Originally posted by jbondo
As for the blacking out, couldn't Issac do that after the fact or am I missing a point here?

My point was he said he'd smuggled it out in chunks, which would mean it was unbound and loose since you can't get a report to fit neatly into your socks can you?

Then, if that is the case, the pages would probably be unaltered, since people forget stuff, and it'd be weird to read half way and then find a chunk blacked out.

IF he managed to somehow smuggle out a 300 page document in his pants, I want to see how big this guys is that something that unweildy and straight could fit down his pants without raising alarm.

Normally, stuff is blacked out when its moved to someone without NTK or filed, which would facilitate the binding. Why if you go to the trouble of smuggling stuff out, take a bound document with no technical details and blacked out parts?

Originally, he made no mention on who had blacked out the reports so that's why it was weird.

Can we get past the CGI or not phase !

I have posted an argument that debates the validity of any comment whatsoever about CGI.

Unless you first address that argument why bother even mentioning CGI ?

Sorry to keep banging on about the same point, just seems that the CGI advocates are ignoring it and people are still posting !

Originally posted by Springer
In Myst there is a race of scholars called the D'nai, they discovered that there language when written on the proper parchment created worlds (called "Ages" in the game). All they had to do was describe the world in writing in one of their "linking books" and it was created. If that wasn't enough, once the book was complete they could go to the world they just created by placing their hand on the linking page of the book.

Pretty striking to me. Obviously this could be pure coincidence but it's interesting none the less.

Holy crap! That is quite striking indeed!

I think you may have hit on something here Springer. Even if it's not viral marketing it still could be the basis for the story.

Give yourself 1000 pts. my good man!

Originally posted by Lamâshtu
yea i was talking about the chad et al photos ... is the exif info in the jpeg's as well?

I'm an eeeevil suspicious graduate of the Bastrd school of management, so I checked everything on links that were posted here, even on the LMH site (they were picks, she can't sensationalise them), and I couldn't find anything so they look to have been altered.

Without the originals or saves without removing it from them, no EXIF. If someone knows where saved copies of the originals are, I'll download and open em and find out if the cameras or something weird matches.

EDIT: LMH comment:

The words "Chad" and "Drone" at the beginning of my image file names are only an organizational effort for Earthfiles. I work on a Mac G-5 and re-size images for Earthfiles formats. I downloaded the Chad images from the COAST website, which I understand were also re-sized there. So, the only May 6, 2007, original images would be with Chad. Same applies to the May 5, 2007, Lake Tahoe Submitter 7013; and May 16, 2007, Capitola rajman1977 images.

So, I doubt anything remains unwell Chad posts copies somewhere else himself from his originals.

[edit on 29-6-2007 by ejsaunders]

hmmm that myst link doesn't feel hot to me as it totally wasn't about ufo's etc as far as i can remember (only played the 1st one though) ... but the symbol/language connection is still a nice find. something else i remembered was a strange book about a guy who claimed he built a machine that was still working even when he replaced the "innards" with a piece of paper with the schematics ... the whole thing was rather lunatic, i'll try to find the link of that thing.

Originally posted by Doubtful
Hi;
Just had to throw in my two cents worth.

So you're thinking it was partially an unmanned remote vehicle with a prop in the center that's CGi'd out for the pic's?

Along the "Myst" lines again, the D'nai did not understand how or why their written word created the ages (worlds) much like Isaac doesn't understand how the symbols create anti-gravity and power.

Regarding the report:

Isaac says in his "intro" that he snuck the documents out 20 pages at a time so as not cause suspicion of bulging clothes.

I guess he took the papers to Kinkos and had them bound after he snuck them out.

Springer...

Wow guys!

After Springers revelation and looking at those Myst symbols from Hii, I think this may be getting close!

yeah it does read alittle bit like Iaasac is a fan of the Myst game and perhaps spawned some of his inspiration for the current story from that source....?

Originally posted by ejsaundersonly mentions Adobe Photoshop Elements

very odd for someone as good at cg to use elements instead of the real photoshop (i personally hate elements with a a passion)

This is the alphabet. There are characters that look EXACTLY like ones from other games and the ones from the Chad photos.

I respectfully disagree, the characters look NOTHING like the Chad photo symbols, nor does the Myst alphabet create a match. I have been studying the symbols for some time now and myself and several others researching this have still failed to find a common matching alphabet for these symbols. The Isaac pictures are the first clear exact matches we have with the Chad photos.

I can find flaws on this CGI render all day...

Originally posted by Springer

I can't help but notice that the CARET site was started last Friday and Ghost Raven started posting here at AboveTopSecret.com, you guessed it, last Friday.

Is there a connection?

Springer...

Hmmmmm - that is pretty ironic about the date, definitely makes you wonder.

Way too much weird stuff going on lately!

S

Originally posted by Springer
Isaac says in his "intro" that he snuck the documents out 20 pages at a time so as not cause suspicion of bulging clothes.

I guess he took the papers to Kinkos and had them bound after he snuck them out.

Dat's exactly what I mean mate. Someone who's making a well packaged hoax would bind it to give it authenticity (along with page# even though he's giving it to us out of context and numbering), but then wouldn't think about his probably pre-written backstory of 20 pages a time.

The thing has been bound somewhere for it to have fold creases on the edges of the copies, so who bound it and why?

I suppose if it was originally bound and he copied it in work and THEN took them out, but either I remember him saying he didn't/couldn't or he did it outside of 'work' so that gimps that up.

Anyone got free longdistance calling? We could call all the 'docshops' and find one who remembers binding some 'weird alien #' for some dude!