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Topic started on 29-6-2007 @ 04:44 PM by renshin

Mysterious clouds spray sky with light.


www.msnbc.msn.com
A new NASA satellite has recorded the first detailed images from space of a mysterious type of cloud called “night-shining” or “noctilucent."

The clouds are on the move, brightening and creeping out of polar regions, and researchers don't know why.
(visit the link for the full news article)



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[edit on 30-6-2007 by DontTreadOnMe]


reply posted on 29-6-2007 @ 09:09 PM by Stale Cracker
Maybe the Aluminum oxide from chemtrails has something to do with it? (slips on flame resistant trousers)...

Perhaps they are finally cycling down from the poles after 7+ years of intesnse spraying. Eventually you should saturate the atmosphere... Maybe the atmosphere is finally re-circulating some of its input? It seems locally they havn't been spraying as much as usual for the last 7 years. The last chemtrail post I saw was a guy from AZ saying he's noticed a decline in activity. I've also noticed a decrease in Central PA, USA)

I'm no meteorologist though. Perhaps Essan (I know he hates chemtrails..) could help us with the logistics of aerosol distribution over time. How long would it take for an aerosol injected into the atmosphere at typical chemtrail altitudes to be recirculated from the poles?


I thought I remember a news clip of the "ozone hole" stabalizing:

Having reached nearly three times the size of the United States, the ozone hole over Antarctica appears to be slowing down, possibly reversing its growth rate, according to scientists at New Zealand's National Institute of Water and Atmospheric Research (NIWAR). The hole in the ozone layer, a region of the Earth's stratosphere that contains relatively high levels of the toxic gas and is about 12-30 miles high, forms each year during the Antarctic spring. Last September, the ozone hole reached its maximum size of about 10 million squaremiles, down by about 1.6 million square miles from its peak size in September 2000.
link here

Anyone else notice that chemtrail activity was first noticed around 2000, The first year after the hole stabalized? "The chemtrail theory apparently first achieved prominence in mid-to-late 1990s" from here

Maybe they achieved one of their four goals (damn where is that old thread) of creating a synthetic sunscreen right away. If that is the limiting factor I'd expect them to keep "spraying" this into the atmosphere until some kind of feed-back was observed. Hence the drop-off in spray activity this year, perhaps accounting for the bizarre polar reflective clouds now observed... The atmosphere has reached saturation point.



[edit on 29-6-2007 by Stale Cracker]


reply posted on 30-6-2007 @ 01:11 AM by yuefo
Originally posted by theindependentjournal
HAARP Info


Don't know if it's true, but according to Dan Eden, the installation pictured on that website is a dumbed down version of the real array. His story is interesting either way: viewzone.com...


reply posted on 30-6-2007 @ 02:51 AM by loam
Ok, the more I research this, the more nervous it makes me.

According to this 2003 article published by NASA:





Strange Clouds

"Noctilucent clouds are a relatively new phenomenon," says Gary Thomas, a professor at the University of Colorado who studies NLCs. "They were first seen in 1885" about two years after the powerful eruption of Krakatoa hurled plumes of volcanic ash as much as 80 km high in Earth's atmosphere.

Ash from the Indonesian volcano caused such splendid sunsets worldwide that evening sky watching became a popular past time. One sky watcher in particular, a German named T.W. Backhouse who is often credited with the discovery of noctilucent clouds, noticed something odd. He stayed outside after the sun had set and, on some nights, saw wispy filaments glowing electric blue against the black sky. Scientists of the day figured they were some curious manifestation of volcanic ash.

Eventually the ash settled and the vivid sunsets of Krakatoa faded. Yet the noctilucent clouds remained. "It's puzzling," says Thomas. "Noctilucent clouds have not only persisted, but also spread." A century ago the clouds were confined to latitudes above 50o; you had to go to places like Scandinavia, Russia and Britain to see them. In recent years they have been sighted as far south as Utah and Colorado.

More...



While the article discusses possible sources of particulate matter necessary for the cloud formations, it continues:



One reason for the recent spread of noctilucent clouds might be global warming. "Extreme cold is required to form ice in a dry environment like the mesosphere," says Thomas. Ironically, global warming helps. While greenhouse gases warm Earth's surface, they actually lower temperatures in the high atmosphere. Thomas notes that noctilucent clouds were first spotted during the Industrial Revolution--a time of rising greenhouse gas production.



Then, I read this article published less than a year ago:





Mars Clouds Higher Than Any On Earth

Mars is home to the highest clouds ever discovered above the surface of a planet, astronomers said today.

...

The surprising clouds are most likely made of carbon dioxide, researchers said. There were detected with a camera that senses ultraviolet and infrared light, so there is no conventional picture of them.

...they look similar to the mesospheric clouds, also known as noctilucent clouds on Earth, which occur about 50 miles (80 kilometers) above our planet.



Unsettling coincidence, isn't it?

Now read this 2004 study from NASA:



The UARS HALOE experiment has provided nearly 12 years (1991-2003) of retrieved temperature versus pressure profiles T(p) from about 5 hPa to just above 0.01 hPa. By applying multiple linear regression (MLR) analysis techniques to its zonally-averaged, temperature time series at specific pressure levels and latitudes, we are finding significant interannual (IA) and solar cycle (SC) terms in the presence of larger-amplitude, seasonal cycle terms. In addition, we note that the search for a cooling trend depends critically on a proper accounting for the weaker amplitude IA and SC terms. After these weaker terms have been considered, we have occasionally found a significant cooling trend of about 0.9 to 1.4 K per decade in the low to middle mesosphere-most notably at 20S latitude.

Link.

Radiative models of the middle atmosphere
indicate that the largest temperature response
due to steadily increasing amounts of
atmospheric CO2 should occur at pressurealtitudes
between 1 and 0.1 hPa (about 48 to 64
km) and be of the order of –0.5 to –0.6 K/decade
on a pressure surface (e.g., Akmaev and
Fomichev, 2000)...

Based on our findings to date, it is concluded
that a significant cooling trend due to increasing
greenhouse gases is being found in the lower
and middle mesosphere, as predicted...


.pdf



I'm gonna go take a walk.

It's probably nothing...

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