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UK terror threat now 'critical'

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posted on Jun, 30 2007 @ 02:37 PM
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BBC News

The UK's national terrorism threat level has been raised to "critical", Home Secretary Jacqui Smith has said.

The announcement came after a meeting of the government emergencies committee Cobra, following a burning car being driven into a Glasgow airport terminal.


Full story:
news.bbc.co.uk...

Seems Mr. Brown is taking this very seriously indeed.

Baptism of fire for the new PM, but I'm pretty sure he's a guy who can handle it.



[edit on 30/6/2007 by budski]




posted on Jun, 30 2007 @ 02:51 PM
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Originally posted by budski

Seems Mr. Brown is taking this very seriously indeed.

Baptism of fire for the new PM, but I'm pretty sure he's a guy who can handle it.



[edit on 30/6/2007 by budski]


I don't know if anyone can handle an invisible enemy that can strike at any time without warning.

*Mod Edit - Trim Those Quotes*

[edit on 6/30/07 by niteboy82]



posted on Jun, 30 2007 @ 02:54 PM
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Perhaps not - but we can try

Remember - the purpose of terrorism is to terrorise.

If we give in to it, they win



posted on Jun, 30 2007 @ 02:57 PM
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Originally posted by budski

Perhaps not - but we can try

Remember - the purpose of terrorism is to terrorise.

If we give in to it, they win


Indeed, I think the best reaction at this point is to have a big "we're not scared" rally. Also, some more unequivocal denunciations of terror tactics from the Muslim community would be helpful.



posted on Jun, 30 2007 @ 03:01 PM
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Furthermore, we need to have a united front, a rainbow coalition if you will of individuals who make it clear that these actions will not stand. The barbarically indiscriminate nature of these attacks underscores the need for solidarity. The bombs don't care who you are.



posted on Jun, 30 2007 @ 03:15 PM
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If it keeps up long enough, muslims will be put into interment camps. How long do you think terrorism will go on before it happens, and how long before the people of England will allow it to keep happening.



posted on Jun, 30 2007 @ 03:20 PM
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You know, i get this scary reminder of that terror drill that was held in USA not that long ago, about a threat originating in europe and traveling to America? Probably farfetched, but i hope it wont go that far.



posted on Jun, 30 2007 @ 04:58 PM
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Originally posted by steve99
If it keeps up long enough, muslims will be put into interment camps. How long do you think terrorism will go on before it happens, and how long before the people of England will allow it to keep happening.


Sorry mate, but I think you may be a bit wide of the mark there.

It could never happen under the human rights act.

If they are to be detained, there must be solid proof that they are involved in terrorist activities.

And if there is real proof? - Let them rot in jail, the murdering gits



posted on Jun, 30 2007 @ 05:17 PM
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Originally posted by budski

Originally posted by steve99
If it keeps up long enough, muslims will be put into interment camps. How long do you think terrorism will go on before it happens, and how long before the people of England will allow it to keep happening.


Sorry mate, but I think you may be a bit wide of the mark there.

It could never happen under the human rights act.

If they are to be detained, there must be solid proof that they are involved in terrorist activities.

And if there is real proof? - Let them rot in jail, the murdering gits


how many murderers walk the street of britain. theres plenty out there that because of there job, means they murder innocent people.

[edit on 6/30/2007 by andy1033]



posted on Jun, 30 2007 @ 05:29 PM
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Originally posted by budski
Sorry mate, but I think you may be a bit wide of the mark there.

It could never happen under the human rights act.

If they are to be detained, there must be solid proof that they are involved in terrorist activities.

And if there is real proof? - Let them rot in jail, the murdering gits


The Human Rights Act can be suspended if they declare a State of Emergency. They can do a surprisingly large amount of stuff if they do that.....



posted on Jun, 30 2007 @ 07:04 PM
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Originally posted by stumason

Originally posted by budski
Sorry mate, but I think you may be a bit wide of the mark there.

It could never happen under the human rights act.

If they are to be detained, there must be solid proof that they are involved in terrorist activities.

And if there is real proof? - Let them rot in jail, the murdering gits


The Human Rights Act can be suspended if they declare a State of Emergency. They can do a surprisingly large amount of stuff if they do that.....


Really?
Could you show me this please.


Who declares it and under which modern law that's enforceable



posted on Jun, 30 2007 @ 07:17 PM
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It's the Home Secretary that deals with it. Infinite was the one who told me about it and provided links, as I didn't believe him to begin with. U2U him and ask him about it. I'll see if I can drag up some info myself.

EDIT:

Here is one news story that mentions it:

politics.guardian.co.uk...
EDIT AGAIN:

Here is the Emergency Powers Act 1998:

www.legislationline.org...

Allows for all sorts of stuff....

[edit on 30/6/07 by stumason]



posted on Jun, 30 2007 @ 07:18 PM
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1972 Prevention of Terrorism act

Right of detention without recourse to Haebeus Corpus

enacted 1972 repealed in 1992

but still on the statue books

Lived under it and its still a possibility - also had many friends detained under it in Ireand



posted on Jun, 30 2007 @ 07:23 PM
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hmmm
salient points seem to be about an opt out clause - what's your point?

There's very little in that report that agree/disagree with - it's all a bit ambiguous



posted on Jun, 30 2007 @ 07:33 PM
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Originally posted by budski
hmmm
salient points seem to be about an opt out clause - what's your point?

There's very little in that report that agree/disagree with - it's all a bit ambiguous


Point being that the Human rights Act isn't worth the paper it's written on if a State of Emergency is declared.

And of course it's ambiguous. Makes it easier to do what you like then!



posted on Jun, 30 2007 @ 07:37 PM
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Originally posted by stumason

Originally posted by budski
hmmm
salient points seem to be about an opt out clause - what's your point?

There's very little in that report that agree/disagree with - it's all a bit ambiguous


Point being that the Human rights Act isn't worth the paper it's written on if a State of Emergency is declared.

And of course it's ambiguous. Makes it easier to do what you like then!


That's the point I was making - ambiguity is a powerful political weapon.

There should be a law against that



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