His son is three.

I don't know what was going on but Mitch was seeing something and trying very hard to tell his daddy.

Mitch seems like a very bright little boy I must say. When you said he told you the witch was on the side of the road throwing fireballs well that isn't something I would think a three year old would just put together. It seems that he enjoys these trips the two of you take, your a good daddy.

Hi all,

I spoke with my son a few minutes ago and I am writing this to keep it fresh in my mind.

He was kinda aggravated, that I had asked him about the video again. He said "Dad, we just talked about that!!! This is the 2nd time now Dad." I guess I should lay off on the drill.

I asked what the witch eyes color. He simply stated "black".

I asked if the witch was good or bad, he simply stated "I was scared a little bit, but I don't think she was good one".

I asked is the witch was a he or she, he said once again it was a "she".

I asked if the witch, was wearing a hat, he said "Nope no hat".

I asked about the fireballs again. I asked if she was throwing at you, me or both of us. He said "both".

I asked if he had seen her before or after that day. He said he "thinks" he saw her at the Colorado river [We go fishing quite a bit at the Colorado (AZ/CA border)]. I asked him which time it was, he said "Not the time we caught the big catfish, the time we caught bass.

Truth be told, we have fished for catfish for the last 3 months (perfect time as it's getting smoking hot at the Colorado), but there was one evening (maybe 3 or 4 weeks ago - no date and no video) where we nailed some small mouth bass on small niblets of shrimp [which are great for the Colorado kitties where we fish (it's natural - crawdad), himself too.

To me, something went down that day (on the 4x4). I have no idea what it was, and I probably don't want too, to be honest. I really didn't listen at the time since I was caught up in the trail. I hope what he says about the river is imagination. It's really starting to make me worry.

Take care, and good night.



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[edit on 7/1/2007 by Stockburn]

I really wouldn't worry too much about your son, my friend's brother when he was about your sons age was too scared to go in their garden because he was convinced there was a giant purple dinosaur living at the bottom of it. I myself used to talk to 'The lady in the wall' who was also called Cathleen, and try as I might I never found anyone connected to the Pub where I lived with that name!

I know your worried, but I'd leave it for a while and let him do any more talking about the witch. If you talk about it more, he may start to think of it as a game and start talking about her more, so give him time to forget, and if he brings it up again out of the blue, then there maybe something more to it!

I think you did good and so did your son.

I would drop it now because he is a smart one. He has a good memory and I think if anything like this happens again he might mention it to you.

Make sure you listen next time and ask him to point and just see if you see anything. (with camera in hand of course) heck give the camera to your son and let him aim it, he did a great job in the car when you told him to.

My best to you and Mitch

stay closer with your son, ask him more questions if your mind runs rapid as he will listen, but this is NOTHING.

seriously, i'll claim i'm psychic or i'll ask my cat who is a grey in disguise and from mars, he says it's nothing.

seriously. your cool, don't freak out, kids do these things all the time, and it's happening more and more as we are able to communicate such small implications of our sons imaginations these days.
-meow.
-fdisc0

From a reverse perspective, has anything untoward happened BEFORE this event?

It seems given what your son said, that she might be attracted to him in some way (not in a hot sexy nekkid eeeevil witch sort of way), perhaps, given that children are always so hyped, they can feed of the mental energy or vitality (psychic vampire).

The 'witch' from a reference of the stills someone posted is the one or two visible 'black' floating objects near the left hand side in those frames they are in yes?

It sometimes looks like the top of some sort of palm, and other times looks like it has arms and perhaps some sort of cloak (Harry Potter Dementor/LoTR Wraith) to me, but who knows.

One thing I will say is its probably best to just ask him to let you know if weird # hits the fan in the future than going back over the issue, because he does seem remarkably intelligent for his age and people with a good imagination are always more likely to be scared of the weird than people who can't imagine anything unpleasant.

You could ask him where he learnt the words witch and fireball though, that might give you a clue as to what he's watched about witches and some visual reference as to what he classifies as a 'witch'.

To me it seem to be nothing than a bulb.

Originally posted by FudgeStix

Originally posted by Islamorada

Trying to get him to stop this! I said 'just growl like a lion when you say no and it will sound like that boy' It doesnt... not even close. Its as though his vocal chords arent even developed enough to get out that level of sound.

Everyones voices are different, and I've heard toddlers in a tantrum mimic that exact 'no'. What I do find intresting is how angry/frightened he is when you mention going up that hill - although maybe he was tired/bored? Kids do weird stuff when their trying to entertain themselves.

Intresting thread either way, nice to have a vid that isn't some blurry half on/half off shot of a 'ghost' whilst the person filming has a fit.

Hope we can come to some form of conclusion on this one!

In response to this post I have two comments:

1: If a noise like that came from my 3 yr old, Id have that checked!

2: If my child had tantrums to the point he got upset enough to make such a horrid sound, I would too have that checked. I would also check myself too because if my child acted like that I would need checked for I wouldnt be doing my job very well.

That's wrong to call someone out on their parenting. Just plain dirty.

On topic: If my son was talking like that, I probably would have stopped and listened to him at the time...but then again you were doin' some serious drivin' which I can say from experience takes alot of concentration.

Here's an idea. Take him back to the spot if possible at any point, but let him know you're taking him back there for the sole reason of trying to get another "witch" experience. Just go out like normal, just drive, you hear him talking about something out of the norm, stop, look and start asking questions. Though it is a fairly scary thing to do, it's good to see if he was just being a kid or if something was actually out there.

Of course you could also tell him that if he ever sees the "witch" again to tell you immediately.

That's all I can offer, I've watched the video and your son sounds a bit possessed. That's a bad statement, sorry, but it's how it sounded.

Good luck and take care my man.

Stockburn... the above poster handled you for me so I have nothing left to say. Im not here to entertain you and I certainly dont feel the need to defend *my* parenting, however, you seem rather touchy about the subject.

You havent even bothered to add anything to this discussion AT ALL, only addressed me. Get over your obsession and get on topic.

Originally posted by Islamorada
Stockburn... the above poster handled you for me so I have nothing left to say. Im not here to entertain you and I certainly dont feel the need to defend *my* parenting, however, you seem rather touchy about the subject.

You havent even bothered to add anything to this discussion AT ALL, only addressed me. Get over your obsession and get on topic.

Hmmm. How does one address this without being a real jerk? Hmmm. I completely understand by even posting here or better yet, providing video there can and will be comments that might be thrown here or there.

With that said,

If I am not mistaken. You called me out, and I quote you:

Begin Quote:

In response to this post I have two comments:

1: If a noise like that came from my 3 yr old, Id have that checked!

2: If my child had tantrums to the point he got upset enough to make such a horrid sound, I would too have that checked. I would also check myself too because if my child acted like that I would need checked for I wouldnt be doing my job very well.

End Quote:

If that isn't a call to war I have no idea what is. BTW, it is in my opinion, the poster just before you (Echo3Foxtrot), was referring to you.

To address adding to the topic? I created this thread. , Surely you know that? You don't think I added enough content (video) and side bar comments?

I can see there is no point in jousting with you. I however, do NOT like the attitude of "Holier than thou". In my previous post, I almost succumbed to it, well heck, maybe I did.

Bid us wacks good luck.

P.S. My obsession? Please enlighten me.



[edit on 7/7/2007 by Stockburn]

Again dude, this is YOUR thread... make it about YOU. Not me.

Odd duck, to say the least. hehe

Was a good read

Your son is brave, the way he handles himself.
But still not comfortable with the memory.
So unless it happens again, it would be good to let this subjet slide.

I had friends from my childhood who saw one or two things, but it was only a passing experience.

stock...I think your son is just relaying some scenes he picked up from The Wizard of Oz. There was a wicked witch of the east, and one from the west.
In one scene, she lobbed a fireball at the scarecrow, hence Mitchell's "throwing fireballs" comment.

He's a neat kid, and you're a good dad for taking him on outings like that. I
guarantee it's a big adventure for him. The desert is such a neat place.

Thought I'd share these words I saw in a children's hospital. It's a bit corny, but it still moved me.

A child's tears are bitter...sweeten them.
A child's thoughts are deep...quiet them.
A child's grief is heavy... lighten it.
A child's heart is soft... do not harden it.

Your son often says in the video(where you completely ignore him) "Can you hear her" something something, "thats why shes coming."

He says can you hear her a least 5-6 times.

You son might be a "special" child. He very well may posses a supernatural gift.

Just my thoughts.

I thought it was creepy, I wished you would have addressed your son when this happened, oh well.

hi stockburn,
cool thread...

your son is genuine in what he says...he is also very persistant.

Im a parent and my daughter talks a million miles an hour..and sometimes you let things slide by..otherwise if we listened to every story they had to tell, we'd be sitting there til their 16th birthdays...
But children are amazing arent they??

well i cant remember which frame of the footage but I and two other people in my house clearly see something on the left just slightly off camera...its two things actually...

One second its on camera and as fast as it appeared, it also disappeared!

But that is my opinion..not to be confused with anyone elses

cheers

Accidently double posted...
Im sorry everyone

[edit on 9-7-2007 by hot_acacia]

I didn't see or hear anything out of the ordinary on this one. To me, that was just young kid being a young kid. What I DID see in this video is a DAD being a DAD, kudos to you for taking your child on an adventure like this.

CENSORED!!!!!!!!!








[edit on 9-7-2007 by Cibai]