Originally posted by pjslug
Can yourself and wildone kindly remove yourself from this thread? Everything you have said over the entire course of this thread is childish, arrogant, and extremely annoying.

I've seen lots of evidence coming from those two, you can't censor people or evidence because they don't fit into your *belief* system.

What evidence have you produced besides a dissertation on your opinions (parts 1-16)? Stating your opinion is fine and dandy, but when others do it you complain and censor them? hmmmm.

Evidence in trying to prove something is real or fake means not being a *cheerleader* for one side or the other, keeping an unbiased as possible view on the topic. If you have stated some evidence, excuse me then, because I haven't seen any.

[edit on 6/29/2007 by greatlakes]

Someone please explain these shadows, and missing highlights on the object. Actually, the models are missing signs of REAL light. Please tell me where the light source is.... ??

Originally posted by greatlakes

Originally posted by pjslug
Can yourself and wildone kindly remove yourself from this thread? Everything you have said over the entire course of this thread is childish, arrogant, and extremely annoying.

I've seen lots of evidence coming from those two, you can't censor people or evidence because they don't fit into your *belief* system.

What evidence have you produced besides a dissertation on your opinions (parts 1-16)? Stating your opinion is fine and dandy, but when others do it you complain and censor them? hmmmm.

Evidence in trying to prove something is real or fake means not being a *cheerleader* for one side or the other, keeping an unbiased as possible view on the topic. If you have stated some evidence, excuse me then, because I haven't seen any.

[edit on 6/29/2007 by greatlakes]

I have never said for anyone not to discuss CGI. Of course that is part of this things, and will be discussed. What I am saying is reference to the comments like "This will all unfold and I will laugh myself silly at you idiots" or "Wake up people, it's a hoax" or "I am taking names of people that believe in this and will laugh at them when it's over".

And 11 11, obviously you haven't seen the high res pics that someone put on the previous page for all to download. I suggest you do so and reevaluate your CGI stance. I've worked in the graphics industry more than half my life and know very well how to spot CGI or real photos (digital or film), and if you can say after looking at them that they are CGI, well then my friend you don't have much knowledge of CGI. I never said the crafts were unequivocally real, I said they are real photos, whether the craft are props or not.

Originally posted by pjslug

Can yourself and wildone kindly remove yourself from this thread? Everything you have said over the entire course of this thread is childish, arrogant, and extremely annoying.

You know, the moderator "Springer", has awarded/applauded me 5 times in a row just for the information I have braught to this thread. Thats 500 free points each for a total of 2500 points.

So, kindly stfu.

Originally posted by frailty

This dimension and other dimensions are made of frequencies. Sometimes are brain can partially switch frequencies. This is when people who see stuff that is not of this dimension or hear stuff not of this dimension.

Really ? And how do you know this ?

Those on the other side are testing you, as we all will be tested one way or another at some point in our life.

And, why is this ? For our "dimensional" diploma ?

Just don't be so paranoid, that is when you run into problems. And yes every single person on this earth is being monitored.

Again, how do you know this ? EVERY SINGLE PERSON is being monitored ? Really....

This world all throughout history has been under constant monitoring.

Again, where did you get this information ?

I can't tell you everything. What fun would that be?

Fun ? No. Informative ? Well, I do follow tall tales such as GR and Isaac,
knowing in my heart they are full of horse-sh.....manure.

PM me if needed for help

Oh, I'll pass.

Folks, let's talk.

A thread like this has 2 options. Real, or hoax.
Occam's razor screams hoax.
The CGI experts scream hoax.
The believers reach for straws that aren't there.

Then we start getting people like frailty.

I'm sorry, but as a serious researcher into UFO's, can this particular,
and in many cases, long-running hoaxes be any way credible,
when people like this start posting ?

Isaac is a hoax. Period.
A good hoax, but a hoax.

When a hoax starts drawing the fringe out of the woodwork, IMO
it becomes even more obvious.

Please, debate the hoax, not it's credibility.

Regards,
Lex

[edit on 29-6-2007 by Lexion]

Originally posted by 11 11

Someone please explain these shadows, and missing highlights on the object. Actually, the models are missing signs of REAL light. Please tell me where the light source is.... ??

The light source is coming from the left side a little bit up and from the right side toward the middle. Each light would cast the shadows on the opposing side of the object which that photo is entirely consistent with.

And let's please stop this back and forth arguing. Noone here want's to get into a fight. Just please, as I mentioned a few posts back don't say you will laugh at people or make fun of them if it is found to be a hoax. We all have put our reputations on the line here towards our beliefs, and that should be commended on its own.

[edit on 29-6-2007 by pjslug]

Originally posted by pjslug

The light source is coming from the left side a little bit up and from the right side toward the middle. Each light would cast the shadows on the opposing side of the object which that photo is entirely consistent with.

pjslug, then where are the highlights???? If all those lights existed to make that shadow, how come we can not see the lights reflecting off of the object??

Please explain that, and stay away from the "its alien technology" explination.

Also, if the lights are were you say they are.. then why is there a masive shadow in front and back of the object?

[edit on 29-6-2007 by 11 11]

Originally posted by pjslug

Can yourself and wildone kindly remove yourself from this thread? Everything you have said over the entire course of this thread is childish, arrogant, and extremely annoying.

Umm, excuse me, sir or madam, as the case may be. You have been here exactly one whole day, and already you are ordering people around. We've endured a lot of "instant armchair experts" this week. Might I suggest that you chill out a little bit, take a look around, read the other drone threads, and perhaps come to the realization that many of us have been discussing these drones for several weeks now. Much of the stuff discussed in this thread, for example, has already been discussed ad nauseum days ago. That can get a little frustrating. So do contribute, if you can, and please allow others to do so as well. Thanks.

[edit on 6/29/2007 by schuyler]

Blaine,

That doesn't corrolate because arm 1 is on the same level plane as arm 2 which puts them both above the power lines. What you are seeing is just an optical illusion.
Also, take a look at the other photos of it in the air where there are no powerlines or trees in its path.

[edit on 29-6-2007 by pjslug]

by 11 11
You know, the moderator "Springer", has awarded/applauded me 5 times in a row just for the information I have braught to this thread. Thats 500 free points each for a total of 2500 points.

So, kindly stfu.

With all due respect, bragging about getting 2500 points from Herr Springer, with an attitude like yours, for basically being his mouthpiece regarding the CGI argument ad nauseum, says almost as much about ATS moderator bias as it does about your own abrasive approach.

I'm a bit saddened by this revelation. Thanks for tooting your own horn so eloquently.

[edit on 6/29/2007 by Outrageo]

Originally posted by Outrageo

With all due respect, bragging about getting 2500 points from Herr Springer, with an attitude like yours, for basically being his mouthpiece regarding the CGI argument ad nauseum, says almost as much about ATS moderator bias as it does about your own abrasive approach.

I'm a bit saddened by this revelation. Thanks for tooting your own horn so eloquently.

[edit on 6/29/2007 by Outrageo]

I wasn't bragging, I was proving a point to someone who has braught NOTHING to this thread..

[edit on 29-6-2007 by 11 11]

Originally posted by 11 11
You know, the moderator "Springer", has awarded/applauded me 5 times in a row just for the information I have braught to this thread. Thats 500 free points each for a total of 2500 points.

So, kindly stfu.

This is one of the most unbelievable posts I've seen on these boards ever since I started lurking. The information you have brought to this thread is just as contestable as the counter argument being formed for it. We're still heading nowhere and quite frankly I don't think we will as long as the debate is about CGI or NOT. Does it really matter?

The object can very well be a PROP if it's not CGI and that would still lead us to the same answer of it being fake/hoax/scam/sham. What we need to do is look at the other bits and pieces given by Isaac and try to figure out what we can until Isaac comes out again with new "information" about his so called object. Why? Because the argument we're on right now gives no conclusive evidence from either side.

Originally posted by 11 11
I wasn't bragging, I was proving a point to someone who has braught NOTHING to this thread..

How does the amount of points you get prove anything? Springer is using his best opinion, does that mean it's the correct one? No. I don't think he has ever claimed so - there's still a lot that hasn't been explained.

I disagree, I think every single post in this thread besides the last few have brought something to this thread. We're busy arguing about something ridiculous now. Lets get back on topic and lets try and keep it civil.

[edit on 29-6-2007 by Donoso]

Originally posted by pjslug

But unless you can substantiate some hard core evidence, can you kindly stop posting as you have been?

Sir,
You have absolutely no business asking someone to stop posting.

Why don't you post some "hardcore evidence" to prove this junk ?

And, while I'm on the topic of junk :

pjslug

There could be some sort of genetic link between the Japanese and an alien race. Strange objects with writing were found in caves in Japan. There was a History channel UFO special on this. While I don't remember all of it, I do recall that some of these objects were once on display at a museum somewhere in Japan, or somewhere on the continent of Asia. Coincidentally, they have been removed.

Talking of Dropa Stones ?

Talk about a long-dead subject. Zero evidence.
Why bring it up ?
If you are so well versed in the UFO-Alien subject, you would
know better than to bring this up.

I'm guessing that either you are involved, or have an interest
in this, that you aren't expressing.

Regards,
Lex

Originally posted by 11 11
I was proving a point to someone who has braught NOTHING to this thread..

it's better than arrogance, ignorance and misdirection.

Originally posted by Lamâshtu

well the "disappearing" powerline post kinda broke it, as it was visible in plain sight on the hires image.

Yeah I admit, I am new with this Drone thing, and I wasn't aware there was even high resolution pictures..

Originally posted by Lamâshtu

wtf? if the only reason you post, or the only reason why one should consider your points valid are virtual "award points" on an internet forum, then ... well, what can i say.

WTF are you talking about... The only damn reason I even mentioned the points was because someone was asking me to leave this thread. To prove to him that other people would like me to stay on this thread, I used that example of being applauded for my efforts on this thread by moderators..

Thats all it meant.. man you people sure know how to jump to conlcusions.

Originally posted by Blaine91555
1- it appears the cable is wedged to help hold it in place and the level of focus matches.

sorry for the one liner, but wedged, you mean as a real object? it would be huge, and tbh it doesn't look like interfering with the cable does it?