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Originally posted by Double_Nought_Spy
All of this stuff would be moronic enough if we didn't have Kris's images and videos. He has proven beyond any reasonable doubt that the photos could have been done on someone's computer. With no evidence of any sort to back up the photos, they prove nothing. They do not need to be debunked. They are not even photos of UFOs unless you define UFO as Unclaimed Fake Object. All this chasing of tails over images that have no provenance and no substantiation is lame and embarrassing. The truth is to be found with the people here, just like in any paranormal case. They will eventually be found. As long as we keep feeding these trolls, they will continue to distract us, which is likely the point in the first place. Let them and their audience of three or four half wits have their little fantasy. They make fools of themselves without anyone else's help anyway.
Originally posted by onthefence55
Issue 2: Once again this "11 11" person assumes that the craft is parallel to the ground.
Originally posted by onthefence55
I am not the keeper of Brent, or Chad, or Raj. So I cannot answer for them, can you?
Originally posted by ALLis0NE
p.s. Have a nice humiliating hoax.
Originally posted by onthefence55
Originally posted by CFandM
Just a couple of thoughts....There are plenty of ways to modify the Exif data..
Agreed, many possibilities exist.
Also do you know for sure that a camera was even involved
No. Does anyone know that a camera was not involved?
Then the compositing issue that I posted.
Do you have a diagram with larger lettering? The description text is quite small.
Also, please use the original images, rather than running them through interpolation re-scaling. The re-scaling you used performs averaging and makes detail where there was none.
Originally posted by Springer
Just a pitiful example IMHO... But then, I don't need these fake drones to be real...[edit on 6-7-2008 by Springer]
Originally posted by Siddharta
And abscence of witnesses, and absence of drones... How much absence are you going to accept, and how many explanations do you have in your drawer, to explain all the holes in every single story?
YOU are claiming the extraordinary and you are trying to prove it with a nice model made out of hard paper. 11 11 was quite close, when he reckoned the time, the photo was shot. But he was wrong with everything else?
Kris' demsonstrations are also very convincing. Are you rather following the little devil, who says Kris is manipulating people and it is not, as Kris says, because he just says so?
Where is Bren, btw? Gone with the wind? Where are Chad and Raj, where is Jack Sahakian? Why did the DRT not join Arthur, who was searching for young intelligent people?
This DRT forum was created for the discussion of the reality of the drones.
Other forums exist for hoax discussion.
This is a research forum ... not meant for opinions. You agree, through your use of this forum, that you will not post any material which is false, defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, adult material, or otherwise in violation of any International or United States Federal law. ......
Originally posted by murnut
reply to post by Siddharta
When you go to register at the DRT site...you must agree to this in particular
This DRT forum was created for the discussion of the reality of the drones.
Other forums exist for hoax discussion.
This is a research forum ... not meant for opinions. You agree, through your use of this forum, that you will not post any material which is false, defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, adult material, or otherwise in violation of any International or United States Federal law. ......
Fair and balanced...yeah right
No opinions allowed except approve opinions.
Sounds like a cult
Originally posted by onthefence55
@ Siddharta
I don't see any holes that require filling. I see some questions that we are ALL searching answers to.
@ But he (11 11) was wrong with everything else?
What else, nothing up there that I did not already explain away. I've read all his stuff before, you care to point something specific out?
@ Kris' demsonstrations?
IMO CGI is made of pixels on a screen, CG software can put pixels on a screen. Believe what you will, I believe that given enough time, any artist can create the drone images. How long do you think it would take Paul Signac to make all the drone images. I bet he is your hoaxer, oh wait, he's dead. Well, maybe he has some students or offspring that you could look up.
I am not the keeper of Brent, or Chad, or Raj. So I cannot answer for them, can you?
Why should I care about Arthur? What does he know about the drones besides the stuff that he and I both read?
Originally posted by tomiuk
I have recreated this shadow and sun angle test with a clothes drying rack..
What have you done??? Eh?? eh??