our freedom," I can't believe you bought that excuse
Rockin a *explicit* flag don't make you a hero
Word to Ground Zero
The Devil crept into Heaven, God overslept on the 7th
The New World Order was born on September 11'

[edit on 4-7-2007 by biggie smalls]



posted on Jul, 4 2007 @ 01:04 PM
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What I find most disturbing about this is not the anti-semetism, there are always a lot of Jew Haters on here, but you have to figure there would be. People that are so inbred they cant hold a job, read, spell and live off welfare have a lot of time to go online and spew their trash.

Now why is this so interesting to me? The security Company that Marvin Bush headed, that carried the airport and WTC security contracts until 9/11 have dissappeared from the memorys of all the ATS'rs. Yes that is correct Securacom, or whatever the speelling is, the kuwaiti/Saudi security company that had Marvin Bus, the Presidents little brother, at its helm until 9/10 actually carried the security contracts on Boston Airport, Dulles, and the WTC complex.

For those that don't recall look at the link below then stop your JEWS DID IT ALL crap and take it to your Klan rally.

Bush Security on 9/11



posted on Jul, 4 2007 @ 01:40 PM
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Well biggie smalls, here's the wiki definition:


Antisemitism (alternatively spelled anti-semitism or anti-Semitism) is discrimination, hostility or prejudice directed at Jews[1] as a religious, racial, or ethnic group.[2] Antisemitism has been called "the longest hatred."[3] Its instances range from individual hatred to institutionalized, violent persecution. Extreme instances of persecution include the Spanish Inquisition, eviction from Spain, various pogroms, and the most infamous, Adolf Hitler's Holocaust


I'd say that pretty much agrees with what I said.

Now back to the issue at hand if you'd be so kind.
Several of the bombers, one a neurosurgeon, all linked to the NHS?



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