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You say one must want to know the the truth but you either do not know it your self or "know" and wont tell because you "know" its not the "TRUTH".
Or, I know it, but realise that it simply must be sought with your whole being, or you'll never find it, as it cannot be given.
Originally posted by Amuk
What does ANY of this have to do with sucide? Can we get back to something close to topic?
Suicide...For a Reason?
I've done several researches in my past and I have a strong belief that some people commit suicide for some unknown reason. Maybe they have uncovered a secret that was so relieving or so horrifying that they took life into their own hands....
I know secrets like this, that I found recently. They can make many commit suicide and go insane. You have no idea how strong of an effect some truths can be. This world is all based on lies, but that's no secret. The secret is the actual TRUTH. I thought I was going to puke, and I was depressed for a month and suicidal when I found out. (This isn't a belief, and I won't go into my evidence nor ask anyone to believe this. But it's some true, scary . But only true for me since I'm not sharing any sources... you must find this yourself.). Take this as my opinion, nothing more!
But yes, the truth was worth it after a month of hell. I never, in my wildest imagination, could come up with what it is I learned, and it scared the living out of me. All my values/beliefs/knowledge of the past had to be wiped entirely. I'm like a drone that had to start over. But it was worth it.. after I survived anyway.
Originally posted by Halcy0n
Look sorry for flipping out but i guess I just don't like not knowing what your big secret is. It pisses me off not understanding this stuff. But I guess there are tons of things I dont know. If you really know the secret of the universe well thats cool. I dont know if I would have enough patience to achieve that state. Anyways Even if I dont believe in your theories that doesnt give me the right to ridicule you for them.
Originally posted by XL5
I just read the first 5 pages and skimmed alot for about 3-4 hours and I am not going one way or the other on this reallity thing but I do have some logical Q's.
1. Are the greys in on this and if not, I wonder what sort of antics they would pull if they figured it out.
2. You say 90% of the people on earth will die cause the show is ending, how many greys will die and where will the planets go. Because if the show ends and starts over, wouldn't the planets need to as well?
3. If you understand time, then you would know the basics of "frame" control. Wouldn't you want to learn more about sci/tech to make a time machine for some cosmic shats and giggles?
4. How do know "it" will happen in 5 yrs?
5. Why would nothing matter even if it was false, things do still feel/taste good and you can't change the outcome...so why worry... fo-gad-abou-dit right?
6. For fun, is there any letters left on your KB?
I am a very blunt person. I am not trying to disprove you or getting the "easy" answer but if everything is fake, some form of logic is still present.
I wonder if this has any connection with kangaxx's thread/message.
Originally posted by N0ONE
Now I have a curious question to ask you. What is your honest opinion about the existence of Jesus Christ? In your opinion: 1. Was he a real man and a son of God?
or 2. Was he product of an extraterrestrial origin ?
3. He never existed and is a myth which in actuality represent our Sun star?
Please keep in mind that anything I say here or elsewhere could always be wrong...
Nothing is certain, the future is open
I don't think our Sun was involved
I know secrets like this, that I found recently. They can make many commit suicide and go insane. You have no idea how strong of an effect some truths can be. This world is all based on lies, but that's no secret. The secret is the actual TRUTH
Psychosis describes severe mental illness that involves, an individual, being unable to distinguish between what is real and what is imaginary.
Symptoms include hallucinations (seeing, smelling or feeling things that do not exist), delusions (bizarre, false beliefs) or hearing voices (when no one is talking). Also severe thought disturbances and grossly abnormal behaviour.
It is not a general truth of the evolving World, but you can find that too, by observing things at a wider range. Whatever you feel useful, you can observe that and follow rules upon them.
Originally posted by Vertu
This is because not every person is same.
Those people who are hiding the "truth", or let's say, their true side, are actually building up an illusion for themselves, and keep this illusion in shape....
It means, that they can be easily attacked by any person, who has no illusion around him, because he does not need that.
"Those who are not honest for their own self, and try to live a life like that, will never ever achieve anything against those, who live a straight life. This was always a rule, since humans exist. "
It is also not a good idea to attack a person's post, if you have no reason for that.
(Lilblam, please understand that I am not trying to be derogatory by these posts but am trying to show you the 'truth')
Originally posted by Klepto
So what you are saying is that a person who creates an illusion for themselves is open to being manipulated by by someone who has no illusion and only acts upon what they conceive to be true knowledge..
This is fair enough however, the point I was trying to make was that people who are under an illusion generally do not know this.
that fact that someone is capable of building an illusion about what is going on around them means that they are suseptable to having this again.. just because you realise that things you may have perceived to be true inthe past actually turned out false, this does not mean that because of this discovery, all future discoveries therefore have to be true..
being honest with yourself I agree is paramount.. there is no point kidding yourself about anything and not letting other affect you.
I did not intend to attack the post as I mention at the end.
Originally posted by Vertu
But I am pointing at those, who intensionally build illusions around themselves. In fact, most people who do this, are highly aware of it, and ALWAYS do that for hostile reasons. However, if a particular person can see into their mind, he will know that a certain approach has hostile description, and it is aiming right against him.
Those who suspect the truth in the past, and realize after all that they were wrong, they are actually "learning". It is very nice if a person is capable to learn through his life, and accepts the new events as "truth". Fine!
Originally posted by Klepto
surely building up self illusion is a defence though? you create an illusion for ones self in order to protect you from what is real.. this does not mean that reality is not real just that a person can change what they perceive to suit their own needs in their own mind...
It just means that a person who has realised that they had been perceiving life to suit their own needs described as an illusion has began to realise that they had an issue with reality. It may suit the persons needs to state that they themselves have realised that they had been disillusioned about reality and that others around him have yet to experience this before they have a true grip on reality.
but learning through life and accepting all new events as truth is not correct only an experience as the experience could have false pretenses.. you can only perceive what something is by knowing what it is not.