[HOAX] Isaac CARET - Drones [HOAX], page 275

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reply posted on 4-5-2008 @ 04:03 PM by murnut

I have been advise that 00 is having login problems, however he is watching and will be back as soon as problem is corrected.

With that, I am ready for duty...must study up on crop circle hoaxers

reply posted on 4-5-2008 @ 04:46 PM by Siddharta

Okay, it is very late alreday over here, but I promised some backgrounds.

Looking at all those people, who made comments, most of them were as anonymous as the witnesses. Arthur was the big exception. His background is astounding!

My simple first thought was, either somebody used his identity or he was part of the game. This is, what I wrote to him.

When he answered to me, that this was his private opinion, I really thought, I had found the source of all this.

So I said, I never thought, he would be part in this game, and I liked to join.

He surprised me, asking me, if I would take part in a research. This is how I got a member of the goup, that never took any actions.

(Take this as the first part of the story, I have to review a few things, to continue.)

reply posted on 4-5-2008 @ 05:24 PM by Siddharta

Although I am tired, I know, most of you read, when I am sleeping.

Arthur first said, that even if it is a hoax, the language had something in it, even he could not explain.
Later he told me it is about plasma.

I was invited to a yahoo group, where he had published his draft paper and later discouvered some relations to the plasma-theme.

To make it as short as possible: The works he refered to, were from Prof. George Morfill of the Max-Planck-Institute.

I introduced him to the Isaac papers and asked him for his opinion.

He politely answered, there was no connection.

This was it.

I guess, tomi found it, because I had linked to it. Obviously her memory is bad. She came as the fourth of four members to it and never participated.

Inded nobody ever participated. The second member was called Nicodemus by Arthur. Obviously there was some communication before, because four mails had been deleted, when I joined.

So we have Arthur, Nicodemus, me and tomi... That's the mysterious Arthur group. Maybe Nicodemus can tell us something.

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reply posted on 4-5-2008 @ 05:38 PM by Sys_Config

Firsat, most here new already you had mentioned the PDF at least 4 times wanting to get our attention to it. We know Tomi denied being in the group until you forced he to acknowledge. and lied also how she got as easy as drinking a soda pop.I remember you telling me your contact had been brief. So I do not look at this as any covertness, I do on Tomi, and most recently nikodemus we are now discovering. It looks like with 4 emails he knew more of what was going on than anyone.
what did arthur say when you told him no plasma connection?
I know that crop vortexes per the pdf were low energy state. Instead of physics books he referred to LMH. that was very confusing. Did she ever tell you how she was invited? or Niko? Also I remeber you saying you had got angry or something when you quit the group. Did you smell something fishy besides Tomi.

And just for kicks, did Arthur ever say thank you, this is very important..to me.

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reply posted on 4-5-2008 @ 05:47 PM by Siddharta

He did as he always did: not answer.

He only answered my mails, I sent to his workplace. And only once through the yahou group, when I said, I should write a book about the "Psychology of a hoax".

So now I am considering to write it really...

reply posted on 4-5-2008 @ 05:57 PM by Sys_Config

Originally posted by Siddharta
He did as he always did: not answer.

He only answered my mails, I sent to his workplace. And only once through the yahou group, when I said, I should write a book about the "Psychology of a hoax".

So now I am considering to write it really...

Yes He ddidnt answer mine either, even after I told Him I would storm the castle. I thought it was a fun game back then, like a mmog. Actually you made it fun for us Sid. Kept us from taking this too serious.
Thank you for sharing that...Now we know we have a little more confidence we are in the right track. As Arthur would never approach Linda, except at the behest of whitley, who did the PDF with Arthur. I saw no student input really in there, or their would be credits.It had to be input of some other kind between Tomi and Niko. I know, I have graded undergraduate research papers In biology and histology myself to tell.
I think it is time to let the reast of their members know who their DRT is.

Its time to Hangem High!! hehehehe jk

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reply posted on 4-5-2008 @ 06:00 PM by Siddharta

Originally posted by Sys_Config
Did she ever tell you how she was invited? or Niko? Also I remeber you saying you had got angry or something when you quit the group. Did you smell something fishy besides Tomi. And just for kicks, did Arthur ever say thank you, this is very important..to me.

I think you all slept at that point. I linked it at OMF and she was the only one, who was able to follow it. Then she forgot everything. That's UFOlogy nowadays...

I don't know about Nicodemus, but invite him to take his turn here.

I did not know, tomi was the fourth member, until she had to answer my questions here. She was not fishy, because she never took part in anything overthere.

If Springer and friends are interested in Arthur's opinion I would feel honoured to invite him, to come here. Better than calling anybody or let hundreds of people write emails.

reply posted on 4-5-2008 @ 06:07 PM by Sys_Config

Originally posted by Siddharta

Originally posted by Sys_Config
Did she ever tell you how she was invited? or Niko? Also I remeber you saying you had got angry or something when you quit the group. Did you smell something fishy besides Tomi. And just for kicks, did Arthur ever say thank you, this is very important..to me.

I think you all slept at that point. I linked it at OMF and she was the only one, who was able to follow it. Then she forgot everything. That's UFOlogy nowadays...

I don't know about Nicodemus, but invite him to take his turn here.

I did not know, tomi was the fourth member, until she had to answer my questions here. She was not fishy, because she never took part in anything overthere.

If Springer and friends are interested in Arthur's opinion I would feel honoured to invite him, to come here. Better than calling anybody or let hundreds of people write emails.

wonderful!! maybe a podast if he is shy, but I don't know what ever you think is best. You know I konw you know best. He is shy, is all I know.
Psst. Ask if he was engineering type, Arlington, and maybe even Jim.

Springer will work with you both 100 percent. With tomi however, if she didnt do anything, that is strange! How can they face the members with a straight face every single day and say, there is nothing to worry about. Its real. and keep this from them no wonder that forum has gone down the tubes....simply amazing.

Its late get rest
and Thank you Concilieri

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reply posted on 4-5-2008 @ 06:25 PM by spacebot

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Excellent set of links Sys as always! I never realized that people throughout history used "enchanting" of materials so much! What an amazing insight you gave me!

I will get back to this at a later time.

Was just reading your post and I won't respond fully until probably tomorrow.
We talk about lay lines and vortexes and stuff, but what use could it be for us? I mean real practical use? Using them as corridors for space travel? Use them for producing energy?
Are there more things we ought to know about them? Who else uses those if they are indeed usable?
Are we alone? If not who else is out there? What do they think of us? Do we have hints of who they might be?
What are the dangers?
Are there politics beyond human politics?
Where are we heading as a society?
Where other societies are heading if others exist out there? What is their relation with us?
Who needs us? Why are we created? Can we play a role somewhere?
Are we a building block among other building blocks of societies all participating in a grand scheme? Are we interconnected? If yes then why?
Who is expecting what from us? What should we do?
What is our future?

What did the ancients say about this all? They looked upon the stars, why?
They made thousands of myths to be passed along to our generations, why?
What is so important we ought to remember?
What was their favorite places among the stars?

Is there a place in the heavens that plays a particular role or has a connection with our earth grid? What was passed along from our predecessors?

Lets check the most prominent, The Seven Sisters, Pleiades one thing they forgot to mention here is that the majority of greek temples was orientated to Pleiades. They played major importance.
Knock knock.. who's there? Krittika krittikans

Looks childish? Yes? It might! Check major anime heroes? What they display? Features? Characteristics? What heroes our children are fond of nowadays? Are your children following the Emo fashion? Why they have to look so sad?
WTF is going on in our world, do we have a clue? Did we ever?

Do I make any sense?

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reply posted on 4-5-2008 @ 06:43 PM by spacebot

Dr Dill. I will start reading the book you mentioned tonight.
Although about antigravity research here are some of my concerns.
Many have proposed that the round saucer type craft might be ideal for researching anti gravity. But what is a round saucer type? The most simple shape someone can build, if he doesn't rely on shapes for the propulsion philosophy he uses, if he doesn't rely on shapes then he probably mastered the electromagnetic forces medium and can do whatever he wishes wherever. What if the plethora of saucer types people are witnessing are based on a philosophy of mastering EM forces with the addition of a simple carrier for passengers. The carrier might not play any significant role but the know how of the EM forces probably would.
Has this fashion to mimic round U.F.O shapes helped us in the long run? Where are the practically functioning models? Should we embark in a different journey in order to make things work? At least until we have mastered somehow the medium. Why don't we stick with shapes we know and trust and make it work?

I "offtopiced" enough for one day,

I well get back to these matters later in other threads maybe.

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reply posted on 4-5-2008 @ 06:56 PM by Double_Nought_Spy

Yikes! I dunno what that was all about, but I was somehow logged out and it's taken till now to get back in. Had to spend a whole day in the real world, looking in here at the festivities and I couldn't participate. Couldn't even get to the ignore button. But y'all didn't need my help.

I'm very intrigued with the stuff Sidd has just posted. I think if we can stay on task, we can make some headway.

Sometimes it's hard to keep the noise being blasted at us in perspective. It's really just a small bunch of groupies with very loud mouths and their priestess, and that's about it. LMH's misadventures in Brazil a few years ago dealt a heavy blow to her credibility, to the point that former associates in the UFO community started publicly commenting on it, but always were careful to give her due credit for past good works. Since the drone debacle, as far as I can tell they just stopped saying anything at all. C2C has carved out a peculiar niche, with most sensible researchers barely acknowledging its existence while they fill air time with the likes of Sean David Morton, Richard Hoagland, and assorted other cranks and crackpots. There are some really interesting people on there, and I'm always surprised that they don't run the other way instead of appearing on that show. I guess it's all in the numbers. I am not among those numbers, living so far from civilization that I can't tune in the show, no matter what radio I try. Guess I'll deal with it somehow.

Now I have some catching up to do, since it's much easier to follow the recent posts while logged in. Also, I'm working on something I'll post soon, kind of a mini psychological study of one of our friends. No, not that one! I already know too much about what goes on inside that head!

reply posted on 4-5-2008 @ 07:17 PM by Sys_Config

Welcome back Double, Yes Springer came and the roof went off the you know what..
Spacebot, don't even worry about that. we have enogh esoteric stuff consistant with the PDF and the LAP. Chill and relax! and just catch up..thats all..get a feel for the flow! and the Humanities!

Good news Klatuu found a cached page of that cropcircleexplorer, I was talking about earlier run by Rajon dot com. or J sherwood and Lucy pringles.

here is where the go into more detail about the "activating fields, and the chosen ones, (only certain chosen ones having both male female elemental qualities get picked as I understand it elsewhere but you read. Pay carefuull attention to the bottom last paragraph.
rajon.com...
if you have a website jacker by all means down load it before it disappears. Thats why I screen jacked it.
interesting read..I love its time we came out of the cupboard..get it indians in the cupboard? great humor..
Thanx klatuu, I clicked all ove the site for that..missed it..

I hope it fit..both Isaac and this fit each other very very well, so we can say yes, it was a cropcircle connection. I really don't need atto, unless he wants to join and help. I am tired of asking.

I see he is using his regular name today Nikola

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reply posted on 4-5-2008 @ 08:44 PM by Springer

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By all means Arthur is welcome here. Invite away, we can accomodate him pretty much anyway he requires. I will be very busy tomorrow so if I fail to respond to U2Us be patient, I'll get to them.

Springer...

reply posted on 4-5-2008 @ 08:51 PM by spacebot

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ahem...So whoever wrote this uses a smart conjecture to present a theory about why crop circles appear while introduces to the reader some mambo jumbo about how esoteric can be a mercedes benz sign.. while he slips in between little ceramic drone drama.
I always liked this kind of presentations.. its a little bit like how magicians focus your attention elsewhere while doing a trick.

Cute..

I suppose this helps as being evidence of something or someone in the case of the hoax, but I have not been following the detective aspect of the story.

Cool find eitherway!

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reply posted on 4-5-2008 @ 09:46 PM by Sys_Config

Its time for my quarterly report on the progress being made in the campaign against the carbon based units in the Alpha Quadrant.
during the last three months we had the stephen Tex , tenn and michican drones, PI inveestigations, Sentinel, La times, Ufo hunters,NBC thrown at us, cursing and nashing of teeth. Enough to cower any Self respecting Borg.
For each of these events there should be some dramatic upward movement in any chart, by any measure in the number of page views or hits. Our foward advance teams indicate the following

The uppermost line is Our fleet, isnt it majestic!
The next tachyon signatures c2c followed earthfiles and OM , the more formidable high signature is c2c, though ooutnumberin transmissio drives, perform punily against even our smaller ships.
There was a little bump in february with all remaining relatively flat thru April, except ours of course, when one ordinarily expects a surprise. There was nothing measureable on the OM channel and Earthfiles..as predicted, almost invisible, perhaps its a new cloaking device they have.
it could be the Carbon Based units are using subspace frquencies to transmit tactical information. between one another. Fortunately we have secured all remaining Dilythium Truth crystals for the Vger-Borg Alliance
Unless they release a deadly volley of Ty Hi rez torpedoes, simultaneously The combined federation Klingon fleet is doomed., they will be eliminated and the quadrant disinfected.

All that remains now is a mop up operation..

Transmission complete

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reply posted on 4-5-2008 @ 09:48 PM by Double_Nought_Spy

A few things mentioned on the past couple of pages remind me of the strong undercurrent in the paranormal universe that often goes by the name Trickster. I think the crop circle thing is a great example. They are not all made by people. The people who do make some of them can represent the Trickster, but then what about the paranormal things that happen near the hoaxers and happen to the hoaxers while they are busy doing their hoaxing? Are the makers of the mysterious patterns assuming the humans are trying to communicate with them? Hmmm.

Back in the 50s there were some very interesting correlations discovered between UFO activity and things like ley lines, and other things like the periodic and predictable changes in the distance from Earth to Mars, or perhaps more importantly, it seemed at the time, vice versa. These statistical correlations were uncanny. They were not the product of wishful thinking overlaid on random data, either. They intrigued the likes of Jacques Vallee to the point that they were major factors in his beginning interest in UFO activity. But what did they mean? We still don't know, because they seemed to "go away." As in vanished from the data. Trickster.

I think Trickster's name in 2007 was Isaac.

reply posted on 4-5-2008 @ 10:28 PM by Sys_Config

Fascinating Double,
If you noticed at Om the have a seismic tread, they have talked about the Fault near Big baasin, building up to yes..they Ley lines! Thats why I posted those links on the vortex. Vortexes form where ley lines intersect. theres a whole cottage industry in that alone. They use it for healing, to tie in with Feng shui, for dowsing, all little niches under neat that category. Then of course for Ufos, that these are portals to dimensions to and from. Ley lines love accumalining near faults, for whatever reasin. Its said ancient egyptians mapped there pyramids and cities according to them.
So I imagine they will find some power center that miraculously coincides with..yes the Drones or whatever they want to assign. Because of the piezo electric effects of fault lines, many lights and discharges are seen at times, even orbs. Maybe they make great powersources for real UFOs I imagine. So these places become a great place to hoax too hey mike ..Oh yeah! thats where the medicine wheel runs along or something like that. Yep. Sounds good to me. I do believe in certain power centers mind you, others might call it sacred or holy ground. Consecrated (enchanted) and people tend to obey it. and those types of gound d become in a sensed energized. If you believe in prayer, , thats a personal thing, then some of this falls in line or are easier to accept and understand. Thats why Tricksters or Hoaxters have field days with us, as we have some expectation of something occurring..like when you go to a Revival..I love the laying of hands..yes indeed. hehehe great massage man.

(and a very real meditative effect. But here we had the trickster take poses for shots.

one kewl Trickster.

There is such a fellow in many cultures.

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reply posted on 4-5-2008 @ 10:44 PM by Springer

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Sys... Did it not occur to you to add AboveTopSecret.com to your graph?! It would top ALL of the ones you did graph.

P.S. if you want REAL online nimbers try www.quantcast.com. Quantcast is VERY HARD to cheat on.

Just sayin'

Springer...

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reply posted on 4-5-2008 @ 10:49 PM by Sys_Config

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Sys... Did it not occur to you to add AboveTopSecret.com to your graph?! It would top ALL of the ones you did graph.

P.S. if you want REAL online nimbers try www.quantcast.com. Quantcast is VERY HARD to cheat on.

Just sayin'

Springer...

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I did think, then said naahh its overkill! ATS is so high up there its unbelievable!
Let me make some adjustments, as the still are swiping at us..so..here goes. Okey doke..done Deal..that really does look better ..yesss..much much better!
Double that was fabulous in your comments section..Judge Judy was great!

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reply posted on 4-5-2008 @ 10:58 PM by Springer

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Do the page views on Alexa, enough said mate.

Springer...

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