Car On Fire Driven Into Glasgow Airport Terminal

Originally posted by kickoutthejams
Gordon didn't look too good did he? Being PM certainly took it's toll on Blair I wonder if Gordon can hack it. I mean he takes over and all hell breaks loose!

Difference between Blair and Brown.

Brown acts like a Prime Minister, allowing his ministers to get on with it. he only gets involved when things get serious (like today)

but!!! BACK TO THE SUBJECT!!

I reckon, the army will be protecting the Diana concert tomorrow because of William and Harry.

Security will get much bigger on July 7th anniversary

A Car fire at Heathrow is not unusual considering the thousands of cars parked in or around the airport, in surrounding carparks and associated Hotels with their massive parking.

Well what about this, i know the threat has been raised, but more to come imminently?

The country is now at its highest threat level and means further attacks are expected "imminently".

Expected?, or just fear mongering?
IS there more to this story than we are being shown??

Link.

Originally posted by infinite
Difference between Blair and Brown.

Brown acts like a Prime Minister, allowing his ministers to get on with it. he only gets involved when things get serious (like today)

but!!! BACK TO THE SUBJECT!!

I reckon, the army will be protecting the Diana concert tomorrow because of William and Harry.

Security will get much bigger on July 7th anniversary

Oh for sure! This week will be 24/7 vigilance. Every intelligence agent and copper will be called in right now and it should last for the next week at least, and I wouldn't be surprised to see troops at the concert tomorrow. That is the wise move. Is it on TV btw?

And I have yet to see any evidence that this was nothing but a very unfortunate accident.

Originally posted by Denied
Well what about this, i know the threat has been raised, but more to come imminently?

The country is now at its highest threat level and means further attacks are expected "imminently".

Expected?, or just fear mongering?
IS there more to this story than we are being shown??

Link.

Ahh that's part of the fun of watching Sky News - who knows?! Their sources say another attack IS imminent but those sources could be from Whitehall, experts in the field who have their own sources, or someone standing on the corner of the street

Jesting aside, Sky News do tend to take the worst scenario and splash it all over the screen but that's not to say more bad stuff won't happen at any time.

CNN is reporting it and has confirmed that this is linked to the diffused car bombs in London earlier this week. One of the drivers has died en route to hospital. The cars in the london attempt were originally stolen from Glascow as well. Sending a message to the new Prime Minister, who is Scottish. No word on whether it is Al Queda or Al Queda-inspired or not yet.

Conspiracy theorists if you want something to start fuelling debate, I'll just throw out that if the government did it, it could have been to interfere with both the gay pride parade and princess diana memorial thing this weekend.

Americans will likely want to be careful with July 4th parades and fireworks celebrations where lots of people are all packed together.

[edit on 6/30/2007 by Yarcofin]

Originally posted by stumason

Honestly, these "Jihadists" couldn't detonate a bomb in a bomb making factory....

agrreed if you are talking about th few in the past few days but I am sure others in London from 7/7 would disagree as would many Iraqi citizens when it comes to other jihadists

Trans-national terrorism really is a global issue. Extremist groups which are not loyal to any soverign government have a lot of power to influence people in other countries through the internet and toehr mass media outlets. This is a problem that's only going to get worse until we learn how to deal with it on many different levels, each at the same time.

Here's what the AP has said so far:

Flaming SUV Rams U.K. Airport; 2 Arrests

By IAN STEWART
Associated Press Writer

GLASGOW, Scotland (AP) -- Two men rammed a flaming Jeep Cherokee into the main terminal of Glasgow airport Saturday, crashing into the glass doors at the entrance in what appeared to be the third attempted terror attack on Britain in two days, witnesses said.

Hours later, Britain raised its security alert to "critical" - the highest level possible and an indication that terrorist attacks are imminent. U.S. airports increased safety precautions.

Both suspects were arrested at the Glasgow airport, Scotland's largest. One, his body engulfed in flames as police pulled him from the vehicle, was hospitalized.

There were no reports of injuries but the airport was evacuated and all flights suspended, a day after British police thwarted a plot to bomb central London, discovering two cars abandoned with loads of gasoline, gas canisters and nails. Hundreds fled screaming from the terminal as one of the men poured gasoline over the Jeep and tried to force it further inside the terminal, one witness said.

"One has to conclude ... these are linked," Dame Pauline Neville-Jones, former head of Britain's joint intelligence committee, told Sky News. "This is a very young government, and we may yet see further attacks."

Britain's prime minister, Gordon Brown, a Scot who took office only Wednesday, held a meeting of the government crisis committee, Downing Street said.

A British government security official said the incident was being treated as "possibly terrorist related at this stage." The official spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the information.

Security officials had no direct intelligence linking the incident to the thwarted plot to bomb London but "are keeping an open mind," the official said.

Home Secretary Jacqui Smith said the security would be raised to critical for the first time since August 2006, when authorities uncovered a plot to blow up several trans-Atlantic flights.

"This is in response to the events of the last 48 hours," Smith said in a statement.

President Bush's spokesman, Tony Snow, said some airports in the United States would tighten security in response to the events in Britain but the terror alert status would not change.

"The most you're going to see right now is some inconvenience - some increased inconvenience of airline passengers, more likely at large airports than small," Snow said.

In Glasgow, the green SUV barreled toward the building shortly after 3 p.m., hitting security barriers before crashing into the glass doors, witnesses said. Two men were in the burning vehicle, one of them engulfed in flames, they said.

"The car came speeding past at about 30 mph. It was approaching the building quickly," said Scott Leeson, who was nearby. "Then the driver swerved the car around so he could ram straight in to the door. He must have been trying to smash straight through."

Lynsey McBean, who was at the terminal, said one of the men took out a plastic gasoline canister and poured its contents under the car. "He then set light to it," said McBean, 26, from Erskine, Scotland. She said the Jeep struck the front door but got jammed.

"They were obviously trying to get it further inside the airport as the wheels were spinning and smoke was coming from them," she said.

Two men were arrested, and one of whom was taken to the hospital, Strathclyde Police spokeswoman Lisa O'Neil said in Glasgow. Police said the Royal Alexandra Hospital, in neighboring Paisley, was evacuated after the suspect arrived.

The car hit the building at an angle and poked into the terminal, directly in front of check-in desks, where dozens of passengers were lined up to check in for flights, police said.

Flames and black smoke rose from the vehicle outside the main entrance. Police said it was unclear if anyone was injured. Other passengers were stranded, with at least one airplane grounded on the runway, the BBC said.

Bush was being keep abreast of the events in London and Scotland.

"We're in contact with British authorities on the matter," said Gordon Johndroe, a spokesman for the National Security Council.

The crash at Glasgow airport comes exactly a week before the second anniversary of the July 7 bombings that killed 52 people.

Leeson said bollards - security posts outside the entrance - stopped the driver from barreling into the bustling terminal at Glasgow's airport.

"He's trying to get through the main door frame but the bollards have stopped him from going through. If he'd got through, he'd have killed hundreds, obviously," he said.

Two men - one of them engulfed in flames - were in the SUV, witnesses said.

Helen Boaden, a BBC News executive who was at the airport at time, said police "wrestled him to the ground - the fire was burning through his clothes - and finally put him out with a fire extinguisher."

In the London attempt, one car was abandoned outside a nightclub on Haymarket, a busy street of shops, clubs, theaters and restaurants just yards from Trafalgar Square and Piccadilly Circus.

The other had been towed after being parked illegally on a nearby street and was discovered in an impound lot about a mile away near Hyde Park.

Deputy Assistant Commissioner Peter Clarke, the Metropolitan Police anti-terrorism chief, said the two devices could have caused "significant injury or loss of life."

"London on the Edge" said the front-page headline in The Independent newspaper while the Daily Mail wondered, "Where's the Next Bomb?"

Mayor Ken Livingstone urged Londoners to remain vigilant.

"The discovery of two potential car bombs in central London, with those responsible still at large, means we face a very real threat of terrorist attack at this moment in time," he said.

The Times newspaper reported that police distributed a document to nightclubs two weeks ago warning of the threat from "vehicle-borne explosive devices" - car bombs. The document, prepared by the National Counterterrorism Security Office, took the form of general counterterrorism advice for British clubs.

Intelligence officials were examining a post to an Islamist Web site - hours before the cars were found - that suggested Britain would be attacked for awarding a knighthood to the novelist Salman Rushdie and for intervening in Muslim countries.

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Let's be clear about what we've just seen here. This was a local effort, undertaken with what was on hand. Guns and explosives are hard to come by in Britain, so the terrorists made due with what they had. Cearly, there were more efficient ways for them to do what they did, so we can all be glad that they weren't so bright.

the long-term problem is that eventually, some smart guy is going to get it right, and when he/she does...they'll be copied. This is something that every Western government needs to be paying attention to. No matter what country you live where these extremists or wanna-be's can be found...this is as real as it gets.

[edit on 30-6-2007 by Justin Oldham]

Strathclyde police are giving a press conference at 21:30 (20 minutes time)

Roads around Birmingham airport have been closed as a precaution

[edit on 30/6/2007 by Muppetus Galacticus]

Originally posted by Denied
Expected?, or just fear mongering?

i think the intelligence are unsure and have to play safe.

according to skynews, their sources reckon more are imminent

Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by Muppetus Galacticus
Sky Sources: High probability of further attacks

NO WAY will ya'll be able to pull off the Princess Di concerts, etc etc.
Not with all this happening ....

God were british dont you know. We can wear a top hat full 3 peice suite and overcoat whilst touring the Raj in 120 F and hunting tigers at the same time.

When we were in WW2 my grandparents were bombed to hell and back, we had rationing and were melting down our fences and prams and kettles to amke the tanks that the rest of the world wouldnt suppy till a few years before the end. We all had high tea and scones every afternoon as the bombs fell not much china was chipped or tea spilt.

Goddamn look at my passport out of the way Im a british citizen, its only a flesh wound I need to get to the cricket club. Jeeves pick my fingers up of the ground dear man and put them in the cool box till after the match.

Tell the Zulus that too:

139 British troops against about 4,500 Zulus

Guess who won? and we were having tea and cricket within 1 hour of the end of the battle.
Zulu British Battle

LOL all in jest with tongue in cheek but you would be suprised.

WE ARE NOT AFRAID OR DETERRED. Short of god himself invading Britain WE SHALL NEVER BE DEFEATED.

The Romans failed, Normans, Greeks, Vandals, Vikings, French, Spanish, Portuguease, Italians, Dutch, Germans etc etc etc.

Long Live the british way of life, we dont need to imagine 1000 virgins in heavan and blow ourselves up for it. We have heavan on earth in Britain, and we dont mind blowing ourselves up however only for the Queen, and only if its queensbury rules, not like these Peasant pretend Warriors

Kind Regards Old Chap

LordElf

(I am not nationolistic and despice much that the UK has done for empire etc, but I thought some humour and a rallying call against these scum is in order eh? You agree of course you do im British im right, have a jolly good day old chap.... tallyho!)

[edit on 30-6-2007 by MischeviousElf]

Wow, look at this image...


Looks like things have begun?
Let the time of change begin...

Originally posted by PsykoOps
And I have yet to see any evidence that this was nothing but a very unfortunate accident.

Yeah right so the one individual shouting allah alllah as hitnessed by the bagage handler should also be assumed to be catholic? Odd you appear to be one of the very few feeling that way.

Originally posted by Fowl Play
Wow, look at this image...

Looks like things have begun?
Let the time of change begin...

The ground appears wet in this pic. Did it rain there? If so, could the wet pavement been a reason the vehicle did not make it inside as planned?

So what's the evidence of this being a intendet terrorist attempt? I've seen none to that effect. Even if there were explosives in the car did anyone stop to think that maybe the guys in the car were the targets and victims of a car bomb?

Originally posted by ninthaxis
The ground appears wet in this pic. Did it rain there? If so, could the wet pavement been a reason the vehicle did not make it inside as planned?

i have a theory,

the car was on fire and water helps to put it out.

Originally posted by PsykoOps
So what's the evidence of this being a intendet terrorist attempt? I've seen none to that effect. Even if there were explosives in the car did anyone stop to think that maybe the guys in the car were the targets and victims of a car bomb?

See my post above. Here is the reference:

www.cnn.com...

To be honest, this really doesn't seem like all that big of a deal to me though. It's just one burning car that went barely into one building. Not like they took down a plane with hundreds of people, or blew up a big stadium or something. You hear about the mob doing carbombings like this all the time and it's never taken as a terror threat.

Feels like this is just the precursor to something much, much bigger. The ATS side of me is assuming 7/7/07.

[edit on 6/30/2007 by Yarcofin]

i Didn't see any evidence of water spraying from hoses, which is why i asked. And i see the windshield wipers are up on the cars.

[edit on 30-6-2007 by ninthaxis]

Just been declared a terrorist attack.

First Minister of Scotland.