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Mig 33 Super-Fulcrum and Mig 35 Flashback


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Topic started on 29-11-2002 @ 05:03 PM by ultra_phoenix


Title: MiG-29? No, MiG-33!

Authors: Anatoly Belosvet, Mikoyan design bureau, deputy
general designer,
Yuri Polushkin, Mikoyan design bureau, branch manager

[Abridged translation]

Demonstrated for the first time at Farnborough-94, the MiG-33,
a new Russian fighter, is a deep modernisation of the MiG-29.
The main goals of the modernisation were:
- multifunctionality with further growth of air-to-air and air-to-
ground capability widely using high-precision weapons;
- considerable growth of combat range owing to an increase
in the internal fuel capacity;
- better pilot-to-aircraft interface in the cockpit;
- introduction of new-generation equipment.

The Mig-33 is named the Fulcrum Plus or flashback and is essentially a spruced-up version of the Mig-29. A proposed MiG-35 (the Super Fulcrum, how original) is also in development. I think they've just run out of names beginning with 'F' to be honest.

aeroweb.lucia.it...



[Edited on 29-11-2002 by ultra_phoenix]

[Edited on 9-1-2003 by ultra_phoenix]



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reply posted on 29-11-2002 @ 05:57 PM by necro99


:drool:
Will this be the Mig-21 of the 21st Century?
I HOPE SO!!!!!!
*Readies his wallet*



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reply posted on 30-11-2002 @ 05:16 AM by ultra_phoenix


The Mig-21 of the 21st Century ? We don't have to worry so.

The Mig-21 was a good fighter, but he never won a dogfight or another air combat against a western fighter.



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reply posted on 30-11-2002 @ 01:21 PM by KKing123


isn't the Mig 35 the designation of the Mig 1.42?



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reply posted on 30-11-2002 @ 02:37 PM by ultra_phoenix


Originally posted by KKing123
isn't the Mig 35 the designation of the Mig 1.42?


Yes, I think.



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reply posted on 1-12-2002 @ 02:53 AM by KKing123


I thought so, to bad they can't produce those, it's a gorgeous airplane...i wonder what the Indian/Russian 5th gen hybrid will look like?



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reply posted on 2-12-2002 @ 06:40 AM by ultra_phoenix


Is it the Mig 35 Super-Fulcrum ?





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reply posted on 3-12-2002 @ 09:12 PM by KKing123


that's the MiG project 1.42 (yes, now officially designated the MiG 35) but that's not the super-fulcrum, the super-fuclrum is the MiG-33, which is a modified, souped up, fulcrum, it looks like the fulcrum

the MiG-35 will never be put into production as it's too expensive and Russia is too poor, technology from it will be incorporated into the new Russian/India 5th gen fighter



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reply posted on 4-12-2002 @ 04:23 AM by ultra_phoenix


This Mig is looking cool. It's the first Mig that I like, and it will not go in production.

It has a good shape & design.



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reply posted on 4-12-2002 @ 04:38 AM by Estragon


Interested readers will find quite a lot on this if they dig in the archives.
that certainly is the Mig-35 in the picture.
You'll also find in the archives a discussion of the difficulty of keeping up with Russian classification numbers. The Foxbat/Flogger/Fulcrum stuf is, of course, given by NATO not the Russians, and I can't imagine NATO is very bothered now. In theory, unless they find some very weird archaic word starting 'Fy-" they'd have to go back to "Fa-" after Fulcrum.
This plane has been the 1.42, the 1.44, I-42 and I-44 - the "MiG-35" and the "MiG-39" to the best of my knowledge.
It was indeed scrapped -that makes it no new planes for the Russians since 1996 and nothing even promised until 2005.



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reply posted on 6-12-2002 @ 04:26 PM by mrbunnyman


This is not a Fulcrum. The Mig 29 Fulcrum is the Nato designation for the aircraft not the russians.

This aircraft is the 1.42 it's a technology demostrator and nothing else. The russian military right now does not have the money to build the new fighter.

Their latest is the SU-37 Flanker and that's the best I got.

The MIG series is as follows
MIG-15 Fagot
MIG-17
MIG-19
MIG-21 Fishbed
MIG-23/27 Flogger
MIG-25 Foxbat
MIG-29 Fulcrum
MIG-31 Foxhound

www.fas.org is a good resource



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reply posted on 6-12-2002 @ 04:29 PM by KKing123


the official designation of the aircraft is actually the Mig-35 now, they did that a few months ago, read the replies before you post on the topic mrbunnyman, you basically restated what i did



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reply posted on 7-12-2002 @ 08:56 AM by ultra_phoenix


KKing123, I've found a new Mig 1.42 pic.





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reply posted on 7-12-2002 @ 01:29 PM by KKing123


*sits in awe at the gorgeous aircraft*



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reply posted on 10-12-2002 @ 01:57 PM by mrbunnyman


Actually to be nitpicky about it there is no formall designation for the aircraft because it's not in production

MIG 35, 1.42 etc are names observers have come up with.

anyway though who cares?? my only point was that it's not related to the Fulcrum nor is it a variant of the Fulcrum it's a new design


www.fas.org
web search: search.yahoo.com... lots of references out there

MiG-35 / 1.42 Multirole Front-Line Fighter [MFI]
The new MiG Multirole Front-Line Fighter [MFI - Mnogofounksionalni Frontovoi Istrebiel ] was unveiled publicly on 12 January 1999. The project has been under development since 1986, is variously designated the 1.42, the 1.44, I-42 and I-44 - the "MiG-35" and "MiG-39" designations are informally applied by some observers. This multi-functional front-line fifth-generation fighter was developed by the MIG [Mikoyan & Gurevich] aviation scientific and production complex of the MAPO military-industrial corporation. The first prototype was delivered early in 1994, and in December 1884 taxi-tests were conducted following which further work was suspended due to a shortage of funds. The 35-ton fighter features a single under-fuselage air intake with two AL41F engines of 20 tons thrust each, and a top speed of over 2,500 km/h. The twin-tail "duck" planform features an all-moving canard-type foreplane with a wingspan of about 15 meters and a length of about 20 meters.



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reply posted on 10-12-2002 @ 02:42 PM by KKing123


FAS's information is dated on severeal topics, it was given the designation MiG-35 earlier this year, and, again, other then that bit you have restated what i said, stop arguing with somebody who's saying the same thing that you are



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reply posted on 11-12-2002 @ 06:30 PM by MakodFilu


Originally posted by mrbunnyman
The MIG series is as follows
MIG-15 Fagot
MIG-17
MIG-19
MIG-21 Fishbed
MIG-23/27 Flogger
MIG-25 Foxbat
MIG-29 Fulcrum
MIG-31 Foxhound

www.fas.org is a good resource

MiG-17 Fresco
MiG-19 Farmer

...but granted, the Russians told them by different names...

About the MiG-33, see this:

www.fas.org...

...and this...

wmilitary.neurok.ru...



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reply posted on 12-12-2002 @ 01:16 AM by ultra_phoenix





























[Edited on 12-12-2002 by ultra_phoenix]



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reply posted on 12-12-2002 @ 04:22 AM by Estragon


As I've posted -these names were given by the West not the Russians.
This is about as good as you'll get for a handy and authoritative list:
aeroweb.lucia.it...



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reply posted on 15-12-2002 @ 12:21 PM by necro99


Originally posted by ultra_phoenix
The Mig-21 was a good fighter, but he never won a dogfight or another air combat against a western fighter.


VIET-NAM
ISRAELI - ARAB WAR
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