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posted on Jan, 8 2004 @ 07:27 PM
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Where does the devil live? Since the Creator is ALL-FORGIVING, then there should be no hell, correct? When you die, you view your entire life and pretty much judge yourself, it's not like the misconception of the Creator judging (sp?) you, that goes against His ways. In saying that, then that means there should be no devil or Satan. Is this correct? Comments would be appreciated.


[Edited on 9-1-2004 by TheCatalyst]

[Edited on 9-1-2004 by TheCatalyst]




posted on Jan, 14 2004 @ 02:48 AM
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all forgiving implies that u ask for forgivness...wich satan never has for trying to overthrow hevan so he was not forgivin and burns in a lake of fire



posted on Jan, 17 2004 @ 01:05 PM
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I thought that ALL-FORGIVING means that the Creator is ALL-FORGIVING, meaning he forgives even the most evil person in the world.



posted on Jan, 17 2004 @ 01:14 PM
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Where (in the Bible) does it say specifically that God is "ALL-FORGIVING"?? The Lord's Prayer specifically says "...and forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us..."

A prerequisite for forgiveness is the desire to be forgiven, AND the demonstration of forgiveness to others. . In order to desire forgiveness, you need to first believe you did something wrong. The Devil thinks he is right, and entitled to the stature of God, and therefore requires NO forgiveness, and therefore has no desire to be forgiven.

And when was the last time that the Devil forgave someone????? If He ever did, he would reinforce that forgiveness from the lake of fire was possible and attainable, and therefore set a dangerous and unreversable precedent. Hell would eventually be empty.



posted on Jan, 17 2004 @ 02:31 PM
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I think Hell doesnt exist in the first place if you dont believe in it. I personally wouldnt like God judging me any more than any other regular person.



posted on Jan, 17 2004 @ 02:38 PM
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Satan has dominion up to the 3rd heaven, and currently is the ruler of this world. Hell was originally created just for him and the rebel angels



posted on Jan, 17 2004 @ 02:45 PM
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Originally posted by TheCatalyst
Where does the devil live?

[Edited on 9-1-2004 by TheCatalyst]

[Edited on 9-1-2004 by TheCatalyst]


He'll be on the next season of MTV's "Cribs" showcasing his indoor/underground pool of fire, new rides with the spinning flame rims, and bling blin'n diamond studded fang caps.



posted on Jan, 17 2004 @ 02:48 PM
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My brother-in-law is a babtist preacher and he says the devil lives in los angles......no kidding



posted on Jan, 17 2004 @ 03:15 PM
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i thought the devil lived in that big white house up on the hill...

oh wait



*Note:I am not anti-bush, nor am I pro-bush. I am anti-lies. so i am anti-everyone that lies. has Bush lied? i am not in the know. so i can not be anti-someone, unless i know they lied. but how would i know? if someone says he is lying, that person may in fact be lying. so therefore, i conclude that you can not trust anyone and mike patton is right, "live form new york, it's saturday night."



posted on Jan, 18 2004 @ 04:06 PM
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Originally posted by DiabolusKlown

Originally posted by TheCatalyst
Where does the devil live?

[Edited on 9-1-2004 by TheCatalyst]

[Edited on 9-1-2004 by TheCatalyst]


He'll be on the next season of MTV's "Cribs" showcasing his indoor/underground pool of fire, new rides with the spinning flame rims, and bling blin'n diamond studded fang caps.

I guess you sort of caught on. Read the title of the post.



posted on Jan, 18 2004 @ 04:09 PM
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The devil/satan is all physicality of the universe.

Live=evil.

The darkside worships physicality where it rules and wishes to remain and build up such that it can storm the heavens in a titanic battle for supremacy.

It is doomed from inception such a battle.

Satan is an idea a concept and it manifests itself when enough energy is invested to effect its creation.



posted on Jan, 18 2004 @ 09:02 PM
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actual, i think one creature is both, God ans Satan, like in humans we can be evil we can be Good



posted on Jan, 19 2004 @ 04:31 PM
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Originally posted by CyberGhost
actual, i think one creature is both, God ans Satan, like in humans we can be evil we can be Good

Something like Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde.



posted on Jan, 21 2004 @ 08:43 AM
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Originally posted by TheCatalyst
Where does the devil live?


He has his throne in the greatest library of the Earth. He always lived in libraries when he isn't "travelling around" on the Earth with his deceitful accusations written down in ancient and not so ancient scrolls, flying through the air as radio sines, hanging on poles and false crosses in the form of electricity cables, network and phone cables. Well I have had enough of him. He will be cast down to the ground all over the world. Every single cable will be buried down, the ancient books and scrolls will be locked up in underground vaults until a millennium has come and gone. Then we will yet again see him on the surface and witness how his works makes the humans' evil thoughts and actions rise in attempts to wage war against the Elect and even God and his Annointed.

Blessings,
Mikromarius

[Edited on 21-1-2004 by mikromarius]



posted on Jan, 21 2004 @ 08:49 AM
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I thought the devil lived in that big white house up on the hill...






posted on Jan, 21 2004 @ 09:47 AM
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Originally posted by Gazrok

I thought the devil lived in that big white house up on the hill...





Hehe. That made my day.....

Blessings,
Mikromarius



posted on Jan, 21 2004 @ 10:21 AM
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Originally posted by CyberGhost
actual, i think one creature is both, God ans Satan, like in humans we can be evil we can be Good


You're not so far off topic as many people may think. For both good and evil comes from God. For God is Love, and when God is hurt, he can become quite wicked in the eyes of men. But this is what makes God complete and the only entity which can ever be called truely good. There are examples from the Bible where God orders his Angel out to be a satan against certain humans. But this is where our transliterations fall short, for satan is a noun in Hebrew which can mean a bunch of things, but basically it means enemy, adversary or accuser. You can say that a DA or an SA is a satan without leaving the facts. You can also say the police are satans. It's their job and how they work. They serve lie uppon lie and accuse you of things you may not have done or even thought about doing, but it is up to you to proove your innocense. There lives a serpent in every law which has been written. It is how we inforce our laws. It is what we have. What we are left with. We have few other alternatives. But this will change. I don't know quite how, but it will soon change. But there will first come a period when new inventions will be tested out I guess, and hopefully be left for a new law principle which is more like a philosophy than a law. Atleast that is my hope. The people will perhaps be given challenges to solve, and how they solve them decides what concequences they will receive, either good or bad. Whether they are rightious or unrightious. And also; the languages will change somewhat I believe. I believe we will have languages which are designed to be read forwards, backwards, mirrored, upside down, whatever and still say the exact same thing or atleast not lie. I have a tendency at writing things at times which can be read as complete sentances both upside down, backwards and forwards, mirrored atc. One example of how our alphabet is an attempt at this I mention: Jaffad (a name I use at times. Turn it upside down: Petter, a Norwegian variant of Peter, the name I was given when I was called or awakened a few years back....)

Blessings,
Mikromarius



posted on Jan, 22 2004 @ 01:12 AM
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I like that... evil and live. Live or Not Live. I think also, NEO has it correct. The devil is an invention of man. Mostly, man is not aware of his capabilities outside physicalities. We are all created creatures that DO create our reality. When people have been told other idealogies on life and accept the hand-down. That is someone else creating their REALity for them. Thus why it says, it shall be passed down even to the seventh generation. Because teachers, parents, friends, or another individual besides yourSELF, has told you how it is. Let me give a example.

Their are five monkeys in a cage with a 5-step stairwell leading up to a banana on a string. One of the five monkeys starts walking toward the stairs and as he gets on the first step up unto the banana, the other four monkeys are all sprayed with cold water. Immediately, they attack the one monkey on the stairs going for the banana. Thus the cold water stops.

Now the first monkey is removed from the cage and in comes a new one, who gazes at the banana. As he is starting to climb the first stair, the other four are sprayed again with cold water. Of course they all attack the stairwelled monkey. Out comes another monkey to replace monkey number two who has been sprayed twice now. Again this is repeated over and over until finally all the ORIGINAL monkeys' have been replaced.

So now a new 5th monkey is put in the cage and tries to walk up to the banana, tied on a string. All four of the other monkeys rush to beat on him to get him to stop. This time however, there is no cold water on the other four monkeys. So one monkey says, to the others, "How come you all attacked me when I tried to go up the stairs to get the banana?" Another replied, " I don't know, that's just the way it is."

When you SEEK your OWN truth that is not filtered with other peoples truth. The Truth shall set you FREE.

When people believe they are lowly creatures, sinful, going to hell, etc. ... they ARE. Keep in mind, this does not disregard consequences for actions here. There is always a consequence for your actions to show you if what you did, serves you or not. (in the five sense world) Learn from YOUR mistakes and you are able to truly SEE. Taking advice from other people, automatically inserting that, without question; is what makes things, "That's just the way things are." How can you know if you don't even try to know? I'll save this for a later day.

Ultimately, it's all comes down to ONE thing. . .
Do you feel seperate from everything or could you feel one with it all? In today's world look at all the seperation in everything. (Nations, ethnicities, neighbors, genders, age, rich/poor, disregarding other species of life because you are better/seperate[another falsehood], and the 'big one' or sum total... seperation because of your BELIEFS.) Why can't we say, "My way is not better, it's just merely another way."? And then look at the neverending results' of the NOW moment. Getting the picture, the WHOLE picture? What you resist, persists. Agree to disagree and the truth can be looked at, not tossed away in an endless cycle.

No getting back to topic, I believe in no devil. When we die, we will see that we create with thought. And instantaneously. Not like the wait we have in the five sense world. So believe what you will, but if anything is seperated in the afterlife, it is because you WILL it. Do you understand?

[Edited on 1-22-04 by pacman]






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