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[HOAX] Isaac CARET - Drones [HOAX]

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posted on Aug, 18 2008 @ 02:20 PM
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But where does this evil stop..?
was this discussed already, on the chad Photo. I dont think Mars is referring to the panda bears.
Date August 18l. 2008 Theparacast.com. I just went over there to leave a nice message to Mars why did he disappear on us and ask him if he was on an NDA with Linda and the Pis.
After all. we remember his indignation at the Bakersfield info Linda was fronting. He knew the area. The location. Then when the PIs came Pfft.
he disappeared, almost like a witness. I suspected he was Tom who emailed DRT. We never heard again after that.
However in May 2008 he posted this at yes again, TheParacast.com, a very good website I might Add, and one of my favorite net stops!!




In reference to the 'Drone story' does anybody know where I can find information or links- on the reference in earlier post to HALO...? allegedly a CGI Drone that may have been used in the Chad/Drone photos that now are showing to not be so accurate from where he(Chad) posted the locations..such as the Bakersfiled,CA photo..now found to be a 'reversed' photo taken in the Santa Cruz Mountains near Los Gatos,CA.off of Hwy 17.


hmm what caught my attention was the word "reversed". is this old news or new news. I am sure this is not the camera phone he is talking about.
Also, if the Pis are not under LMH control, why did he suddenly stop the remarks of indignation and outrage on behalf of the UFO community against her? as he did before.
MarsAve Last Year september 2007 at TheParacast.com

The reason I write this, is to fight the fraud specialist( pranksters as db calls them) I don't like being lied too,,and I want people to know you may be caught! Isaac's letters now, to me, are all BS - very good, but all BS-even though I defended it on earlier posts- on other threads - I am really pissed at myself for not going up here when I 1st saw the photos. ---------My photos are real!

Bravo Mars, Bravo!..Hmmm very interesting hyphens you have there Mars...

back on topic..
Could it be he is on an NDA now? and that covers anything said about her and the PI's ? because she in effect has control.

No money..no control..he can speak. No can speak..he paid and under control
Thank you Fu Man Chu..
Was our friend and staunch advocate and defender of the realm, essentially paid off or retained undercover as "a consultant" ? All manner of legitimate ways to do it. The effect is the same..silence.
I hope he can now take up my standing invitation to come and clear the air.

You be the judge












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posted on Aug, 18 2008 @ 03:10 PM
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let me pause for some breath here..



posted on Aug, 19 2008 @ 03:33 AM
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Just for the records and for the interested readers here:

My fortunecity-site was taken down, because Jonathan Nolan, the lawyer from Australia, has sent a cease and desist notice to fortunecity.

Since he was only a side note in my text and mainly only mentioned, because of the actions Doghead took here, until he was banned, I asked him for a comment.

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posted on Aug, 19 2008 @ 08:06 AM
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Only because I dont want to sidetrack this thread do i not post the u2us he sent me concerning how he planned to disparage another member here out of personal revenge , lure members at his dismal microsite website which I will not dignify with a name.
Suffice it to say, he lied about having a witness to the Isaac affair, costing valuable time in the search for the hoaxters.
Suffice it to say, we have all kinds of animals that jumped on the Isaac bandwagon. Some of them not very nice people.
Suffice it to say. this search continues undeterred and more amused than annoyed.
Sys
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posted on Aug, 19 2008 @ 11:53 AM
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At least he has nothing against my text at all.

He says, I participated in actions that led a friend of his to fear that his wife would be stalked and this is a case for the FBI and AFP and he does not want to correspond with me.

Looks more like the revenge for Doghead...



posted on Aug, 19 2008 @ 12:54 PM
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Originally posted by Siddharta
At least he has nothing against my text at all.

He says, I participated in actions that led a friend of his to fear that his wife would be stalked and this is a case for the FBI and AFP and he does not want to correspond with me.

Looks more like the revenge for Doghead...


As he says he is not the "damaged party" only his friend could ask it to be removed or have a cause of action . Maybe he is representing his friend I cannot send letter to someone and say my firnd is scared or his wife wont sleep with him because of what you wrote. if he is not named in the complaint. I remember him posting a threat to me too saying he just finished stopping a stalker, perhaps he meant bill collectors or unhappy investors. who knows.
Yes let him FBI and API you. Its called a frivolous complaint. They do not take kindly to that.
I would not even correspond further. You did all good faith and meet reasonable man standards . He was a member of OM and had ample to to say something .
We cant resolve it here for obvious reasons, and especially after the email I sent you.
Perhaps we are close to something for this kind of over reaction that we missed.
He deleted my account but I copied everything months ago there and here.
www.wave.net...

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posted on Aug, 19 2008 @ 03:38 PM
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I hate to post the same things in two differnet forums, but in this case I do:

"We did not see what could be considered defamatory either, but we were
threatened with legal action if we did [not] remove the content.

Regards
The FortuneCity Team

P.S. it is *definitely* a hoax, and Linda Moulton Howe has made a fool of
herself again.




posted on Aug, 19 2008 @ 06:12 PM
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Originally posted by Siddharta
I hate to post the same things in two differnet forums, but in this case I do:

"We did not see what could be considered defamatory either, but we were
threatened with legal action if we did [not] remove the content.

Regards
The FortuneCity Team

P.S. it is *definitely* a hoax, and Linda Moulton Howe has made a fool of
herself again.



He, he, I don’t like to cross post either, but…….



Anyway Sidd, and on a slightly more serious note make sure you keep a copy of the notification of takedown email and the follow-up as well as the latest correspondence with the ‘blunder from down under’ as it’s better to be safe than sorry…..


Cheers!!



posted on Aug, 19 2008 @ 06:35 PM
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The legend-in-his-own-mind will get his meds straightened out, and things will be fine. Man, this mess attracts more nutjobs than Area 51.



posted on Aug, 19 2008 @ 08:41 PM
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using intuition what do you think taking the letters as functions not phonetic expressions. Which is what Isaac said. Thinking back to Arthur and Tai chi, I used Tang soo which are the Korean hyungs I recognized in a few of letters. Taich chi also linked has its own. Each function would be like up down spin reverse, like most craft. Thanx Vigilio for the alienware type setup at top That would be an arbitrary assignment. This must be for functions I believe, just like the Tai forms Just speculating of course.





www.natkd.com...
www.natkd.com...
www.youtube.com...

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posted on Aug, 19 2008 @ 08:49 PM
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Well, ARCadians,

With all of this international participation and legal intrigue, it's probably time for the United Nations to get involved, right?

Then we surely will see everything FUBAR.

Wait; sounds like a scenario from the Whit's 2012 doomsday opus.



posted on Aug, 19 2008 @ 08:55 PM
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Hey Klat! ..yeah amazing stunt,,that backfired in more ways than one.
Say do you know a deer creek restaurant in saratoga..this would be perfect!
Let me get that right now!

maps.google.com...,-95.677068&sspn=64.67277,88.945313&ie=UTF8&t=h&attrid=&ei=ZEyrSK nGOqTIigH2ka2mAg&view=map
trying to compare pavement on helipad and tarmac..they look similar.
restaurant is in los gatos. Is that far from you?
I';; chip in for gas..let me know hat it is I use paypal or can wire. this might be interesting if you measure and check out the poles nearby! They have a reward out to..what the heck..Droneonline asked for help.






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posted on Aug, 20 2008 @ 09:05 AM
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So the Chad Location looks pretty busy highway wise for those who see the google link. Nice greasy spoon for truckers , helipad for lumber jacks moving trees I guess. And Chad said he saw drone eight times, plus four headaches from this location. None of the bar patrons seemed to have seen anything Hmm. And The camera pix were also taken behind the Restaurant by Chads wife. Nothing so far is consistent except the inconsistencies.


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posted on Aug, 22 2008 @ 01:03 AM
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Inconsistancy not only by witness reports but by people who make much adoo about an unbiased investigation that is bent on extending this hoax not solving it.
The chad pic below shows how clear and accessible it is from the highway, as well as that nifty helipad. We all know chad and his pregnant wife claimed it was at tahoe, yet the facts here show otherwise, san jose in fact. So now we have bad photos, lying witnesses, and add salt to the wound , fibbing investigators, who told us the area was difficult , dirty dark and scary paths,
dogs and drug lords. But the photos from google show otherwise. They claim the restaurant owner was lonely and unfriendly but he took their picture, and conversed with them during their two trips there.

Yes I see the sheer terror and trepidation in thir faces as they think about going down those "dark and dirty paths".
While there they did not look for a telephone poles, yet it was a PSEG MarsAve. the man that got them the location. It seems to be a pretty straight shot that Santa Cruz Hwy.
Who has disappeared from the scene, possibly concerned for his "privacy", his Loved ones, dog or pet parakeet. Who knows.yet he sure enough jumped on and off the scene quickly.

Now..
what is even more interesesting is this seems to be near the same area googled by WT WROTE in Apriil, who although from Germany or Netherlands was able to stumble upon the picture below of a telephone pole and lamp
which seemed also close to where a hiking area is that TY took off Black Road off of santacruz Hwy. this only 5.5 miles away from the Deer Creek restaurant of Chads pix.
Oddly.The same Chad location is 14 miles from where Rajinder was traced to an Elan Village. Still being looked into.
I said to myself, gee..thats neat.
So I plugged in the rest of the sightings to see how they work out.
This is a lot more fun than counting pixels isn't it?




A here is the REST and B is the telephone pole of of Santa Cruz.



The letters here on the chart.correspond to that Raj address report , WTs find , Restaurant etc. Note capitola and tahoe are way off, and rest in line almost. I would knock off the Basin and tahoe search , and concentrate right where that stretch of line is.

In just a hours work in the last couple of days, more was shown that the last 12 months by paid pros and Helpers of the DRT.
If you dont see it yet. You never will.
So I am posting now, even though its a work in progress, so hopefully someone can pick up a piece and run with it..or add and help me explain the pattern here.
Thank you





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posted on Aug, 22 2008 @ 04:58 AM
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This is really more fun then pushing pixels for presentation....But one thing that I do have to point out is the telephone that you posted looks a bit different then the raj pole....But I do have a funny feeling that it can be found around that road somewhere...


One thing that has bugged me thou..The talk of all these accusations from (you know) has any pictures been taken of the Pot Farmers gardens..Thats the biggest accusation in any of this.....Not only that but an unnecessary one....Should have focused more on the patio and that treeline and the helipad then some farmers.....This has always bugged me.....
Even on the restaurants site someone commented on a CHP sitting on the side of the road...I wonder if that CHP had seen anything odd and do they sit by the restaurant.....Were they there for the drones...Why has no-one seen these since then if they were so frequent......hmmmmmm

Yes I know that is old stuff but just still bugs me...



posted on Aug, 22 2008 @ 08:35 AM
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Hi CF yeah, I had meant to say that I checked that pole at when I first got it from WT and it did not check out. But Ther are a few more, that could be within that area. They are not as numerous as one would think. That was interesting about chp as they are assigned areas of coverage in most jurisdictions. So that chp would know the area well and know of any weird reports. Police, including Hwy patrol. get them all the time. Good observation there!


I was curious why PIs did not inquire further of the lonely bartender owner who perhaps by virtue of being Iranian would be familiar with anyone of Indian or middleastern extraction like say Raj or chad visiting and taking pictures behind his establishment.
I know I get joyous when I see my own kind along my travels.Now, just by coincidence the owners name means proof-reason in English, without saying his name outright. He must live right there as no other address is available with his name. If he is there all the time, then the likelihood Chad took the photos without being seen really diminishes. and that our lonely man may know something increases proportionately.


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posted on Aug, 22 2008 @ 07:52 PM
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So it is nearly unanimous that not only the PIs and DRT investigator above were lacking in people skills, critical, which one needs if one is going to be a succesful PI or conduct a succesful interview, but severely lacking in what what we here at ATS are famous for and have in abundance, ArmChair Research Skills. Had they spent a little more time "bonding"with the" Lonely Bartender", they might have discovered what the unusual reaction to the Drone pictures was when first presented to him. Maybe, he had seen that before. I don't know. After all, he is just a lonely man, with slow business, who besides hosting an incomplete website, is an artiste in culinary foods, such as a "mean leg of lamb", and supporter of one CHP motorcycle cop, , may also be a closet case Thespian (nothing to do with Lesbian,). After all, even Cops, marijuana farmers, the bread and butter of Californias badlands, Hikers and bikers, all enjoy good food, and theatre too.
www.svcn.com... nytimes article theatre in the mountains

So the area is not only responsible for inspiring the "The Birds" but thinking of ways to attract business and culture to the lonely "Mountain "People.
It is at least worthy to look closer here as we can look at groups like this. This is not an accusation, because that cadaver on the stage, looks like it was very well fed, but the head could have been done better.

As for the lonely mountain man, remember that that mountain people are proud, and very sensitive to reviews, and stays current with what is said about their business. Thanxs Radi for the link, at least we know also he is computer literate and can be very entertaining.
Here is a sample negative review followed by the Man from Deer Creeks own
unbiased review.
www.yelp.com...




Woohoo is right. FF is is gifted with many talents besides loneliness , maybe even on par with the DRT. A well deserved and self given 5 stars!

And we still Have MarsAve to hear from, who knew this area like the back of his hand, who if you read all his posts at theparacast.com forum described how the BB flowers part was phony as he was there himself, and it was a 200 ft drop and weeded edge. Who told everyone and took the PIs himself to these parts. Who having been or known pseg people, decades of experience in aircraft photography, said no way the poles were right, but in small place like Capitola could be found if it existed, as those type terminal poles, were on st not pvt property. But we let the French and English, tell us what and how and where, our American poles should be like, and tell American PIs where to look for them, and where not to look for them.

This man by himself could have once the chad, Raj, Stephand other spots confirmed, put an end to this nonsense.
Yet NO ONE from either camp is curious !!why is that..I am only one yelling here , but someone needs to hear, and its time for DRT to disclose whether or not they have financial arrangement with LMH and Whitley or a straw men acting on their behalf!

Only one of two things stopped Mars, a gun or money. It was not regard for privacy!, He was a man of principles, and even balanced on ufology


forum.theparacast.com...

and I no doggone well it wasn't a gun. He is still posting as of recently .

Lets's get Really Real here and demand an answer!













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posted on Aug, 23 2008 @ 12:12 AM
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He he! Good stuff Sys.

I once ran across an eBay seller who had a poor feedback rating. He was selling something or other that I was pretty interested in, and in such circumstances the price can be quite good as most folks are afraid to bid. I think of it as low stakes gambling, since I never bid very high on anything. Anyway, I did a pretty thorough job of scanning his feedback, and lo and behold I discovered he had been replying to negative comments in a way that might make an idiot think it was the unhappy buyer saying everything was okay now, meant to leave positive, what a great guy sorry for the confusion, and so on like that. I filed a complaint about his feeble attempts at subterfuge anyway. The reply I got gave me the idea that eBay decided to leave his nonsense up just to let everyone know what kind of "trading partner" he was! No, I did not bid on his stuff.

Who knows, maybe it's someone we all know...



posted on Aug, 23 2008 @ 12:57 AM
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Hi Double, yeah I caught a guy doing that on Ebay and then he blocked his feedback from view!
First there was "where is American Shirley ", which you made famous, and Now "where is the American Pole..bring us the American Pole!!"


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posted on Aug, 23 2008 @ 09:43 AM
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As always Sys good stuff....What I find interesting is the PIs were standing on the helipad..Did they ever turn around and notice the tree-line behind them..Did they notice and take pictures....Do the others have these pictures but did not reveal them and keep them in the drawers with the witnesses.....

Also this might explain why the drones like the bar.
...From the link you posted from one of the reviews..


The walls were indeed covered in distorted images of food; like what aliens might think humans would find appetizing.


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