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[HOAX] Isaac CARET - Drones [HOAX]

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posted on Mar, 8 2008 @ 08:24 PM
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Agreed and I believe the others are or have caught on to her as well ..That is really really fascinating what you said about the nexus..
c2c is in dire straights right now..based on latest graphs..which dont lie like their pix do..
Spacebot has just provided me a fascinating clue involving the people who make the farscape series filmed in you guessed it..australia..at some point these will i believe converge..Those sci fi people are something else..and its where I lost Alex..and Mike resnick as well..at sci fi. but..LMH and c2c are pivotal..they are the release points..and they need to be plugged or flushed out.
Agreed ..also..this takes a wee bit of time..as long as they continue this mass rush with horrific interviews and phony pix..much of our work will be done actually.
I say to this bufoonery..keep it coming..give us you best "shot"




posted on Mar, 8 2008 @ 09:55 PM
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Originally posted by klatunictobarata
Hey Sys...

Still here just researching and keeping my big mouth shut.

Boy, LMH could (and should) write a legal tome entitled:
"Asked and Answered: How to Lead a Witness."

She must think we are all pathetic idiots, right? Where is the respect...the love, Linda?

I'm just waiting for the 'UFO Hunters' to dabble into the drone saga but will not hold my breath. Most all of the newish cable programs (2 UFO Hunters, Monsterquest, et al) are just fluff and entertainment and are quite laughable -Just listen to Josh's voice at crucial moments - so funny)

I am exploring an interesting nexus I have observed between LMH, Noory, Bill Birnes, and others. I used to be a longtime subscriber to UFO Magazine
and spoke to Birnes on the phone some time ago. I stopped renewing when there was more 'new age' crap than UFO substance published and the staff lost Don and Vikki Ecker's excellent writings.

I'll keep looking, if I can keep from laughing...




Welcome Klatuu great to see you..yes we are just moving like the proverbial Tortoise..and their is a finish line to all of this...
keep it up..she has some podcast recording just out of the two sister interview..like I said..keep it coming..



posted on Mar, 8 2008 @ 11:48 PM
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No I have not been disappointed from anyone or anything Sys_Config


Its just the time that I don't have and things I put on hierarchy of doing.
Lots of great info there

Take note that Farscape as many modern series do used a lot of people to get their resources from, for episode you can see different script writers or even directors. even more than one at each episode, although I'm not really familiar how they did really it in Farscape, one of my favorite sci-fi series. They can always assign jobs to external groups or studios or whatever, so don't hold them solely responsible for anything.

My new thoughts of the newest drones "sightings" shapes, forms etc, as presented here, is that I keep observing many similarities in company logos, graphic illustration for ads and similar. It seems like a very familiar site to have. The only thing I am really worried about is how they going to pull the "missing time" evidence related in every "real" ufo encounter, from the audience. I'm guessing a movie related to all that stuff and a viral marketing accompanying it probably orchestrated from many unrelated sources that will draw more "believers" from an unsuspected audience?
Did I get it this matter right?


Also I saw the "drones" as being presented like a new kind of UFO phenom from sources I expected irrelevant to that stuff, and usually very slow in catching up current trends and info, it seems those drones travel pretty fast, by an unknown underlying propulsion system
or they are just so spectacular and weird to look at at those youtube videos. Lets face it, fuzzy lights on a shaky camera that might look or not look like a UFO have become boring. Now more people appart of the common ufo buff can share the excitement offered by this new drone experience! Its half military looking half alien, could it be, could it be not. Anyways it surely draws more crowd to the ufo group IMO.

Keep it up!


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posted on Mar, 9 2008 @ 12:16 AM
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Thank you for a great post again Spacebot..and I have been canvassing the farscape and even Stargates Heliopolis for clues..and you are quite correct on that outsourcing of for props, cast, and things..And like Isaac said "believe you me" we will all be so happy to give Credit where Credit is due when the connection is made.


PS One of our member colleagues is expecting any day now. I cant divulge her name or avatar for personal reasons..but we all wish you a safe, blessed, and happy delivery!

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posted on Mar, 9 2008 @ 07:36 PM
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Originally posted by klatunictobarata on 14-8-2007 p. 167

Also, I have long been been searching online for any pictures of the primer 'language' or the long upward-projecting drone 'fingers' since I had a nagging feeling in my mind that I have seen them before, somewhere, someplace.

Then, Sunday night, I was watching the pilot or first episode of FARSCAPE on WGN and, towards the end of the episode, it was revealed to me. When Aeryn is forced to take over the manual controls of the ship MOYA, a circular control panel rotates to reveal the language that Isaac has depicted in the Linguistic primer. And, as if to reinforce the matter, at the end of the episode, when the camera pulls back to reveal MOYA's PILOT in a long shot, well, there are THREE sets of exact upside-down ‘salad fingers' we see in the drone photographs - all of them! Same shape, same curves.



Since I brought this up a long time ago, and looked all over, I was not able to afford to purchase or rent locally the FARSCAPE dvd set. I also couldn't find any available online photos of the precise scene(s).

So...if someone has the dvd's, use my recollection above as a guide, or u2u me for more details if needed.

And I agree with you all who say: FARSCAPE rules as best sci-fi show in the business (along with BSG and Serenity/FireFly). Much better than the mundane Stargate franchise IMHO.



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posted on Mar, 9 2008 @ 09:02 PM
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i'm fairly sure this comparison was made somewhere, someplace before.
can't really find any drone looking craft in the episode though.

farscape s1ep1 premiere



posted on Mar, 9 2008 @ 09:54 PM
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Great food for thought guys..!!

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posted on Mar, 10 2008 @ 12:09 AM
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Another sighting ?

More like a mosquitoe than a dragonfly as just won't go away !

Edited to add - I see attention already brought to it - apologies, I only looked on the current page.
Thanks for not calling me Mr Old News.

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posted on Mar, 10 2008 @ 12:34 AM
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Originally posted by chunder
Another sighting ?

More like a mosquitoe than a dragonfly as just won't go away !

Hi Chunder, do you mean by mosquitoes Linda or the Dragonflies?, yes when a drone dies a hundred seem to come to its funeral!

Its obvious they dont like cold weather, which is surprising as they travel in space..but if from nice warm studios..that would explain it.or there must be a nests of them thawing and hatching! Where is the exterminix man when we need him!

Perhaps this graph explains the big threes desparation
3 web sites backed up with radio stations..3 years


this tells me they need something Big Big Big..to stop the hemmoraging.
The disclosure matter with the UN was supposted to be it THE BIG ONE..that would give them fuel at least till 2009, maybe even 2013. After all, we give teachers at least 15 minutes to arrive for class late..certainly a little longer for aliens traveling trillions of miles . Its the least we would have done. Everyone at various places wanted to be on the welcome committee for the ETS, But No... someone got caught in a Little Lie, a source, and the house of cards collapsed. They are in real fix here, as this nosedive in traffic is occurring at a period of very high sightings., so there is something wrong with whatever it is they are reporting and people have seen thru all of them.

Now all they can give us are backdated (by no small amount either) mosquitoe sightings mysteriously appearing in mufon, with witnesses that describe something else even when the interviewer is leading them! (I sense a divine presence in this all of a suddenn)
You will see more and more of the same mosquitoes and their handlers.




Orkin Man where are you!











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posted on Mar, 10 2008 @ 06:03 PM
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It's all a little disappointing. My sister could tell you everything, but she wants to stay anonymous. My real name is Ernst Herbert Bürger and I am not related to my sister nor have I ever heard her name.

I dream of UFOs sometimes and I have a friend at MUFON. And I am lucky that there are not too many people who even take attention to this story at all.

I am very lucky that there are so many stupid people, saying, we are real witnesses and not realizing anything at all. This must be the endzone or the last count by numbers. It is really amazing.

Has anybody a short version of that interview? I don't want to download an hour of other people's talk. I need that real thing...



posted on Mar, 10 2008 @ 06:51 PM
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Originally posted by Siddharta
It's all a little disappointing. My sister could tell you everything, but she wants to stay anonymous. My real name is Ernst Herbert Bürger and I am not related to my sister nor have I ever heard her name.

I dream of UFOs sometimes and I have a friend at MUFON. And I am lucky that there are not too many people who even take attention to this story at all.

I am very lucky that there are so many stupid people, saying, we are real witnesses and not realizing anything at all. This must be the endzone or the last count by numbers. It is really amazing.

Has anybody a short version of that interview? I don't want to download an hour of other people's talk. I need that real thing...


No relation to Tom T Burger is it?

I just put some things in email for you Sidd..also yes there is a condensed version..

Readers Digest Summary Transcript:

Linda: what did you see?
witness:I saw exactly the same thing you and your audience didn't..
Linda: are you sure?
Witness: I swear..sort of..
Linda: #$%**&
Witness: I dont allow cursing in my house
Linda: Thats ok, I have all I need ..sort of
end of transcript..

I rented a movie yesterday to see with my family. The last Mimzy
made by infinityfilms under warner brothers.
The film came out last march on DVD. it deals with time travel, geometric symbols, esoteric stuff, the spiral included.
it was quite good for low budget and filmed in our fish capital Seattle Washington, though it says Vancouver. It did the kind of super scalar diagramming like in our lap, as well as gratuitous advertising promoting the Intel cpu from future..Pepsi and spirite soda products..But the whole movie was surprising good!

as I was about to turn it off, I noticed the credits rolling, and at the end under sound assistant was Michael Mcgee.

So he is still employed as of 3 2007 by whatever group did the sounds..some seems to have been parceled. I am still researching the companies. Yes Farscape is Australian produced also.

I am getting the feeling that our Spirals sort of borrowed the nick because of her work with this company infinity films that use the spiral as their chief Logo..
s215.photobucket.com...


So there seems to be a connection..sort of






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posted on Mar, 10 2008 @ 07:00 PM
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Mhm... Mimzy looks like an easter bunny...

I didn't like to eat rabbit, since we ate Hansi... But rabbit is not bunny, as I learned meanwhile....

I tried kangoroo, why not try mimzy?



posted on Mar, 10 2008 @ 08:16 PM
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I am really surprized that Linda MH didn't get the latest so-called witness to identify this dragonfly-like drone:






posted on Mar, 10 2008 @ 08:52 PM
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Originally posted by klatunictobarata
I am really surprized that Linda MH didn't get the latest so-called witness to identify this dragonfly-like drone:







You guys keep this up and I will have to have my giggle box removed, beforeI break my ribs laughing.
hahaha. But I am curious..just what role do our fearless leaders at Earthfiles and others play in all this. With sightings in the hundreds, the last 5 years, you have c2c and a business lawyer still pushing Titor, and Linda transposing amost a decade old sighting as a chad sighting, as in the emperors new robe, parading himself with applause, though he was naked. Just who really is disinfo here. certainly not us and others elsewhere rooting out endlessly for clues..

Klatuu I loved the farscape episode posted up..I am looking into the credits for that story as well. I just saw at pisces some poor chap looking for his money for modelling he did and emailed them. they seem to be oblivious or confused as he was, to his requests and told him to send the rest to a sourjelly dot com..which appeared to be a porno site. Good luck atomic rooster killer. he wondeered why the site appeared so dead all of a sudden. Dare I tell him? I wonder how deep is Michael Mgee and our little spirals tied up in this or is it all just freelancing. perhaps I will follow up with Chris a former colleague. anyway..this is why this is moving slowly.
The only thing I can recommend for lindas new RPG Earthfiles Assault II is a non battery operated fly swatter avaiable for less than a dollar at the local thrift stores.
enjoy



posted on Mar, 11 2008 @ 12:50 AM
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Originally posted by Siddharta
Mhm... Mimzy looks like an easter bunny...

I didn't like to eat rabbit, since we ate Hansi... But rabbit is not bunny, as I learned meanwhile....

I tried kangoroo, why not try mimzy?

I promise as much as I love mimzy, if we solve this you can make a shish ka bob out of her seasoned with our own special hot sauce!

o-o-o------

to update you on the credits..sevral outfits did several of the effects, (also on Lost, matrix revolution, etc..see Eden fx, Tweak films, Eyetronics and Giant killer Robots, the latter which suddenly I cannot find on the internet..though there were references to it..poof..gone..
as I googled, I found giant killer robots and Iron man, on the website
( now brace yourself) Elroyonline.com... a comix website.
well lets go a little deeper. I ispd it to the owner Adam "Elroy" Mazzitelli , (as other searches say he likes to be called)based in Australia. It could be just a coincidence.

Adam Mazzitelli
20 Cecil street
Kew VIC 3101
Australia

Administration Contact:

Adam Mazzitelli
20 Cecil street
Kew VIC 3101
Australia
Phone: +61.398174998
elroyel1327@netspace.net.au

Technical Contact:

Adam Mazzitelli
20 Cecil street
Kew VIC 3101
Australia
Phone: +61.398174998
elroyel1327@netspace.net.au

I believe we have at least one colleague here who lives at or near ground zero who I would love to have the honors of calling.
Good hunting all





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posted on Mar, 11 2008 @ 07:58 AM
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I tells ya, if this isn't centered out of Australia, or have some major part to play, I would be highly surprised.

What's up Sys? Yep I'm still here, just busy lately....Told ya somethin new would be moving on this subject didn't i? Guess I was right? Well some would say nothing particularly NEW, just NEW old stuff in a way...but still movement....



posted on Mar, 12 2008 @ 01:42 AM
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I tells ya, if this isn't centered out of Australia, or have some major part to play, I would be highly surprised.

What's up Sys? Yep I'm still here, just busy lately....Told ya somethin new would be moving on this subject didn't i? Guess I was right? Well some would say nothing particularly NEW, just NEW old stuff in a way...but still movement....


Yeah Im thinking on that but this was too pat. As far as this last Guy. What I was trying to accomplish is work my way to 2o12 and seeing whether the psces members that actually worked on the promotion of it..I only found faint references as grips or electricians including J. Nolan. I am not impresse3d with them at all. But as Sid said..perhaps Doghead gaveaway too much info..anyway t infinity films, may be connected or ...
What I have found is.that the pisces "claim" to House of horrors inviolved concept designer by Ian Colmes, who is still producing for release in August 2008 , the movie which Klatuu mentioned ..Anitgravity. co -produced with author Bruce Cathie .
In essence..we are in the middle of an intersection, not good. I took a 14 day free trial rto imdbpro trial. So i will have to qwork quickly, then cancel it before I get billed
But that has given me access to a lot more detail than I had before and have names now and will have to work from there.
..I dont think Mazzatelli will realy give us anything relevant.


off topic..did you know the 3 leaf clover is actually a symbol from Egypt?representing the the yoni of 3 godesses..I just ran into that today, as I was looking for a story to tell the kids. Interestingly, St patrick ran the snakes out of Ireland, but there were no snakes. So I I wonder if it was religion that used the snake symbol like the Egyptians..But I wont be reading that to the kids


Thank you Spacebot for that information too!




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posted on Mar, 12 2008 @ 02:21 AM
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I might have posted a similar attitude towards this subject before, but let me reiterate by stating some issues I have with these current "drone" sightings.

First and foremost the lettering on these drones fits a promotional program for Area51 Computers, and that should in of itself raise some eyebrows.

Second, the witnesses claims are almost irritating. The first guy from California claimed it passed over his house on a regular basis, and did so at a slow pace. YET, all we ever received from this "witness" were a few still photographs. If the guy has the ability to take still digital photographs, and upload them to the internet, he most certainly also has the ability to take video footage from a camcorder. There is also another case of someone claiming this "object" hovered over their front porch for an entire HOUR, and yet they did not even have a single still photograph to prove it. They said it appeared on more than one day as well, and yet again, not a single photograph, much less a video. They also claimed they did not call anyone else to take a look at it for fear of ridicule, yet they saw it on more than one occassion, and it apparently enjoyed chilling over their front porch for extended periods of time, yet not one visual shred of evidence has ever surfaced from their account.

This lack of video evidence is quite clearly due to one very good reason, it is MUCH more difficult to create a convincing video fake than a fake still photograph. It takes a lot more skill, effort, and processing ability to create a realistic moving CGI image, than it does to create the same image for a single still frame.

Most of us know that advanced technology exists that the average civilian no doubt lacks knowledge of, but the facts simply do NOT add up in this CARET Drone case. With all of the claimed extended time periods for which the "witnesses" have viewed these "objects", the multiple occassions on which they have seen them, the clear, yet few photogprahs which have resulted from such, and the availability of inexpensive video cameras now-a-days, there is NO reason why a clear video recording of a "drone" in flight has not yet surfaced.



posted on Mar, 12 2008 @ 03:34 AM
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All excellent points, except for the Alienware situation...i think it's pretty clear they just jumped on the drone bandwagon, and used certain symbols they copied from that situation to use on their product...they even admit as much.



posted on Mar, 12 2008 @ 12:52 PM
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First and foremost the lettering on these drones fits a promotional program for Area51 Computers, and that should in of itself raise some eyebrows.

Second, the witnesses claims are almost irritating. , yet they saw it on more than one occassion, and it apparently enjoyed chilling over their front porch for extended periods of time, yet not one visual shred of evidence has ever surfaced from their account.

This lack of video evidence is quite clearly due to one very good reason, it is MUCH more difficult to create a convincing video fake than a fake still photograph. It takes a lot more skill, effort, and processing ability to create a realistic moving CGI image, than it does to create the same image for a single still frame.



Excellent points both Fort and Agent,..add to that that the symbols are not unique but historically ubiquitous on tom halls games, on Farscape, even on some corporate logos, and more of toms games , ancient languages, some natural, and others artificially contrived. Then the behaviour, of the witnesses and their "handlers" (lets be realistic here thats what they are) is bizarre in itself, though expected in the case of promoters (thats what is happening)
Yes time after time they see this things regularly, yet maintain an almost admirable even enviable self restraignt ,oath of silence even, , year after year, since 2002, (even Shirley P in Wisconsin, did one from the 1940s or 50's, bless her soul to do the "right" thing last year) . They only seem to come out when Linda and c2c are ready of course. Even if they did not have a video cam, an average person, could have done better than that. Not one sketch, not one doodle, standard accepted practice in forensics, in any forensics, even as an after thought, was ever done by any of them, and adding insult to injury even requested by the "stage handlers". This is bizarre, laughable, unacceptable, and ,if not, ladies and gentlemen, then downright intellectually dishonest.

The still foto of one where the witness and his "wife" were watertubing, was found to not not even cast a reflection, in what should have been, but oddly wasnt,thrashing water, but fortunately for us was pretty calm given the situation, and that "reflection" shown otherwise was clear out the frame. and sure enough, consistent with editing behaviour in photo shop. Credit to ArkHangels (who gave us the Syd Mead video) and Sp33 in that department.(as always amazing work). Whats more reveling to me the open and genuine manner these 2 lads. recognizing errors and discussing them in most friendly manner, irrespective of what the "result"was". Kudos. Linda has an entire movie production facillity at her disposable...why cant she do some as simple as analyze a photo. especially one such as that.


So.was this a vampire drone?, that like vampires of lore, do not cast reflections? Oh heavens no, it couldnt possibly be , as we all know vampires are afraid to travel over water! So, if I have the brain of an atom, that leaves me only one conclusion..its not really "something". its actually ,really " ", which is what has been added to the original case,
and unless my math is wrong "nothing added to or taken from nothing leaves nothing"*

* Credit to "Wisdom of the Ancients in 24 Hours"
Vol.I Springer Press.











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