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reply posted on 10-6-2010 @ 07:32 AM by Pharyax
Originally posted by Danbones
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i counted how many adds in a news paper
i counted how many adds on CNN
i counted how many adds on faux
I counted how many adds on ats

feel smarter yet?



Yep. Since you don't know how to spell AD correctly. lol.

Alex Jones website has three times as many ADS as any of those you stated.


reply posted on 10-6-2010 @ 07:34 AM by Danbones
rawstory.com...

Bush memos parallel claim 9/11 mastermind’s children were tortured with insects

Bush Administration memos released by the White House on Thursday provide new insight into claims that American agents used insects to torture the young children of alleged 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.

In the memos, released Thursday, the Bush Administration White House Office of Legal Counsel offered its endorsement of CIA torture methods that involved placing an insect in a cramped, confined box with detainees. Jay S. Bybee, then-director of the OLC, wrote that insects could be used to capitalize on detainees’ fears.

The memo was dated Aug. 1, 2002. Khalid Sheikh Mohammed’s children were captured and held in Pakistan the following month, according to a report by Human Rights Watch.

While an additional memo released Thursday claims that the torture with insects technique was never utilized by the CIA, the allegations regarding the children would have transpired when the method was authorized by the Bush Administration.

At a military tribunal in 2007, the father of a Guantanamo detainee alleged that Pakistani guards had confessed that American interrogators used ants to coerce the children of alleged 9/11 mastermind Khalid Shaikh Mohammed into revealing their father’s whereabouts.

The statement was made by Ali Khan, the father of detainee Majid Khan, who gave a detailed account of his son’s interrogation at the hands of American guards in Pakistan. In his statement, Khan asserted that one of his sons was held at the same place as the young children of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the alleged mastermind of the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks.

“The Pakistani guards told my son that the boys were kept in a separate area upstairs and were denied food and water by other guards,” the statement read. “They were also mentally tortured by having ants or other creatures put on their legs to scare them and get them to say where their father was hiding.” (A pdf transcript is available here)

Khan’s statement is second-hand. But the picture he paints of his son’s interrogation at the hands of American interrogators is strikingly similar to the accounts given by numerous other detainees to the International Red Cross. The timing of the capture of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed’s son — then aged seven and nine — also meshes with a report by Human Rights Watch, which says that the children were captured in September 2002 and held for four months at the hands of American guards.

“According to eyewitnesses, the two were held in an adult detention center for at least four months while U.S. agents questioned the children about their father’s whereabouts,” the report said.

The use of insects isn’t mentioned in a recently leaked International Red Cross report, in which Red Cross officials questioned detainees about their treatment at the hands of US forces and ultimately judged them to have been tortured. A second memo released Thursday, dated May 10, 2005, says the CIA told the White House insects were never actually used in interrogations.

“We understand that — for reasons unrelated to any concerns that it might violate the [criminal] statute — the CIA never used the technique and has removed it from the list of authorized interrogation techniques,” Steven Bradbury, a principal deputy assistant attorney general, wrote in a footnote.

It’s worth noting, however, that the Red Cross was denied access to individuals held at CIA black sites. Khan’s son, Majid, was among those President Bush moved from the CIA’s secret prison network to Guantanamo Bay.

The techniques Khan says were employed against his son also match those approved in the Bybee memo.

“What I can tell you is that Majid was kidnapped from my son Mohammed’s [not related Khalid Sheikh Mohammed] house in Karachi, along with Mohammed, his wife, and my infant granddaughter,” Khan said in his military tribunal statement. “They were captured by Pakistani police and soldiers and taken to a detention center fifteen minutes from Mohammed’s house. The center had walls that seemed to be eighty feet high. My sons were hooded, handcuffed, and interrogated. After eight days of interrogation by US and Pakistani agents, including FBI agents, Mohammed was allowed to see Majid.

“Majhid looked terrible and very, very tired,” Khan continued. “According to Mohammed, Majid said that the Americans tortured him for eight hours at a time, tying him tightly in stressful positions in a small chair until his hands, feet and mind went numb. They re-tied him in the chair every hour, tightening the bonds on his hands and feet each time so that it was more painful. He was often hooded and had difficulty breathing. They also beat him repeatedly, slapping him in the face, and deprived him of sleep. When he was not being interrogated, the Americans put Majid in a small cell that was totally dark and too small for him to lie down in or sit in with his legs stretched out. He had to crouch. The room was also infested with mosquitoes. The torture only stopped when Majid agreed to sign a statement that he was not even allowed to read.”

Later in his statement, Khan alleges that the Pakistani guards revealed other abuses by American agents.

“The Americans also once stripped and beat two Arab boys, ages fourteen and sixteen, who were turned over by the Pakistani guards at the detention center,” he said. “These guards told my son that they were very upset at this and said the boys were thrown like garbage onto a plane to Guantanamo. Women prisoners were also held there, apart from their husbands, and some were pregnant and forced to give birth in their cells. According to Mohammed, one woman also died in her cell because the guards could not get her to a hospital quickly enough. This was most upsetting to the Pakistani guards.”

One blogger notes, “The first indications the children may have been tortured were reported in Ron Suskind’s 2006 book The One Percent Doctrine.”

“When KSM was being held at a secret CIA facility in Thailand, apparently the revamped Vietnam War-era base at Udorn, according to Suskind, a message was passed to interrogators: ‘do whatever’s necessary,’” Kevin Fenton writes at History Commons. “The interrogators then told KSM ‘his children would be hurt if he didn’t cooperate. However, his response was, ’so, fine, the



reply posted on 10-6-2010 @ 08:40 AM by K J Gunderson
Originally posted by Danbones
I first heard about gannon on alex jones. you know the kidnapped child sex slave that turned out to be a gay male prostitute who secret service logs showed had been in and out of the Bush white house on overnights etc
the constantly renewed day pass reporter who had a gay male prostitute website specializing in gay military escorts.


Funny that I knew about Gannon before I even heard Alex mention it. Tell me, do you think he actually uncovered that story with his investigating skills? NOPE - HE READ IT SOMEWHERE ELSE. So, he can read. Amazing. What else can he do? Sit up? Beg?

the Texas cps pedophile scandal that was a good one too
makes you wonder


What about it was "good" exactly?

I guess you don't know any thing about residential schools do you?
I do
children in cages is minor compared to what went on there
amnesty international calls residential schools the worst genocide ever committed against children
committed by Churches paid for by tax dollars


I could care less. I presented you with a lie told by Alex and asked you to show me where to find these things. You defend that lie by changing the subject? Do you know what that is?

now you have pissed me off
you, can't even google and you are on about my spelling?


What can I not google? Where did I fail the google test?

you are a SPELL NAZI


Like I said before, I only pick on it when appropriate. In a sentence telling me all about how you are right all the time, incorrect grammar and two words spelled incorrectly go a long way to belie the sentiment of the statement. I hope you see how that works but I am willing to bet you do not even get it.

there I used my spell checker just for you


You could just stop arrogantly telling me how smart and correct you are whilst using your poor spelling and grammar. It seems simply being humble would be easier and help more but whatever.

do you use one/
why


I honestly cannot think of a reason not to. One is built in to just about any software that involves me typing words. I fail to see the point of turning it off.

cause you can't spell
donkey?


What was wrong with how I spelled donkey? I spelled it exactly like you did- correctly. Relax, you are getting heated and it is making you want to get more and more personal. Attacking me will not help. If you do not realize the inherent irony in telling people how you got where you got by being right all the time in a manner befitting a 3rd grade book report - that is not my fault. I am just pointing it out because it made me chuckle. Maybe you just need to chuckle.

I mentioned a very specific example for a reason. If you feel the need to change the subject entirely in order to defend it, I suggest you take a long look at the way you listen to Alex.

So, are you ever going to tell me how old you are, how long you have been listening? I am really just curious because after all this time listening to Alex, I have noticed a really high turnover rate in his supporters so I am curious. That is all. I am not looking for some arbitrary thing to use against you to prove he is a fraud. I only need Alex to prove Alex a fraud.






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reply posted on 10-6-2010 @ 08:43 AM by Paschar0
reply to post by JohnnyCanuck



I hear what you're saying, maybe ANGER is another emotion he's evoking


reply posted on 10-6-2010 @ 08:54 AM by K J Gunderson
Originally posted by Danbones
no body cares if i can spell the boss can't spend grammer
he's after math
I didn't pay attention to your question because it was pointless


Interesting cop-out. You do know you JUST said -

what was that question exactly? JK
I'll give it my best shot.


Only after I mention that you have to be willfully ignorant to have missed it you suddenly knew exactly what question but did not care. OK!

Love to see what kind of math that is since you cannot count or spell ads correctly. How does he know what you are even counting wrong?

Anyway...

Let me ask ONE MORE TIME because all you little Alex worshipers avoid this like the plague for some reason.

If Alex Jones is telling the truth and waking people up, why did Clinton never implement the Marshal Law he was preparing for 8 years?

If Alex Jones is telling the truth and waking people up, Why did George W. never implement Marshal Law? Why did we never get to see the inside of those FEMA camps he was sending us too?

Why is it now Obama is going to do the things Alex promise past presidents were going to do? What will you believe when Alex is wrong - AGAIN?

Do you know how long Alex has been warning us that the president is going to round us up or take away all of our freedoms? Do you know why his supporters have always just recently woken up to him?

There, now you can avoid it all over again because you do not like people correcting your spelling after you brag about how smart you think you are.


reply posted on 10-6-2010 @ 10:16 AM by JohnnyCanuck
Originally posted by Paschar0
reply to
post by JohnnyCanuck



I hear what you're saying, maybe ANGER is another emotion he's evoking


Fear + Anger = Stress -->
It refers to the consequence of the failure of an organism – human or animal – to respond appropriately to emotional or physical threats, whether actual or imagined. Stress symptoms commonly include a state of alarm and adrenaline production, short-term resistance as a coping mechanism, and exhaustion, as well as irritability, muscular tension, inability to concentrate and a variety of physiological reactions such as headache and elevated heart rate en.wikipedia.org...


Which doesn't exactly keep Joe Public at his most effective level, does it?

Hey...as far as AJ goes, fill yer boots. But I'm working the squelch on the old Bravo Sierra detector when it comes to him.


reply posted on 10-6-2010 @ 11:13 AM by Danbones
reply to post by JohnnyCanuck



yeah JC
in the heat of the moment I was swingin at the spell Nazis
I'lll apologize to you and the other people that are recommending discernment
SORRY FOLKS

PS my spell checker keeps screwing up on Canuk

JC
those are all questions you should answer your self
go to a .guv read the bills past present and future
I answered one dumb question
thats all you get for free

BTW gerald celente is internatioaly recognized as accurate his name is not alex jones



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