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Originally posted by iori_komei
Prison is about rehabilitation, not punishment, since being in prison is punishment enough.
Honestly though, I'm disgusted that anybody would think that just because someones made a mistake in the past that they are all the sudden subhuman and not equal.
According to the criminologists, 6% of the criminals in America commit 70% of the crimes.
Originally posted by eyewitness86
Pay an inmate the minimum wage and they MIGHT have a chance to pay real restitution to victims and not a token; they also might save enough for a place to live when out, or to pay that child support they owe in a meaningful way, etc. They cannot give what they do not get, simple
Originally posted by whitewave
I already work for (a lot) less than I could get in the private sector and the thought of giving the prisoners more of my money to keep them busy and out of tooooo much trouble irks me. For some reason, as a state employee, my state taxes are higher than they've ever been in the private sector so I'm basically paying for the priviledge of having a job in which I financially support people who have robbed, raped, sold drugs to my gradeschool children, etc. If they get a raise and I don't, I'm going back to the private sector and they can fend for themselves.
Originally posted by mizzu
Not meaning to highjack but I have a novel idea. From what I recall, the cost of housing a prisoner in the US is appx $60,000 USD per year. Why not farm out the housing of prisoners to China. We could make them an offer to pay them $25,000 per year per prisoner & all we would ask is that they return them alive at the end of their sentence. Life sentences would not have this restriction. I bet crime would plummet soon thereafter & we would save a lot of taxpayer dollars to boot. Thoughts?
Housing costs still rising — at state prisons
SACRAMENTO, Calif. — The average annual cost of housing an inmate in the California prison system has more than doubled over the past decade to $43,287 a year, according to figures by the Legislative Analyst's Office.
Originally posted by Heronumber0
I take on the points from others who have posted. However, what is wrong with teaching miscreants about the value of labour and paying them a pittance for it.
Isn't free labour slavery?
Originally posted by eyewitness86
Until the people get over the notion that inmates deserve even more punishment than they already have heaped upon their shoulders, the system cannot change.
When sixty (60%) percent of the prison population is in for non violent drug offenses, mostly for posession and small sales (and it is a total fallcy that those in for drugs were " selling drugs to my schoolkids " or any other nonsense) most get stopped by some Task Force and give consent, like fools, to search and end up screwed. You could count the number of adults arrested foir selling drugs to schoolkids on one hand. Kids sell to each other , and why? BECAUSE OF PROHIBITION, thats why.
No one mentioned nchanging bad laws..that would actually help. griping about what your tax money pays for is silly: If you had a sensible and far reaching plan to improve things, like the legalization of ALL drugs and the distribution controoled by the governemnt or private sector, like pharmacies do for the ' legal ' drug industry now, we could # down half of all existing prisons, save mulitple billions of dollars in taxes that could go to schools and teachers instead of DEA thugs and defense attorneys,etc, etc.
But as long as some prison guard has a secure job and the prison business makes millions for the big shots, the politicians will keep the same old rotten system going. Prisons are buging at the seams, inmates are being deprived of Constitutional rights routinely, and if you do not care, then you are no patriot or compassionate human being. You also do not like efficiency or trhe bottom line either.