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[HOAX] Isaac CARET - Drones [HOAX]

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posted on Jan, 17 2009 @ 04:12 PM
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Originally posted by Sys_Config
Same Nice Lady , advisor/contact to Linda told everyone in PM Linda had something that would knock our socks off..to be Patient. having spoken on phone to her on several occasions. [edit on 17-1-2009 by Sys_Config]


LOL Nice Try! Although some may believe you..

Perhaps it's time to call my other cousin Caluglia in to get some facts straight eh???

I only wish LMH could bring more and I'm sure she does too..
Sooo transparent .. tisk tisk... tisk.. Caluglia.. calm down.. not yet..


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posted on Jan, 17 2009 @ 04:31 PM
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TBH sys.. I've been wondering how you sleep at night, with the world so full of calculated fabrication all joined together in forces that have the sole pupose of driving a few dronies off the edge. Oh and ending up on a tv series too.. Well that's quite the plot to follow..

Too bad you didn't invest more time in 911 analysis.. you'd never sleep then
But I do admire your dedication, keep casting your net.
But release the innocent.. like everyone you've mentioned !
But I do wonder about Denise



posted on Jan, 17 2009 @ 05:24 PM
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Hi, Tomi,

Nice to see you popping in to offer some germaine comments and, if nothing else, to see that our applecart is firmly upright and full of bounty.

There is something I would like to ask you here and now, on a serious level.

As a DRT founding member and drone researcher - what is your take on the TV series' Terminator/Sarah Connor Chronicles representation of the drones and Isaac?

If you could also tell us what your colleagues think, and the P.I.'s, it would give us some insight we perhaps didn't cover here on ATS.

Thanx, Tomi!

Klat
ARC Ombudsman



posted on Jan, 17 2009 @ 05:31 PM
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Hmm wonder what LMH could connect this to now

Perhaps tomi could get a Tarot reading from the magic symbols very familiar in the Lap.....Is this why the drones are so close to you Tomi and have character..From folio13 to the books of 777.........



posted on Jan, 17 2009 @ 05:40 PM
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So Tomi the Truther has brought us another load of vapid diversionary blather in response to some darn good questions. Does anyone recall the last time we got a straight answer out of the Drone Maintenance Team?



posted on Jan, 17 2009 @ 06:01 PM
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I think there was that one time when....No wait..There was another post at...Ahhhh nevermind......

That car reminds me of one that Rowan Atkinson used in the Mr Bean series..



posted on Jan, 17 2009 @ 07:53 PM
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Originally posted by klatunictobarata
As a DRT founding member and drone researcher - what is your take on the TV series' Terminator/Sarah Connor Chronicles representation of the drones and Isaac?

If you could also tell us what your colleagues think, and the P.I.'s, it would give us some insight we perhaps didn't cover here on ATS.



As a former DRT Drone Research, etc.. I can only give my opinion and I think that SCC was more plaguristic than the core of this thing. And I haven't any idea what that core is.



posted on Jan, 17 2009 @ 07:59 PM
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For those unaware, Whitley Streiber's take was that he first believed the hoax was real proof of E.T. craft, he then said it was a hoax but in an email to me said that he still believed that the 'hoax' was inspired by E.T., just had to let everyone know, I can quote from the email if anyone is interested, I just can't see someone like Whitley being duped so badly by this hoax, I know Stanton Friedman knew the second the photos first came out as did I that it looks like a sprinkler, he assumed a real one I assumed a cgi one, but it's just plain as day to me it's a hoax.

To anyone that actually believes the hoax, No non-anonymous eye witnesses exist.



posted on Jan, 17 2009 @ 08:09 PM
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Thanks, Razimus. Some of us are very interested in Whitley's real views, for a number of reasons. Can you tell us when it was he said he believed it was a hoax?

I was for quite a number of years a big fan of Mr. Strieber. For now, he is in my gray basket. He is a very intelligent man, no doubt about it.



posted on Jan, 17 2009 @ 08:27 PM
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Hehe, nice to see you here Raz,

but you yourself never explained, why you now tell the world, that your were John Titor. And you told in this thread, it looks like the same people.





posted on Jan, 17 2009 @ 08:29 PM
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Here's the only email I can find, of Whitley Streiber's response to me saying the caret-drone was a hoax, but I know he did say he believed it was real earlier on, perhaps I read that on his site, but this email to me is dated 7/1/07





Caret hoax? You are jumping to conclusions. It may be a hoax, but your statement is one of opinion and not fact. There is a huge difference between the two, and also, hoaxes in this field are often not what they seem. They are often perpitrated by people with close encounter experiences buried in their minds somewhere, who are obsessive. They make hoaxes, but the hoaxes contain concealed and valuable information from their suppressed encounters.

Even if the Caret material is indeed a hoax, it almost certainly contains such information.

The world of close encounter is not simple. You need to be comfortable living in a funhouse, frankly, where some of the mirrors reflect truth, others partial truth, and others are complete illusions. The only way to negotiate it is to stay unsure.

My guess is that the Caret material will never be definitively proved or disproved, and we'll be left with the question. But no matter. Questions are more powerful than facts, if used responsibly.

WS




posted on Jan, 17 2009 @ 08:36 PM
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Wow! For a moment there, I thought I was reading something written by Tomi, or maybe Numbers in a more lucid moment. Partly real! That means anything is possible, and we need not be too tied up in facts or even some pedantic "reality." Laws of physics giving your story trouble? No problem! How liberating this whole thing is!


Anyway, thanks for sharing. That date is interesting.



posted on Jan, 17 2009 @ 08:37 PM
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Originally posted by Siddharta
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Hehe, nice to see you here Raz,

but you yourself never explained, why you now tell the world, that your were John Titor. And you told in this thread, it looks like the same people.




Hello Siddharta, do I know you from some other forum? Heheheheheh.... since this isn't a JT thread I can't mention any details, but I do plan on, releasing some information, in the future, on some titor thread.



posted on Jan, 17 2009 @ 09:15 PM
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Hi Razimus, welcome, thanx for thos Oil pigs at the beginning of this whole episode. Yes Whitley indeed thinx tha its the idea generated by the event thats important not whether the event was a hoax or not. Thats what he said in those links.That it may have something to do with crop circles and et associations, is what is important, which tied in nicely with Linda and his products he sells of course.. Ideas..Like a a poster put in mandelbrott designs to allude to some concept, and Whitley put that in his "draft" Reyes report mid July, ..they were going full throtlle on this in so little time, and came to screeching halt.
Hope you let us know about that Titor thing, I tried following larry haber, Destina movie distribution chain etc..visi calc company, even little studios ..and it went dead..I really want to know about that Karl Simonoke guy that ran the foundation email all the way from George Mason...He had one wierd comnection to to a Darpa funded organic neural computer AI guy Alexei Samsanovich, smarter than him even. Karl was specialist in consciousness, light, and of course Radiation biology and nutrition. I wondar how Darpas AI baby is doing?
www.neuroinf.org...
They served as consultants to the Titor school production. at that Univ.
Larry still shows up on Artbell, pushing that thing. The skit talking to the mother , himself actually, (i did that with bill collectors all the time) was hilarious..


Please , Please, let us know when you do come out with something on that. I had oregon, Fl, and ca connections there too, as in this case. It would be funny if Todd schwartz and larry Haber knew each other.

A podcast would be great also..You do outstanding work.
Do you believe LMH and C2c know what they are doing when they push these things on us, like the old nod and a wink.
Your answer is purely voluntary, Your thoughts that Sidd mentioned are of course relevant, since we are talking about a network of people, one hand helpiing the other..almost like a hoax on demand . So IWE are all intrigued, as you already can tell, its been declared a hoax already..read the thread head..so the who, is up for grabs..Give it a go John..

Regards.

PS
Nice myspace..that cut untold numbers was great
profile.myspace.com...
and that other site www.BTTF.com... has really come along since I last saw it.
The delorean is one of my Fvs, that one was really pimped. I noted it said marketing, is that in general or just for BTTF ..thanx









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posted on Jan, 17 2009 @ 10:09 PM
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That report always made me laugh with Reyes admiration for Whit....
It never seemed to impress me only ask more question about motivation....

Interesting mail...So I guess this means that Lev hoaxed the thumper because deep down he actually saw a thumper drone....



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posted on Jan, 18 2009 @ 01:47 AM
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Hahaha..
I remember Joe schumacher talking sci but never signed name or certified..just guess, and disappeared..but what he said is whats important! not that he ran away.

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Same with Reyes, He said the drawings , not the story was important..I have a gut feeling his wife told him, you get involved with this, and down the road these people will dump you, and your students laugh at you.
smart woman, if thats what happened. Smart man that he listened. He must be counting his lucky stars.
Lev thumped quite a few that rascal. Amazing the props he came up with. Compared to what SCC showed in that CGI prototype Hunter craft, Levs is stellar..Whether this is cgi or actual mini models I find them detailed and exquisite, and believable.

I always found this one gorgeous, look at the detail, the skulls, and other icons, I could not place.









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posted on Jan, 18 2009 @ 02:08 AM
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Originally posted by Sys_Config

Please , Please, let us know when you do come out with something on that. I had oregon, Fl, and ca connections there too, as in this case. It would be funny if Todd schwartz and larry Haber knew each other.

A podcast would be great also..You do outstanding work.

Do you believe LMH and C2c know what they are doing when they push these things on us, like the old nod and a wink.

Your answer is purely voluntary, Your thoughts that Sidd mentioned are of course relevant, since we are talking about a network of people, one hand helpiing the other..almost like a hoax on demand . So IWE are all intrigued, as you already can tell, its been declared a hoax already..read the thread head..so the who, is up for grabs..Give it a go John..

Regards.



Thanks Sys_Config,

I will let ya know, I just don't want to release something half baked, about lmh and c2cam, well I personally think linda is good at what she does, which is run a tabloid journalism site, slanted towards the paranormal, but she doesn't do her research, she was fed a bunch of lies via anonymous emails and she believed every word, at least I believe she did, this is based on having heard many conversations with her on c2cam, she usually always thinks she's right even when proven wrong on the show.

Ever since George Noory took over, c2cam has been more entertainment and less speculation, not that Art Bell wasn't entertainment and not that Art did any extensive research, but at least Art asked hard questions, George never does, without a skeptical host questions never get answered, all Noory cares about is if the show is entertaining, he becomes friends with every guest and apparently has few opinions against anyone.

I don't think c2cam is very interested in breaking any breaking news that has substance or not as long as it sounds sensational, and as long as someone like LMH is pushing it, they will let it on the air. It isn't THAT tough getting on the show, I tried once and I almost got on, but I don't have a book to plug, or a site selling anything, that's all anyone needs basically...

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posted on Jan, 18 2009 @ 05:26 AM
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Originally posted by Razimus
reply to post by Double_Nought_Spy
 


Here's the only email I can find, of Whitley Streiber's response to me saying the caret-drone was a hoax, but I know he did say he believed it was real earlier on, perhaps I read that on his site, but this email to me is dated 7/1/07





Caret hoax? You are jumping to conclusions. It may be a hoax, but your statement is one of opinion and not fact. There is a huge difference between the two, and also, hoaxes in this field are often not what they seem. They are often perpitrated by people with close encounter experiences buried in their minds somewhere, who are obsessive. They make hoaxes, but the hoaxes contain concealed and valuable information from their suppressed encounters.

Even if the Caret material is indeed a hoax, it almost certainly contains such information.

The world of close encounter is not simple. You need to be comfortable living in a funhouse, frankly, where some of the mirrors reflect truth, others partial truth, and others are complete illusions. The only way to negotiate it is to stay unsure.

My guess is that the Caret material will never be definitively proved or disproved, and we'll be left with the question. But no matter. Questions are more powerful than facts, if used responsibly.

WS





Hi Razimus,

To be honest I believe that Whitley’s opinion relating to the Drones has been nullified, effectively cancelled out by his contrasting opinion depending on the time of year he’s asked, then there’s his opposite and constantly changing conclusions which were also evident back in 2007 when he wrote a piece for his Dreamland Blog stating that the Drones were unequivocally real. This article was then -over the course of the next 24 hours- (including the heading) morphed to completely remove all traces of his claims and leaving not a trace of his earlier assessment more the fact that it had underwent any edits at all let alone an complete reversal of it’s content.

So it’s strange that he wrote this back in July ’07 because as recently as June 2008 Whitley was espousing the reality of the Drones claiming that both he and LMH had independently verified the reality of the Drones a year prior with the use of, “Photo analysis.”


"Last summer, the so called "drones" appeared. Linda Moulton Howe and I soon confirmed that the photographs were real, both by what photo analysis could done, and by numerous interviews with witnesses, many of whom were willing to go on the record with their names”


Perhaps if any further contact is made with Whitley then the above text could be quoted and he could be asked for his stance at present, although he may have to contact LMH to obtain this opinion first…

Cheers.



posted on Jan, 18 2009 @ 12:43 PM
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If we look at what he said here, and then add his subsequents statements like the it real, based and his even more revent post admitting it may have all been a big dream, and he states he has had some doozies, I think he should be asked what are the reults of his investigation, and opinion given that Starfire, a friend, had pointed out fake, based on her/his research not to mention all the externally aachieved results from our groups.


In my next journal entry on this subject, absent intervening events, I will deal with the possibility that there are one or more hoaxes involved. But it won't come right away. It takes time for investigations like this to proceed, given the care that is needed.

www.unknowncountry.com...

Not so amazingly, he never got around to that, other than essentially retract that bizarre 'second chance" episode he now seems to recant or at least allow for a quick exit for in his post at Dreamland..how fitting.DreamLand





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posted on Jan, 18 2009 @ 01:00 PM
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Hello Siddharta, do I know you from some other forum?


I am not present at too many forums. But I once asked you by private message about your intent. I thought, it was here, but also could have been at OMF.

Anyway, I am looking forward to your story. You don't think, Kris is the hoaxer anymore, do you?



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