Originally posted by Cutwolf
Lilbalm, have you ever considered that this "truth" - this "reality" you've "discovered" is the result of an overactive and over-paranoid
Sure, every day. Then I wake up again. Every time I learn a new thing, or I come across new information, I force myself to question everything I've
learned previously and see if there are any inherent problems or contradictions. By this time, I am no longer depressed, suicidal, or even upset. I
have learned to deal with people as appropriate in each individual circumstance. I choose to seek knowledge, but I cannot hold anyone else to this,
and even if I am forced to share the same world with ignorant sleeping sheeple (by their own choice of course), then so be it. When they are ready to
know what I've come to understand, they will seek it and find it themselves - it's in front of their nose every single day, just waiting to be
You come across as intelligent, and, as someone who has an "above average IQ," I know intelligent minds think up some crazy things. Maybe this
"truth" and "reality" you've discovered is simply you creating something and wanting to have your own private thing you believe in.
I understand where you're coming from and what you're saying. However, there is just too much obvious evidence and way too many connections that
lead me to the same conclusion, to ignore them. The more I look, the more I search, the more apparent these things become, and the less real these
lies/illusions are that permeate the planet that keep the sheeple under strict control. Some of these things are the ONLY logical conclusions based on
some clear thinking about certain concepts. The more I question the validity of this, the more it reaffirms itself and the more solidity it gets. This
is rather hard to put into words in such a general sense, but there is truly much involved in this, there is no "truth" as ONE thing. Truth is
INFINITE in scope, knowledge has no limit or end. Same goes for lies. However, lies depend on people to exist, but truth is self-sufficient and is
part of objective reality.
Maybe this fruitless 24/7 search for some ground breaking, life changing "truth" led you to metaphorically multiply something by 0 and get
something other than 0 - no matter what you do, its always going to be 0.
That's assuming nothing is ADDED to the 0. You're saying that I started with no truth, twisted the stuff around, and pretended I now have truth. But
I DID add to this, I LEARNED many NEW things, things that really ARE ground breaking and life changing, although it really is subjective how you view
this knowledge. This knowledge is not my own delusion, a belief, or a self-created lie to satisfy the "urge" to know some "truth", although it may
seem this way to you and I understand that. Actually, any psychiatrist will probably conclude that I'm "nuts", simply because the psychiatrist IS a
human after all, and is conditioned to live a lie as all humans are. Anything outside our programming is automatically rejected by our minds, unless
of course we work on ourselves and learn to strip away our own illusions (beliefs), and wishful-thinking.
Maybe, just maybe, you became sick of no results from your search
That might be true IF there were no results, which is a false premise!
, so you manipulated it so in some nonsensical way it became something other than "0."
You present yourself in a calm, intelligent, "I don't care if you believe me" manner, yet I think you do care. If you did not care, you would not
dangle this "carrot" in front of our noses.
True, I have this overwhelming desire to wake others up, although I understand how senseless that really is. Those who wish to wake up seek the
knowledge themselves, and I can only serve to help them attain it - I cannot give it to those who are not seeking it. It's like pouring water in the
middle of the desert - useless to the extreme. However, I am still "working" on taming that urge to wake everyone else up, and the disbelief that
people can actually CHOOSE to be ignorant. It's hart to come to terms with, although NECESSARY if I am to avoid violating the free will of those who
choose to NOT see.
Its like the ATS readers are cats and you're holding what appears to be the fish in front of their noses. You nudge the cats around on a wild goose
(or fish, in this case) chase and eventually, after fruitless searching for this fish, they realize there are no fish and the fish you were holding
was just a plush toy.
Maybe ATS is your way to get that attention you seem to be lacking underneath your "I dont care" attitude (as evidenced by your last post:
I feel like that absolutely with anyone now, and I no longer have any "friends" as people understand the term. I have more or less
people I occasionally "associate" with out of necessity at work etc, but my mindset has been so drastically altered that I find small talk and
typical chit chat or whatever people do when they just "hang out" absolutely ludicrous and senseless.
What really hangs like a rock over my head is the absolute ignorance of people, how "truth" doesn't interest them at all. They only care about
fun, movies, parties, sex, dating, videogames, reality shows, the latest computers, sports (big one...)... etc. Imagine me coming up to ANYONE and
trying to explain that all of this has been purposefully created to distract them and keep them busy. Don't forget, the act of constantly being kept
busy is the number one thing that allows the intense state of suggestability that permeates all levels of our society. It keeps people blind,
ignorant, and without even a desire anymore for truth. If someone questions something, there will always come along a Preacher (not just religious,
just anyone) who will set them straight. All these are only a small portion of the variety of ways that 3rd density humans on this planet are
To me this says it all. I am no psychologist, but I'm willing to bet that you aren't very social in real life and may not have the best luck making
friends or getting along with people.
Interesting deduction, but false in this case. I have absolutely no problem getting along with people, and in fact, I practically NEVER have any
confrontations with people. I do not choose to have "my way" and violate free will of another to do as they wish, and this is a good way to avoid
unnecessary conflict. Getting along is the easy part, but actually FEELING close to someone, or BEING on the same level with someone in terms of
gereral understanding of reality and the way this world "ticks", that's an issue. This may create an impression that I think I'm "smarter than
everyone else" which is false, as my capacity to retain and process knowledge is not really anything "special". However, my burning desire to only
seek truth may be considered special, as it's not very common, and therefore when I actually FIND the truth, it by default clashes with practically
everyone else's "ideas" of reality, and therefore creates a problem if I tried to be sincere with someone about such issues. If I choose to "drop
the act" and be real, THIS is the part where I end up in the mental hospital. To avoid such a fate, I am forced to maintain at least a margin of
"the act" to appease the appetites of certain individuals for "socialising", although I try to keep this at a MINIMUM.
You feel like just another face in the crowd and someone that no one gives a second glance to, so ATS is your way to get noticed - your way to get
Started out to be a way to "wake people up", and now, as I've learned the futility of such an endeavor, as it's upto the individual whether he is
ready and chooses to wake up, I abstain from quite so many posts as you've noticed. I let nature take its course, and observe. I am always here to
help anyone who asks, but I can ONLY HELP, the work is always done by the individual. The teacher in school can ONLY HELP, the work to LEARN is always
done by you, isn't it? Life is just another school. Although I'm no teacher, I'm just a student who is just a few lessons ahead, though still in
the same grade.
I'm really sorry to go off and rant like this, but as a message board visitor for the past 6 or 7 years, this is a classic case of "Attention
whore" syndrome - much the same as John Titor.
Perhaps, though as you can see, the "attention whore" syndrome has waned lately. I am constantly learning and advancing myself, and try not to
stagnate on the same lesson by being entropic and non-thinking as most people indeed are. I try to truly BE, to exercise my FREE WILL, by becoming
aware of new knowledge that reveals new choices and learning to be CONSCIOUS of reality, instead of just running numerous programs in my mind to
create the illusion of "choices" for myself, as pretty much all people do by default. Effort must be used in this work on the self, in order to wake
up and STAY awake, as the urge to "fall back asleep" is ever-present. You can look at this in any way you like, subjective reality doesn't affect
objective reality. However, I do try to be concise and to make my point as clear as possible, though sometimes poor choice of words can really mess
Anyway, this is my way of denying ignorance. Denying the ignorance of believing someone who makes it seem like we are all ignorant and he is the king
of ignorance denying.
That was cute. Well, to believe someone, is the first and the biggest step on the road to ignorance - lack of knowledge. Do you think the truth really
is out there somewhere? And if so, then doesn't it mean that it is POSSIBLE for someone, somewhere to KNOW it? And if so, isn't it possible that
could know it, at least in part? What do you think it takes to see how deep the rabbit hole really goes? A miracle? Or perhaps just the WILL
to do it and the perseverence to never stop searching? EVERY question that you can possibly think of has a right answer. Some people seek the answer,
while others sit there and wait for the answer to be "shown" to them by someone else. The latter never find the truth, because you cannot learn to
ride a bike without actually RIDING the bike. You cannot learn to swim without actually swimming. You cannot learn the truth without actually SEEKING
the truth. However, to have an anticipated idea of what you will find as you seek it is NOT seeking at all.
Even better, do you think you'd recognize the truth if you saw it, when your mind has no room for it, nor any desire to SEE it. This represents
pretty much ALL humans on this planet, with the exception of a few. Those few consist of the elite that govern our planet, although they themselves
are wishfully thinking and serving self, which means they learn JUST enough knowledge to have power over the people, but choose to ignore the rest. In
addition, there are a few service-to-others candidates that ALSO seek knowledge, and they ALSO learn it, retain it, and share it with others who ASK
for it. Asking is not verbal, but by the effort of the individual to honestly, without expectation seek truth.
Believe me? No, I'd never ask anyone to do that, this would contradict all that I've learned.