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[HOAX] Isaac CARET - Drones [HOAX]

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posted on Jul, 13 2008 @ 01:56 AM
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For the record, I am not the hoaxer. I do, however, have an idea of whom the hoaxer may be. Considering the initial quality of the renders versus later renders, I picture a student in a game and/or video production program. I believe the craft and the renders were created in LightWave. I believe that if you look at VTC's LightWave 3D 9 Tutorials at:

www.vtc.com...

and look at the first tutorial (for free) entitled "LightWave Defined" you will see the inspiration for the drone. Watch the video in it's entirety while looking at the mesh and take it one step further in your mind with an eye towards creating the drone.

Hope it helps!




posted on Jul, 13 2008 @ 01:58 AM
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Arrrrrrgh!

Did I lose my post?

Edited to add: weird, it took a double post to show up....

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posted on Jul, 13 2008 @ 02:27 AM
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Thats that app that I am leaning towards...Looking at the pict compare that I posted a few pages back that arm also looks similar to the hoax drone for one...It has the same bend in it among other things..



posted on Jul, 13 2008 @ 04:34 AM
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i do not understand your logic at all. in C4D, if you place a light above to create a shadow below, you then have to go to work to make highlights NOT appear. For every light you add to the scene, there will automatically be a new highlight from the reflection of that light in the surface of whatever you are rendering. The highlights are automatic. But with traditional photagraphy and physical manipulation of the environment, it is quite easy to achieve shadows without corresponding highlights to source them to. you dont sound like an expert, you sound like someone who loves his maya program.



posted on Jul, 13 2008 @ 10:06 AM
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Originally posted by CFandM
reply to post by rwiggins
 


Thats that app that I am leaning towards...Looking at the pict compare that I posted a few pages back that arm also looks similar to the hoax drone for one...It has the same bend in it among other things..


There’s certainly a couple of striking similarities there…..



Cheers.



posted on Jul, 13 2008 @ 11:47 AM
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I agree Doc
I think ,as my nemesis Doghead, once said "behooves" us to go back a bit to page 21 when 11 11 spf33 and others, where the cgi maya mentalray and lightwave possibilities were mentioned, along withe the following pictures posted 6-27, time of release, by wildone from a cgi book, letters were added, and see who said what. I believe it was spf33 who said no it wasn't lightwave, , but I could be incorrect, but ovnis seems to quote him in french to that effect iff you google spf33 and lightwave, as well as 3dguru forums.

Probably a lot of the very technical discussions privy to by our current specialists took place back then, so I knw we can find something helpful to the answer we seek. Thats the benefit of not having a million threads on topic. As for reflectivity issue that is good, why didnt the shiny black objects, on white background, reflect more of the flash or overhead lights, if it was a photo. 11 brung excellent points. So if 1111 and rw helped on ourside, who is left who did not..?
Lodgical an OTF friend split way back



www.abovetopsecret.com...


EPO has locked the thread called the prob with DRT.. .. odd, I never saw him in many of the discussions, guess someone called in a favor



To be fair here, I hope, sp was most fond of using 3dmax and maya, the one instance i saw any mention of lightwave was back in 2004 at the viseocard forum where he had posted about a conversion of a videocard to a high end one ,a quadro. Same thing I happened to have done a while ago with the same card. in the tests he ran there were these mentions of the software he ran thru it.

Posts: 48
Location: Chicago
Videocard: EVGA 512-P2-N635-AR Geforce 7950GT
Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield
Mainboard: EVGA 122-CK-NF68-AR (p24)
Memory: CORSAIR XMS2 TWIN2X2048 8500C5
Soundcard: Creative X-FI XtremeGamer FPS
PSU: Tagan TG700-U25 ATX12V / EPS12V 700 12-02-2004, 11:00

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

6800gt:

---------- SUM_RESULTS\3DSMAX\SUMMARY.TXT
3dsmax-03 Weighted Geometric Mean = 13.60

---------- SUM_RESULTS\CATIA\SUMMARY.TXT
catia-01 Weighted Geometric Mean = 8.256

---------- SUM_RESULTS\ENSIGHT\SUMMARY.TXT
ensight-01 Weighted Geometric Mean = 11.43

---------- SUM_RESULTS\LIGHT\SUMMARY.TXT
light-07 Weighted Geometric Mean = 5.690

---------- SUM_RESULTS\MAYA\SUMMARY.TXT
maya-01 Weighted Geometric Mean = 15.66

---------- SUM_RESULTS\PROE\SUMMARY.TXT
proe-03 Weighted Geometric Mean = 11.95

---------- SUM_RESULTS\SW\SUMMARY.TXT
sw-01 Weighted Geometric Mean = 10.50

---------- SUM_RESULTS\UGS\SUMMARY.TXT
ugs-04 Weighted Geometric Mean = 4.345






But..."if the shoe fits..wear it..




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posted on Jul, 13 2008 @ 06:18 PM
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Originally posted by DrDil
There’s certainly a couple of striking similarities there…..




And those proportions... Did only compare it to one yet....




posted on Jul, 13 2008 @ 06:42 PM
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greatlakes,

The font used in the body of Q486 is most likely Palatino, as determined by a rigorous 28 point battery administered with the assistance of identifont.com (the results are displayed here). It was designed by Hermann Zapf in 1948, and was in wide use by both the DoD and private sector in all manner of available print hardware. The font bears a close resemblance to Book Antiqua, however, which is a Microsoft adaptation of the Zapf design, which may or may not have been available in the mid '80s. I'd very much like to see if anyone can determine which it is for certain. They're notoriously difficult to tell apart.

In either case, both fonts are common in today's word processors. Even if this Isaac hoaxed the entire event, he may have selected a historically consistent font by mere mistake.



posted on Jul, 13 2008 @ 06:58 PM
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I'm really enjoying the new people commenting on very old posts.

It makes me wonder..



posted on Jul, 13 2008 @ 07:07 PM
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Originally posted by ALLis0NE
I'm really enjoying the new people commenting on very old posts.

It makes me wonder..


Yes, that's funny, how they jump in. Maybe that is the Titor-effect. People from the future never know, where they land...



posted on Jul, 13 2008 @ 07:10 PM
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Wecome demento, I see you are new and thank you for that information, it had been answered about the next page over. www.abovetopsecret.com... or page 5, this is page 370

To get where we are at you have to click and that little arrow next to the last page.. But that site like the linotypesite is useful.
for future hoaxes, so I will add it to the library. Thank you.

Titor, yes..I am very anxious to recontinue that one..and Commander rutledge too. But larry haber the titor lawyer is an avid avid Timetravel buff, with his own studio as a drawing board and production facillity, and a retirement village called Celebrity right near Disneyland, perhaps for all those time travelers he is expecting. Imagine that.



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posted on Jul, 13 2008 @ 08:00 PM
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Maybe reading some HG Wells should be required reading before time traveling...



posted on Jul, 13 2008 @ 08:11 PM
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I know, it is a litle bit off topic now, but it is time, to tag you as friend, so Allis0ne doesn't have so many trouble with his studies on who is who.

To confuse him again, I also put him on my friends list. Thus I continue my old politics taming the fox.

Okay, back to the topic! (I am going to bed now anyway.)



posted on Jul, 13 2008 @ 09:35 PM
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Your Motion Sidd, is seconded and approved. Welcome to ARC Cf and All. I must compliment All on his focus and alertness, , I am reminded of the lesson that a young snakes venom is deadlier not because it is more potent, but because he uses it all up in one bite, and later dies before it can replenish it, unable to defend itself against a predator.
Live long and prosper



And now before I retire for bed too..another mufon bedtime story.
this one posted TODAY fresh..yes fresh from 30 years ago.


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as my friends and I were walking out of a local mall, something made me turn around and look up. I then alerted my 4 friends to look up. We were in awe. Right above us was, what appeared to be a UFO. It was silent and hovering over our heads. We continued to watch while the object silently and slowly exited the area. As we got into the car to leave we were all in shock. WE continued on the highway looking upward in the sky. We noted all kinds of activity in the sky by this time it was dark. We had all seen airplanes in the sky before but this seemed to be diferent. Lights were moving with great speed from one point to another. To this day 30 years later the experience stays with me, I am convinced that what we saw that day was indeed a UFO. During a conversation with my fiancee's brother in law he had mentioned that around that year he was coming home from work one morning when he had seen a u.f.o. just over the tree tops, stop his vehicle and looked directly up,stood there for a few moments,and then watched the object move quietly away just over the tree tops. This took place over rt 44 in Ashford,Ct. And this object he said was huge, and silent.


Well I can attribute this to premarital jitters of anything


Read the next one below it at mufon, 40 years.. along with some milk and cookies, its just like reading the cornflakes box while eating your cereal. Those were the days
Good night.



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posted on Jul, 14 2008 @ 04:46 AM
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Thank you Sid that sounds like a plan...I have also put you on my friends list...



Thank you Sys for the second motion and inclusion in the ARC..

Is there a ceremony or initiation or do I just need to run around the computer a couple of times waving my hands in the air FREAKING OUT..


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posted on Jul, 14 2008 @ 05:58 AM
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I, as semiunofficial ombudsman for the ARC, warmly welcome our new members!

We do however have an official game that all new inductees must play:

It is called

"Ringoleavio"

Ringoleavio is one of the simplest games imaginable: an "us against them" struggle between two teams: one team plays the hunters, the other, the hunted.

(Source: streetplay.com/wiki/index.php?title=Ringoleavio)

This became the official ARC game after we considered "Marco Polo" and it was deemed NOT to posess...I dunno, just not enough character.

OK gang: Suit up, grab your choice of graphics engines...

Let the games begin - Damn the ray trace, full speed ahead!!!



posted on Jul, 14 2008 @ 09:49 AM
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Sorry if my posting grates on anyone's nerves. I stumbled across the drone photos on Friday, and I spent all of a weekend at work trying to figure this one out on my own. I think I understand how the forums work. I see now that my comment didn't really add anything to the debate, but I in no way expected this thread to approach 400 pages. If I'm to catch up with every topic before I add my input, I'll be reading myself blind.

That said, I haven't read the last 350 pages or so. Maybe this thing's been completely debunked by now. I don't know. I just wanted in on the fun.



posted on Jul, 14 2008 @ 11:32 AM
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You will not miss out on that for sure demento. We are looking for the hoaxter. We are passed the hoax point. Anything else we get towards that we just archive in several places like my profile, or Dr.dils he is the master Archivist, ufo-blog.com... and has kept this convoluted history understandable , clear, and straight. But if you click on my profile, just scroll briefly to see why we arrived at hoax, besides just the photos. It will help you see the origins, if not swiping, of ideas from the past. Long scroll, but beats 300 plus pages. You can also go to the drt forum, and see their side of it.



@Sid, I did find that quote again from SPf33so we dont veer away from the issue at hand.

very nice!
it's making me want to do a new 3d model based off the capitola object. the model that i've been messing with, and saladfingers unless he's tweaked it, is
from rwiggins and it's based off the chad object.


@rwiggins you have some of the most outstanding posts I've ever seen.
little wonder spf33 said he wasn't coming back..We wouldn't have allowed that inconclusive result they so desperately want, and even now prepare excuses in the event, hpo solid one does not go their way. It reminds me of the thief, who when casing a house, looks not first for the entry, but his exit from the house.. And what a den of thieves that has become, but Spf33 runs not out of fear for himself, no cowardice here, but to protect one close to him even in the face of a losing proposition., is my thinking









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posted on Jul, 14 2008 @ 08:59 PM
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Its been an uneventful day at mufon, and elsewhere, yet deception never takes a break.

Perhaps the DRTs last Top Gun Jim, aka Knowhow, can help them salvage "something" of the nonsense, there being no witnesses, parts floating about etc., . As we know from the record, he didnt seem very pleased with the Lap, but did love the craft, and as as VP of smelting factory, or something that sounded like that, he commisioned his own CAD study, and put in speculation on top of speculation, ala LMH, questionable sighting after questionable sighting, as if sheer volume will make a case. At one point throwing in even Edgar Cayce if I am not mistaken. Well, even though he gifted his thesis to OM, the believers were somewhat cautious to say the least, as they were even more with Lev in the beginning.

DR.KNOWHOW

With Satan and Nonsense at ones side , and no other comfort appearing on the horizon, why not?

DRT LOOKING GRIM
Lets make up a story now, lets brainstorm, how would you get around a final HPO solid model finding ?why thats easy..its in the material, exotic nano material composites of plastic and God only knows what other dreadful and unpleasant substances , that affect the perception, as well as gravity. Yes, because of the field so when photographed, everything is centered, but the camera is fooled. To hell with light and shadows.


Well how about the writings, they are different on each ship? well Jim has given it careful thought, and suggested, as best we could decipher, its a UN operation! on American soil, made of of many countries, with lettering that we can all distinguish what country it came from, the fact only Aliens can read is irrelevant. But that means the writing is for reading and identification, not activation!

In my book, they just took a giant stepfoward, letters are for reading.
So Thankfully, Isaacs and his LAP has found its rightful niche , in the trash.
Such things are necessary, when doing life saving surgery.

Yes, the craft can be acclimated for profitable book sales , as in either disclosure, with the DRT having a common mission, of being the contact point, our ambassadors. especially after that Jefferson airplane crash, not many survivors after that one.
or how about to the NWO, that really is a nice fit as well, the UN is always associated with the beast, even the "bible thumper"s can find a seat in here!,
crop circles? no lets let that one go, its toooo played out ever since the ARC trashed that one.

Yes, follow knowhow, keep brainstorming With him, there is a glimmer of hope. Just make up the usual gobbledgook, a few charts and drawings, maybe a youtube , and stick with it, with a straight face .


The real challenge is , will WE be able to keep a straight face?


Make sure you have a living will made out Ike,
and from all of us here at ATS RIP.











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posted on Jul, 15 2008 @ 12:57 AM
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sys and friends all of you are wrong, the drones are real, I have proof, I have pictures and manuals from a friend name isaac, look my friend, when you see them on local tv and when you see them with your own eyes, like I have, believe me, you'll sh**t on your own pants,
Just kidding now that you busted this hoax sys, are you going to Disneyland



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