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Well put, Sys.
The ARC needs no more to convene I take it.
Although I didn't mean to imply we are surrendering or giving up, your words are, as always, a comfort.
As for me, I will still be researching and watching, because I don't believe we have seen the last of the hoaxters.
This theater will remain dark until then, I guess.
I say good bye and good luck!
[HOAX] Isaac CARET - Drones [HOAX], page 419
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reply posted on 10-3-2009 @ 11:31 PM by Starhammer
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[color=Red]#1 Not That Many Of You Would Have Known This But The Material You Are Picking Apart (And Not Very Well) Is Copyright Material...#2 You Have A Copy That Has Been Dramatically Altered, So There Is No Real Worry That Any Real Damage Can Be Done, And What Great Deductive Analysis To Find An Altered Linguistic Piece Of Info With "star Wars" Writing On It In A UFO Forum...and That Part Being The Biggest Altered Part..#3 The Deductions That I Am Following As I Have Pointed Out In Other Places Are At Best A "first Grade Pass The Secret Around The Room" Quality And Felt It Almost A Duty To Say Sometime As Opposed To Watching Your Head Bashing Attempts At Analyzing An Actually Very Important Piece Of Information...and This Avenue Is Really Not In The Forefront Of The UFO Phenomenon Where As Disclosure Is. Any Real Questions Will Be Answered But More Then Likely Not In This Less Then Deductive Manner.[/color]
[color=Red]#1 Not That Many Of You Would Have Known This But The Material You Are Picking Apart (And Not Very Well) Is Copyright Material...#2 You Have A Copy That Has Been Dramatically Altered, So There Is No Real Worry That Any Real Damage Can Be Done, And What Great Deductive Analysis To Find An Altered Linguistic Piece Of Info With "star Wars" Writing On It In A UFO Forum...and That Part Being The Biggest Altered Part..#3 The Deductions That I Am Following As I Have Pointed Out In Other Places Are At Best A "first Grade Pass The Secret Around The Room" Quality And Felt It Almost A Duty To Say Sometime As Opposed To Watching Your Head Bashing Attempts At Analyzing An Actually Very Important Piece Of Information...and This Avenue Is Really Not In The Forefront Of The UFO Phenomenon Where As Disclosure Is. Any Real Questions Will Be Answered But More Then Likely Not In This Less Then Deductive Manner.[/color]
reply posted on 11-3-2009 @ 12:39 AM by Sys_Config
Originally posted by Starhammer
reply to post by kthulu
[color=Red]#1 Not That Many Of You Would Have Known This But The Material You Are Picking Apart (And Not Very Well) Is Copyright Material...#2 You Have A Copy That Has Been Dramatically Altered, So There Is No Real Worry That Any Real Damage Can Be Done, And What Great Deductive Analysis To Find An Altered Linguistic Piece Of Info With "star Wars" Writing On It In A UFO Forum...and That Part Being The Biggest Altered Part..#3 The Deductions That I Am Following As I Have Pointed Out In Other Places Are At Best A "first Grade Pass The Secret Around The Room" Quality And Felt It Almost A Duty To Say Sometime As Opposed To Watching Your Head Bashing Attempts At Analyzing An Actually Very Important Piece Of Information...and This Avenue Is Really Not In The Forefront Of The UFO Phenomenon Where As Disclosure Is. Any Real Questions Will Be Answered But More Then Likely Not In This Less Then Deductive Manner.[/color]
@Star
1.Sorry but you don't make a lick of sense except to a juvenile disguised attempt at sounding almost articulate without substance at bashing someone who pointed out the depth of this art farce, which was already known, and who pawned what off to who. Very quickly within a few posts.
We have over 200 picture files of the authors works. So if you know Lev personally, elaborate.
2. Yes its been on the forefront for over 50 years, got anything "new" to disclose?
Of course you don't. Because there isn't anything other than what the sameo same is with all the exopolitics, avalon, groundcrew, Streibers, Jefferson Airplane, Greer, or Lasalle, or Sheehan, Maurice of Earth Freedom, the pleadian Lightworkers, Earthfiles, et al, put out every year about this time along with their endless DVDs and books, and Vids. Its sounds like its you who is clueless and new to the game.
In fact, I haven't heard Sheehan or any of the "players" ever say anything about the drones, or Firmage, and they live right around where it happened, one in Walnut Creek, and the other in Los Gatos.I wonder how they possibly missed that? And if one ever did, odd they would pick ratings time to do it, which coincides with all the appearances too over the years.
Even Odder if it was a disclosure group doing this hoax, since you imply foreknowledge, for attention, and succeeded in doing what the PTB would do in a real case, without lifting one finger and free to boot.! That is a real Feat, succeeding in killing what little credibilty the UFO movement has and making it look like a community ofKooks, and skilled liars. Kudos.
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3. I feel it a duty to point out you are contradicting yourself. First its important piece of information then its not., care to elaborate? Copyright?
really, again who is the owner, if not Lev, and if you saw copyright?
4. If you go to Droneteam.com you will find excellent company and they need an excuse like disclosure to hide their failed attempt to continue the hoax. Go there and give them hope. Disclosure is the fad term to conceal failure, in this case. Its ok, you can walk out with your dignity. We won't bash you.
Have a nice day.
@FooF click on www.ufo-blog.com... for a good recap. or click on my profile and go thru that for multiple examples showing hoax. Hope that helps.
Cheers.
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reply posted on 11-3-2009 @ 09:54 AM by Double_Nought_Spy
reply to post by Starhammer
Lev, I wish you would do something useful here and respond to that question I asked you many moons ago over at OMF: How do you interact with the Internet? Specifically, do Ascended Beings still need a keyboard and Internet connection? That seems awfully cumbersome, given the abilities inherent in your state. Maybe you have some more direct way to post? That seems like it would be much more efficient Than Hitting The Shift Key Every Time You Begin A Word. I know this may seem like a trivial question, but it is a very interesting subject to some of us, and if you are going to come here in a most un-Buddha like manner and belittle our honest efforts, it seems like it would only be good karma to throw us a small bone to chew on.
[edit on 3/11/09 by Double_Nought_Spy]
Lev, I wish you would do something useful here and respond to that question I asked you many moons ago over at OMF: How do you interact with the Internet? Specifically, do Ascended Beings still need a keyboard and Internet connection? That seems awfully cumbersome, given the abilities inherent in your state. Maybe you have some more direct way to post? That seems like it would be much more efficient Than Hitting The Shift Key Every Time You Begin A Word. I know this may seem like a trivial question, but it is a very interesting subject to some of us, and if you are going to come here in a most un-Buddha like manner and belittle our honest efforts, it seems like it would only be good karma to throw us a small bone to chew on.
[edit on 3/11/09 by Double_Nought_Spy]
reply posted on 11-3-2009 @ 08:09 PM by Katterfelto
Originally posted by Double_Nought_Spy
reply to post by Starhammer
Lev, I wish you would do something useful here and respond to that question I asked you many moons ago over at OMF: How do you interact with the Internet? Specifically, do Ascended Beings still need a keyboard and Internet connection? That seems awfully cumbersome, given the abilities inherent in your state. Maybe you have some more direct way to post? That seems like it would be much more efficient Than Hitting The Shift Key Every Time You Begin A Word. I know this may seem like a trivial question, but it is a very interesting subject to some of us, and if you are going to come here in a most un-Buddha like manner and belittle our honest efforts, it seems like it would only be good karma to throw us a small bone to chew on.
[edit on 3/11/09 by Double_Nought_Spy]
Nah, say it's not so. I knew I saw that sly fox and $20 tie set someplace before.
I would like further details on the 3 points in the OP, specificially what exact material is being referred to, why it it very important, what is meant by real damage and .. oh, who owns the copyright?
I do think I know the reason for the Shift Key: energy pulses.
reply posted on 13-3-2009 @ 07:27 PM by Sys_Config
Well, while the DRT and its affiliates plan their next connivance, and since
StarHammer never returned, (interesting anagrams in that Star) I would like now to leave this with you all.
From Doomsday Cults for Dummies by Zeke Livyatan
This reviewer Sys, Gives a 5 stars out of five This guy is good
His site was hacked, first page is gone, but index leads dirctly to real meat.
www.blackplague.org...
For the the aspiring messianics and pychophants in wanting a piece of the action in ufology and the paranormal, this is perhaps one of the best guides I have come across.
We have been blessed to witness one of the groups described, in fact I think they read it before I did.
Excerpt 1
If a Christian framework is too unaesthetic for your tastes, you can achieve immediate authority by declaring that your religion is a direct and authentic descendant of an ancient tradition. Claiming to "rediscover" the "sacred truths" of the Druids, Romans, Celts, Amerindians, Egyptians, Sumerians, Vikings, or Yogis lends instant credibility to your creed. The actual historicity of your reconstruction is irrelevant. Any historian who critiques your flawed mythology will be ignored by your followers as an old fogey who just doesn’t truly appreciate the ancient culture. As proof, witness the New Age response to harsh rebukes from professional Egyptologists.
Never be afraid of practices or beliefs that seem too loony to ever possibly work. The con-men who pioneered snake handling, Ufology, and the Hollow Earth Theory probably had the same initial reservations. Sometimes absurdity itself can be attractive - the cults with the most bizarre means of dress, speech, and behavior are often the most popular. People like to try new and exotic things and, when convinced that they are better, now feel superior to everyone in the day-to-day world. There is also the additional conviction that these ideas surely must be right, for otherwise I’ve been the biggest fool by following them. Cults still thrive in the 21st Century even after rejecting the cosmologies of Darwin and Copernicus.
Excerpt2
"Exact date-setting should generally be avoided (unless you have the means to successfully reify your prediction) but a Great Disappointment doesn’t signify the end of a movement -- fast excuses can always be made and community bonds are always strengthened by hardship. The Watchtower Society (Jehovah’s Witnesses) forecasted the End in 1914, 1918, 1925, 1941, and 1975 without people questioning their track record and abandoning the cult in despair.
When society is mired in iniquity and you and your small band of friends are the only "good" people remaining, it makes one feel rather special. An air of urgency also now surrounds the goals of the cult. Be especially sure to cite statistics which show how the "good" people of the world are now being relentlessly persecuted by the "bad" people. "
"Madness is rare in individuals but abounds in groups." ~ Nietzsche
[edit on 13-3-2009 by Sys_Config]
StarHammer never returned, (interesting anagrams in that Star) I would like now to leave this with you all.
From Doomsday Cults for Dummies by Zeke Livyatan
This reviewer Sys, Gives a 5 stars out of five This guy is good
His site was hacked, first page is gone, but index leads dirctly to real meat.
www.blackplague.org...
For the the aspiring messianics and pychophants in wanting a piece of the action in ufology and the paranormal, this is perhaps one of the best guides I have come across.
We have been blessed to witness one of the groups described, in fact I think they read it before I did.
Excerpt 1
If a Christian framework is too unaesthetic for your tastes, you can achieve immediate authority by declaring that your religion is a direct and authentic descendant of an ancient tradition. Claiming to "rediscover" the "sacred truths" of the Druids, Romans, Celts, Amerindians, Egyptians, Sumerians, Vikings, or Yogis lends instant credibility to your creed. The actual historicity of your reconstruction is irrelevant. Any historian who critiques your flawed mythology will be ignored by your followers as an old fogey who just doesn’t truly appreciate the ancient culture. As proof, witness the New Age response to harsh rebukes from professional Egyptologists.
Never be afraid of practices or beliefs that seem too loony to ever possibly work. The con-men who pioneered snake handling, Ufology, and the Hollow Earth Theory probably had the same initial reservations. Sometimes absurdity itself can be attractive - the cults with the most bizarre means of dress, speech, and behavior are often the most popular. People like to try new and exotic things and, when convinced that they are better, now feel superior to everyone in the day-to-day world. There is also the additional conviction that these ideas surely must be right, for otherwise I’ve been the biggest fool by following them. Cults still thrive in the 21st Century even after rejecting the cosmologies of Darwin and Copernicus.
Excerpt2
"Exact date-setting should generally be avoided (unless you have the means to successfully reify your prediction) but a Great Disappointment doesn’t signify the end of a movement -- fast excuses can always be made and community bonds are always strengthened by hardship. The Watchtower Society (Jehovah’s Witnesses) forecasted the End in 1914, 1918, 1925, 1941, and 1975 without people questioning their track record and abandoning the cult in despair.
When society is mired in iniquity and you and your small band of friends are the only "good" people remaining, it makes one feel rather special. An air of urgency also now surrounds the goals of the cult. Be especially sure to cite statistics which show how the "good" people of the world are now being relentlessly persecuted by the "bad" people. "
We Wanna Believe!
"Madness is rare in individuals but abounds in groups." ~ Nietzsche
[edit on 13-3-2009 by Sys_Config]
reply posted on 17-3-2009 @ 12:51 PM by Sys_Config
In going back to the beginning, its almost like visiting a cemetery. you see tombstones with names and dates, wonder what each graves occupant may
have done with their lives, whether one knew the other, seeing generation after generation, envisioning and hearing voices, some lives cut short,
others living a long and hopefully productive tenures, just reflection after reflection, to pay respects and contemplate ones own mortality. Hoping in
some small way perhaps the spirit or ghost is watching you, wish them well so they can be at peace. Some simple marker say nothing, and others are
grand and tell you everything, wanting to stand out above all the rest, whether by intention or just just they happened to be able to afford it or
they were very very liked.
So thanks to Sidd , who asked me to go and pay my respects, I took a walk along the trail where Isaac started June 26, 2007 and came across some email exchanges between people who are scientists, journalists, etc, and or in the know of things like Jack Sarfatti , a well known and respected physicist, and Linda Howe, yes our Linda, and Tim Ventura, who is perhaps one of the most agressive young men, and advocates for antigravity.
I think their feelings, on the 27 and 28 were quite prophetic, as even collins was referenced,. More importantly, you would think their opinions would have mattered to Linda, who rather than pause for thought, we know went full steam ahead, after all she had put in all that time with shirley, and then Alabama drones, all events that there is no evidence on her board of reports prior to the dragonflies.
Matters such as lack of markers were brung up, such as the lack of stamps. One party, said the Gov does that to keep attention away from most sensitive material. But Yet, I imagine putting Extra Terrestial technology and using terms like Anti Gravity would definitely make it much more if not absolutely, discreet, so that markings were not necessary, in the event someone just glanced.
I am sure Marvin, and You Katter have not seen these or recall them, but all of us can find something interesting. Or perhaps, the ghosts will follow you home or lead to more buried answers.
tech.groups.yahoo.com...
I do wonder why Tim had said he felt a need to apologize to Linda for Caret, when he called it a hoax himself, it was out of place, at the very beginning, but the rest flows beautifully.
Its interesting Linda was supposed to come out with a special report about now, perhaps to link it to disclosure, something if you examine the email listings you will see all too familiar names, in that arena. Heck, if exopolitics can link their material to Battlestar Galactica and the UN, well, darn well, she can salvage her name too linking the mess to "disclosure".
If she wants to salvage that, then she should, after whats been completed, and what her peers told her in the emails, also release those 11 pictures, which the entire internet knows about, so the real ufologists with skills, can study them, and help ufology as a whole. She fails to see the "big Picture" and has spent her last waking moment it seems avoiding questions, just as the puppet DRT and PI's did. At leastthe PIs, complicit or not, were paid and under contract....but I digress
Its getting time for them to "come out cupboard" anyway as Sherwood's Rajon Man at cropcircleexplorers said once, and start the next phase. Just don't do it on April 1, 2009. Thats too obvious.
PS ..Its a hilarious coincidence that alan parker is an email recipient, as thats the name used in Sarah Conners famous Earthlings are welcome here" . I think the real alan parker is a movie producer and screenwriter.
They admitted scratching of Isaacs name, but I wonder how they got that Alan Parker into the Scc script? Was it pulled out unconsciously from the Ether?
I am sure Isaac is turning over in his grave right now.
Well
Anyone mourning him and the story, , I will just say he and the story are in a much better place now.
RIP
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[edit on 17-3-2009 by Sys_Config]
So thanks to Sidd , who asked me to go and pay my respects, I took a walk along the trail where Isaac started June 26, 2007 and came across some email exchanges between people who are scientists, journalists, etc, and or in the know of things like Jack Sarfatti , a well known and respected physicist, and Linda Howe, yes our Linda, and Tim Ventura, who is perhaps one of the most agressive young men, and advocates for antigravity.
I think their feelings, on the 27 and 28 were quite prophetic, as even collins was referenced,. More importantly, you would think their opinions would have mattered to Linda, who rather than pause for thought, we know went full steam ahead, after all she had put in all that time with shirley, and then Alabama drones, all events that there is no evidence on her board of reports prior to the dragonflies.
Matters such as lack of markers were brung up, such as the lack of stamps. One party, said the Gov does that to keep attention away from most sensitive material. But Yet, I imagine putting Extra Terrestial technology and using terms like Anti Gravity would definitely make it much more if not absolutely, discreet, so that markings were not necessary, in the event someone just glanced.
I am sure Marvin, and You Katter have not seen these or recall them, but all of us can find something interesting. Or perhaps, the ghosts will follow you home or lead to more buried answers.
tech.groups.yahoo.com...
I do wonder why Tim had said he felt a need to apologize to Linda for Caret, when he called it a hoax himself, it was out of place, at the very beginning, but the rest flows beautifully.
Its interesting Linda was supposed to come out with a special report about now, perhaps to link it to disclosure, something if you examine the email listings you will see all too familiar names, in that arena. Heck, if exopolitics can link their material to Battlestar Galactica and the UN, well, darn well, she can salvage her name too linking the mess to "disclosure".
If she wants to salvage that, then she should, after whats been completed, and what her peers told her in the emails, also release those 11 pictures, which the entire internet knows about, so the real ufologists with skills, can study them, and help ufology as a whole. She fails to see the "big Picture" and has spent her last waking moment it seems avoiding questions, just as the puppet DRT and PI's did. At leastthe PIs, complicit or not, were paid and under contract....but I digress
Its getting time for them to "come out cupboard" anyway as Sherwood's Rajon Man at cropcircleexplorers said once, and start the next phase. Just don't do it on April 1, 2009. Thats too obvious.
PS ..Its a hilarious coincidence that alan parker is an email recipient, as thats the name used in Sarah Conners famous Earthlings are welcome here" . I think the real alan parker is a movie producer and screenwriter.
They admitted scratching of Isaacs name, but I wonder how they got that Alan Parker into the Scc script? Was it pulled out unconsciously from the Ether?
I am sure Isaac is turning over in his grave right now.
Well
Anyone mourning him and the story, , I will just say he and the story are in a much better place now.
RIP
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[edit on 17-3-2009 by Sys_Config]
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