reply to post by klatunictobarata
Klatonictobarata,try the members list on ATS,the connection between Hamel and this legitimate energy source was posted several years ago by another
member,that was the name that the posts were made under.
If you want to google then Google David Hamel and dont stop until you have listened to him personally explain his concepts and until you have seen the
actual parts of his craft as he builds it.
Links are a lazy way to learn,fast but lazy,you miss to much if you just get linked to the juicy parts,like skipping all the boring chapters in a
Learning to understand HOW you got to the point of aquiring new information is equally important to the fact that you have learned something new.
If I managed to learn this with my limited computer skills---google--then surely I would hope that as others surf the information highway along the
same path I have that THEY SEE THINGS THROUGH THEIR OWN EYES AND PROVIDE US ALL WITH THEIR OWN UNIQUE INTERPRETATION OF WHAT IS THERE AS FACT.
I didnt come here to simply argue in invalid point,I am aware of the amount of time that has been invested in this thread,but if I am expected to read
each of four hundred plus pages of the thread then I think it is fair to expect some of the lazy members lurking here to do some real work for
I mean you for a start seem to be a little standoffish,read Hamels information,and pat yourself on the back because you have already added an
important piece to this puzzle with your contribution.
IT COULD TURN OUT TO BE CRITICAL.
Do you see that by simply working JUST a little bit you have shown us another important connection,you see the poster I named has an actual name for
this energy type and function,I didnt understand it completely when I read it and I surely didnt google the name --I SHOULD HAVE--but am glad you
did,I was unaware there was a connection to the name itself and crop circles,but it now seems worth looking into further thanks to your
This poster identified Hamel as posessing the RIGHT concepts concerning this energy source or function.
A connection between the posters chosen name and crop circles or their contents is interesting,it shows that this wasnt a random comment by someone
unversed with deeper issues we are discussing here,the poster is in the know and has shown it through their choice of name,like a clue if you will.
So we have someone who chooses a name with a direct connection to our topic of discussion, this person makes a post several years ago that DIRECTLY
ATTRIBUTES ACTUAL AND PERTINENT KNOWLEDGE OF A NEW ENERGY SOURCE OF FUNCTION TO MR.DAVID HAMEL,a Canadian who spent most of his life researching and
developing this information, and building prototypes of anti-gravity craft,then we end up here on this thread once again attributing this knowledge to
This guy posted long before I did and I just recently discovered the posts,I had no foreknowledge that these posts existed.
The issue here is acceptance of Hamel,then viewing the Probes in a new light,one that shows the need--by someone-- to COVER UP AND HIDE HAMELS
CHRONOLOGICAL HISTORY OF RESEARCH AND DEVELOPEMENT.
I am trying to show you how to understand why there has been such an incredible and ongoing effort to prove these probes are CGIed or hoaxed,NO ONE
expected ,or obviously could have predicted ,there to be a corroboration between Hamels craft and the Probes that have been and will continue to be
One must also understand that the government and other entities must stay ahead of all of the people interested and researching this issue today,SO
THEY ARE VERY PRO-ACTIVE in their efforts to bury or distort information.
There is a high probability that someone already had private knowledge that we were being exposed to this form of technology and that sooner than
later pictures and videos would begin showing up in the media.
The HOAX that has been PROVEN in this case "IS THE HOAX ITSELF",
This looks to be a peemptive strike at debunkery,a shot in the general direction of the documentation of the Probes themselves,I heard the sound of
the shot and came to investigate,and HAMEL came onto the scene,we need to accept and incorporate tbis developement.
However many members seem to not understand the premise that THEY are required to do the grunt work and research to DISPROVE HAMELS DIRECT CONNECTION
TO THE PROBES,and just because I pointed out what they overlooked doesnt place the burden of proof on me,it in fact obligates THEM to research and
learn enough about Hamel to come back here and intelligently discuss the topic,you see obviously the people posting here are familiar with the probes
and the pictures of them,therefore they already know generally what the Probes look like ---this is actually undeniable of most posters on this
thread,SO THEY ARE IN A DIFFICULT SPOT RIGHT NOW,because as soon as they aknowledge that they have LEARNED WHAT DAVID HAMELS CRAFT LOOK LIKE AND HOW
THEY FUNCTION,and accept the multi-decade chronological history of his research and developement AS BEING FACT,they must then admit what is to me the
bloody obvious,that HAMELS ANTI-GRAVITY CRAFT AND THE PROBES HAVE COMPONENTS THAT ARE IDENTICAL IN FORM AND FUNCTION.
Not just identical in form,but also IN FUNCTION.
Its like force feeding babies,you cant tell them what the food will taste like,so they cant ever REALLY BE PREPARED FOR THE EXPERIENCE.Your reactions
dictate their reaction as much as their own sensory input does at times.
Here is the information,I cant tell you how it will feel when you learn it,but I am trying to allow you the chance to experience it,you dont have to
embrace the knowledge,in fact you can ignore it,but sooner or later you will need it so badly you will search for it desperately.
Hamel is undeniable,learn that and come back here,I didnt say embrace Hamel or even agree with him,I SAID LEARN ABOUT HIM,then when you come back you
will be changed forever in your perspective.
I am really trying to force you to aknowledge and accept Hamels multi-decade chronological documented history of research and developement of
anti-gravity craft,I dont care if you agree with Hamel or if you think his ideas may not be workable,those are your choices,but the existance of Hamel
and his history ARE FACT,and must be aknowledged.
Once you accept these facts and incorporate them into your reality or perspective ,YOU IMMEDIATLY WILL BE DENIED THIS REDICULOUS PERSPECTIVE THAT THE
PROBES ARE NOT REAL.
You yourself will not be able to deny the reality that the probes are in some aspects identical in form and function to David Hamels anti-gravity
It matters not if Hamels craft flew or it didnt,it is his history that CANNOT BE ERASED.
You will then understand why this thread being manipulated into suggesting the Probes are a figment of someones imagination is in itself a designed
and implemented DEBUNKERY HOAX.That is attempting a pre-emptive act of debunkery on information that will undoubtably ,inevitably become public
Enter David Hamel,and now all who learn his work as consciencious observers.