Originally posted by observe50
I trust in what John has to say because of his knowledge of flying, and if the time seems good to him then to me the trip was
Thanks observe50. What was hoaxed about the Apollo Mission is the method of propulsion they used to get the Lunar Lander from 60 mile Lunar orbit down
to the moon and then back again. They say they used a rocket engine and used about 22,000 pounds of fuel.
If I am correct about the moons gravity being 64% that of earths there is no way they performed that feat with 22,000 pounds of fuel. They would have
needed much more than that.
There are videos on the internet of test firings of that rocket. The power demonstrated is awesome. But that is not the rocket or the power that was
used for landing. During the landing there is a video where you can see the ground and there is no huge cloud of dust like there should have been.
There should have been dust as far as the eye could see. Plus there was no dust on the landing pods. That would have been impossible.
Also the video of the takeoff with a little bit of debris flying outward is unrealistic. Whether or not there was no air on the moon there should have
been a massive display of thrust.
No. If the lunar lander landed on the moon and I am pretty sure it did in all Apollo missions except 11 and 13 then I believe it used an anti-gravity
In the case of 13, of course they looped around the moon and came back to earth because of other difficulties,
In the case of Apollo 11 I am not totally sure they landed. For one reason, the S-Band communication which allowed Michael Collins who was in the CSM
to listen to Armstrong and Aldrin in the lunar lander was intentionally disabled. Collins heard very few, if any, transmissions from the time the
Lunar Lander began its alleged landing on the moon until its approach back to the CSM.
In the Apollo 11 debriefing, NASA Mission Reports Volume 2 page 97 (11.10 Monitoring Lunar Activity) Collins had this to say, "There was some
difficulty with the ground S-band relay. The preflight agreement was that all my transmissions would be relayed to the LM, and all the LM
transmissions would be relayed to me unless that mode of operation, because of systems failure or other problems became too cluttered. At this time,
the ground was free to amputate that relay mode. In flight, it didn’t work out that way. The relay was rarely enabled. I gather that this was
because there was a ground switching problem. I would have preferred to be receiving continuous S-band (communications to and from) the LM and I felt
somewhat cut out of the loop, although it was not a safety problem. I felt out of the loop during the extended periods of time when the relay was not
So whatever did or did not happen on the moon; whether the Lunar Lander ever did really land or whether or not a different propulsion system was used,
Michael Collins in the CSM was not privy to that information. Nor was Michael Collins privy to Neil Armstrong’s comments about the boulder field he
saw from 500 feet that caused him to overfly the primary landing area by several miles. In fact, according to those who have had private
conversations with Armstrong, he overflew the primary landing site not because of a ‘boulder field’, but because there were 2 huge saucers parked
There was little or no information ever exchanged between all of the Apollo crews. As a matter of fact in his book, “Two Sides of the Moon”,
(Copyright 2004 by David Scott and Alexei Leonov Thomas Browne Books) David Scott (Apollo 15) says, “There never has been a reunion of all 12 men
who walked on the moon, so we have not had a chance to sit around and discuss such matters as how our experiences on the lunar surface affected us
differently.” Not to mention what the heck happened up there and what everybody saw.
You can be darn sure that NASA didn’t want the Apollo crews exchanging information.
There was a reason for that 21 days ‘isolation’ period and it didn’t have anything to do with possible infectious germs. It was to be sure that
the Apollo crews knew what they saw and when they saw it. It was to be sure that the Apollo crews knew that the daytime sky was black and that the
gravity on the moon was 1/6th that of earth. And it was to be sure that the Apollo crews knew that they didn’t see any cities, structures,
constructs, towers, lights or anything else on the moon except gray dirt.
And it was to make darn sure that if any of them made the slightest little slip that the consequences would be severe.