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[HOAX] Isaac CARET - Drones [HOAX]

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posted on Jan, 9 2008 @ 05:19 PM
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Please credit ShiftTrio, I am happy because it validates me..and more good news..some of those black and white pics show people playing twister in 3d..some require 90 degree rotation..thats all..Two validations in one day..is overwhelming

Thanx Shift!! Thanx Sean!! ThanxNola!!

this is not over by a long shot, but its not as long a shot as before..
Sidd Reader Doublenaught and myself are putting the final touches on the Trail Bikers from Hell Jenna,Steph and Ty..and of course..Isaac.



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posted on Jan, 9 2008 @ 06:14 PM
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my last post thanking Sean,Nola,and ShiftTrio is in Limbo, and Klatuu and Sidd for helping keep this thread business..and at times fun.

.But Guys Thank you..This does not end the search but I have to sort thru 400 plus requests to use his brush..as they were free as long as they credited him on the use..like movies have to...and I dont see Dann Haberman in fine nano print anywhere or HIEA. Anyway, and Sean..those 3d people were cool ..its a really odd game where you have to land on certain spots and people behind you can wind up with your behind in their face..semi contortional stuff. noted the Ray ban shades on several too..I am so happy..perhaps the rest will fall in place soon.Klatuu that pic was from tbn do a properties check on the file and go to link on it..play with it till you get a hit. thats what I do, its a good pattern Too..dang.


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posted on Jan, 9 2008 @ 08:26 PM
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Quote:
"Not sure if this has been posted before or not, this thread is too huge.,.

But Art work like this has been around for a long time.. This one in 2006 but Ive seen this since 2004 or so... "

lol:

Excellent work! I agree with you 100%!

This is Vector graphics implemented on Photoshop!



posted on Jan, 9 2008 @ 08:56 PM
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Looking forward to your comments on this! It was such a small area that I concentrated on, in those pics, and I did not see anything "familiar" myself; but, then again, I would not recognize any of Tom Hall's character's 'cos I've never seen them before.

It's quite frustrating, actually, 'cos I've done a lot of filtering on these images and I've produced some amazing images.... but they are very large files.

When people say: "show me the beef" etc., It's not that easy to "show", cos some of the images are 100's of meg in size. If you are are willing to download massive files, let me know!

I am used (accustomed) to downloading & viewing large files, as I am interested in Mars images - some of which are nearly 1 gig in size!







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posted on Jan, 10 2008 @ 12:09 AM
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Yes Sean ,
well it is amazing this stuff..I have emailed him even joined deviant art..heck ive joined senior citizens groups just dovetaling leads. ..see some of the comments and links left at his site,,of people using his brushes unbelievably beautiful stuff..yes, but he is not our shooter I believe he may have created the gun..only research can answer that.
Remember okuda, and sternbech and others use the node and spirals also..long long before This lad here. and with several hundred confirmed users since 2004 like this one found by Klatuu on the same site



By thegreenkat.net for tbn

Its onnly because we limit our exposure on the net to one or two forums, and miss the changes in most areas..especially tech..we dont hear about it and get bagged by Isaacs.


But this lad shows us how its done now, and just bought it down to the level of laymen having access to the same tech. But its enough cumulatively to say manmade..not even including the characters inside..because right now you have forums still clinging notwithstanding that..there is nothing we can do for them. But its no longer we cant prove this or that therefore it stays.

Understanably. If you never saw any of the characters in early games it would look like noise..but these people have put in tons of retro art and stuff and made it look like really alien..and in a way.the experience is the same, if you never experienced something like that. If you like astronomy..he has it in there on macroscale for predicting seasons compare the NGC numbers they correspond to constellations see page 181 , you like music well the same modules are premeasured on 360 and minute increments, other sections correspong to quarter note. ( yyou like light and em info.. its in there too .you like philosophy he has Tai chi fenshui,,its all in there. I loved this from the gitgo. so yes we have a hoax..but we have some neat messages in the process and made some wonderful wonderful friends, and gained knowledge we had lost and acquired new skills.
Some stay in the ufo cubbyhole, and the world is passing them by, and have insulated themselves from reason . No we have to leave these caverns, make mistakes, reach out and learn the new technologies, sow tthe seeds of the new "science fiction", learn to dream new dreams, and bond with people around us ,accept changes, make changes, interact or the new world thats coming on us now, will be incomprehensible to us when it arrives. Then those that failed to seek that light will be in a darkness of their own making. Unable to understand you nor I, let alone real ET's when they do come , or recognize them if they are here now.

the morrow brings something new I'm sure
Our time is coming soon..you all keep up these good works..only good can come of it. For we are good honest, and noble people, and however harrowing a tempest comes..and goes..we will be the ones to left standing to recieve the peace of mind and serenity only the truth , knowledge and wisdom can give. So help us God.
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posted on Jan, 10 2008 @ 06:31 AM
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Hey Sys and Springer and everyone:

I believe I found the CARET Document Rosetta Stone here:




It doesn't say 'whodunnit,' but is sure says 'how.'

All on one page too!

Now, how do we get some names...?



posted on Jan, 10 2008 @ 08:19 AM
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And Volume 2 is here:




This guy is German and the templates are dated 2004. A little earlier than our subject matter no?

Excellent find Klat..



posted on Jan, 10 2008 @ 08:39 AM
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As I stated erlier he Dan (2004), and Wurklash( since 2003), of germany also have been providing this free , and others copy righted.since 2004..he has approximately 400 plus commentators. and over 30 thousand viewers(Dan Alone) most of whom have downloaded used and poste links to how they used his brushes..If we went thru the 400 links , some just thanked him or asked permission., but the condition was they credit him..he made brushes that with designs that could be done only with highend muchines, that is all. we cannot get too euphoric..as natural as that may be. If ShiftTrio (thank you) came back he might be able to help us shed light ..maybe..I will check to see if Dan Habermann has responded yet and maybe we we can divide the workload of searching this way..I take first 5 pages, klatuu second 5 pages, sean, 3rd 5 pages ,..we start from the last page foward. as that marks 2004.
remember each link may be an entire gallery. or have nothing of value but a name or art piece may show up relevant to the source. there is always chance someone outside the deviant circle got permission..or made special arrangements with him. which with silence we have encountered lately, I would not doubt an arrangement.You may also enroll on deviant to help interact more efiicientlly. As I mentioned to October..if there copyrighted..then I am sure the Hoaxers if like Tom Hall, would have paid and most likely have an NDA just for insurance not to disclose his comapnys or another companys name. .This is beginning to feel more like a molotov cocktail as I reflect, as I have been emailing almost fanatically every link I find with the image character related people. But we do the best we can..perhaps there is a game in puzzle to be completed..the science aspects and as I alluded way back..the barcode aspect..I dont relish all this googling as I think something simpler is invovolved. And the simplest thing for us is to stop..Something is not right here...Too convenient. right at this time just when..No aspersion to Trio as hes been heer since 2003, and has been busy on other threads. and dam good poster ..just something says stop..dont let the bird in hand go for two in the bush..

Please listen carefully!
I would like everyone to email Tom@tomtomtom.com ask him why characters are in the lap and nicely compliment him ..ask him..how he dit it. is it a part of his new game.
short and sweet.. also dopefish.com com..what is Dopefish doing in LAP

also 3drealms.coms forum leader Joe Siegler. Dopefish caretaker and Tom Halls Buddy.

also Especially, Commander-keen.com , post a comment on their guest book.

how great and cute the frantic frie and Krazy carrot look. in the LAP.as well their webmaster email his behind too..


WE have to deal with this and more people write the better..If I am only one emailing..then we will be twiddling thumbs here a very along time. we can search these template /brush makers at our liesure and and carefully..

good luck
please do email if you really want an answer too all of this..anyone reading this as well. this would be the most effective and easiest thing to do instead of spreading ourselves all over the internet . Someone is trying to buy tihemselves some time..lets not give it to them.




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posted on Jan, 11 2008 @ 10:21 AM
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Incidentally the History Channel trailer for a new UFO series uses similair animations to the drone music videos:

www.history.com...

Why is nobody talking about the drones but the flow of copying the diagrams so frequent????



posted on Jan, 11 2008 @ 02:03 PM
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Hi October!

whats happening is the interest in ufos and secrets in general is high..but the debate is minimized by the fact that as soon as people open the windows in their forums and realize the science and tech and art was there all along it loses the wow factor. The wow facor always is highest in very limited subject line forums where most of the believers continually recycle the same material amongst each other, and reading books is confined to reading more ufo books, by the same people calling themselves investigators.Angst risies within when a contrary view point is made. Ats is different..most people are scavengig news from all over the place in real time..as well as the unusual. when these two meet..analysis differentiation, synthesis, and and conclusions occur rapidly..its not debunking at all..its where things like probable and impossible and possible take their proper form and run their course rather quickly.

This thread would have been dead early but its stayed on because identifying the tech and methods uemployed are very important..so we dont have a long learning curve later, and getting practice in catching the sources..thats all.. and we will. The personal attacks on my research at other forums has increased exponentially...because of the exposure of highly held icons of theirs in maintaining myths for profit.. Like attacking a minister in their churches. The outrage is delicious. but that sort of nonsense is rare here, though there e heated and even entertaining moments., but the flaming is quicky suppressed to avoid ruining the flow of facts and intelligent discussion ..some say censorship..but thats hogwash when you see other forums imploding as a result.

I am glad you found that history channel too..as I remember their series was supposed to start soon. Thanx








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posted on Jan, 11 2008 @ 03:30 PM
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I noticed that you were being cornered elsewhere Sys but you have kept a brave face as always. I will stay to watch the trailers waiting for the main event if it comes but like a certain "Cloverfield" movie that's been pumped up to breaking point, i hope it doesn't fall flat on it's promises...



posted on Jan, 11 2008 @ 06:12 PM
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Hi October..yes its one hell of a food fight..I was flattered when AC at alien conforums, deleted my post in response to what AC and another had to say about a tongue lashing or disembowlment of Saladfingers and they were waiting for me.."Your arrived early" a graphic went.they were figuratively speaking of course and I in turn did same.The other members are outstanding and hope they understand what happened Icopied my post and will release it only on user requests. OMF has been absolutely so wonderful with all the attention they are giving me and certain colleagues. over there, hoping if they can torment me I will leave and take my ..Oh no..not yet..not quite yet.

First News Item..
after encouraging everyone to email yesterday, to various people like Tom Hall, Joe Siegel, and others..Murnut got a quick response from Joe Siegel directing him to the pic of Dopefish..and asked him was that his creation..Joe responded "Nope". nothing more.
not ,what is that, I cant see anything..but Nope.
What many dont know is I am now a member of 3d realms forums which is a forum for Apogee and Id soft games. That Joe is in charge of too.The dope fish pic and all of keens pics were posted there too..
One member commented 2 days ago.. "Nice" and his Avatar was Dopefish..a real devotee..
But What a forum moderator did say a group of Dopefish fans may have been involved) I know that..
Tom Hall is the creator of it. and everyone are trying to promote it are fans too, even me.
So.no emails to Joe though.unless something else turns up..at least he answered and I do play fair in this game...but do press the case at commander-keen and tomtomtom.com site which is Kingsisle. with your questions until we get an answer. Dont just use dopefish its krazy carot, mention attacking asparagus..they are all his creations

Second News Item Mufon has down a reporton caret, stating it was faked but..that it may have been an attempt to leak info, not about Roswell but kecksburg..based on certain report numbers referenced in caret report..(interesting) and Salad , Kris Avery is quoted extensively in the report. its in powerpoint so if you dont have that..I dont know what to tell you.

www.mufon.com...

Third News Item The history channel , to add on to octobers post report, I understand Kris avery's work may and perhaps even the music from droneonline in its ufo seekers program in feb..remember that odd link a tripped over at fortune city ? that one Outrageo vindicated me , and I think ATS uses them now..


www.history.com...

That mufon report is dynomite..read it..perhaps it wasnt a russian satellite..and with Arthur, EscherInstitute, Georgiatech, doing all the neat at programming language work. Like Isaac described.. AI machines, and aircraft, you know why I have not let them off the hook either.
good night



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posted on Jan, 12 2008 @ 12:44 AM
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Thanks for the link October, I watch all of the videos. One that grabbed me was The Rendlesham Sighting. If you look closely they talk about some symbols and he made a drawing of the symbols. One of them reminded me of the Basin Drone if you look at one of the photos you’ll see that it has like a V shape and 3 bars on top. If you look at the Basin Drone same V upside down.

I don’t know what to think maybe I just want to believe so much that every thing is a drone similarity.

Here is a link www.history.com...



posted on Jan, 13 2008 @ 12:15 AM
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I dunno while the stuff at deviant art does bare a striking resemblance to the Isaac Lap's, they don't stand up at all, when you save them, and zoom in on them. One scroll of zoom, and everything starts to blur.

While I understand those were made many years ago, and like I said the peole involved may have at least gotten ideas from Deviant, or even the people from deviant worked on the Laps. Who's to know?

But the sheer scale of the laps, they are so enourmous in size, when you start to zoom in on them, I mean lines are still tight while my 3.0 mhz, 2 gigs of ram and 500$ video card are bogging down. To me it's just an amazing feat. AND don't forget whoever did that had the foresite, and where-withall to plant hidden images at the pixelated level, perhaps even 3-d Art at the colored pixel level (like those old posters that were a fad in the late 80's /early 90's. I just don't see the artist at Deviant pulling it off alone.

I dunno I think it's gonna come out one day sooner than later, that this IS a viral marketing campaign. I mean companies (Alienware) are even starting to use the stuff on thier own products.

But now Mufon is saying there's a Kecksburg tie to this stuff? Maybe this whole thing is some elaborate Code, that some guy (Isaac) alias no doubt, used to try to get some real info out there, on a real UFO case. Now THAT I would love to see. It would make me alot happier if that's what this was.

Because to telll you the truth, with viral (Cloverfield), and now directed sound waves makeing voices in your head(Paranormal state), wierd eyes glowing on your T.V. in the middle of a show your watching(Sarah Conor Chonicles) ect, all these forms of advertising are intrusive, and annoying imo.

So yes while this still may be a huge Viral, where other products,music,and/or tv shows even use your stuff, cause they don't even know what it is, and they're advertiseing for you(I haven't read the Mufon/Kecksburg article yet), it would be a big let down for me "if" that's what this all turns out to be.

Again Good work Sys, Good work Shift spotting the Deviant art influences(it's definitely there), and everyone else working to figure out exactly what this all means.

It's sad it's moves so far away from what started it all though. The original pictures of the Drones. That is what hooked me, well that, and Isaacs story, and the PACL stuff, primers, and what not. It was a great story, but then Isaac vanished. Shame really.



posted on Jan, 13 2008 @ 02:09 AM
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Hi Nola..yes that new stuff virralists, even the military are doing it, is very annoying. Thats why I did not want us going on a chase that would scatter our limited resources, we are actually just a few.
There used to be a show a spy show called Man from Uncle, and I spy, and Get Smart, .and thet had some wierd gadgets that looked so workable in concept and as a prop, they had military people come down and ask them did it really work..(no it didnt) but one field drives the other,,sci fi drives the possibilities, and like they say..necessity is the mother of invention. You are correct the scale is enormous, thats why if its MMOG then the reality has to be absolutely mind blowing..andToms work has cult followings for his work that wsnt even great hits..but are still trickling..this is the kind of stuff investors look at..for an mmog..staying power..they are meant to last years unlike an RPG, a few thousand points and poof gone. and actually..it may have multiple endings..just like you have multiple parts to the diagram.
We are the game itself !!! like an actor in the studio, and the movie evovolves with us..thats pretty powerful stuff. He nmust have presented them a game plan they could not resist for people to throw in over a hundred million dollars.

Hey guys pleasse leave comments on commander-keen.com to let them know you know..only one person I know did, I was very disappointed..and he wound up getting a response. maybe one of you will also. My nick is too well known now , I am tagged and I wont get answers so easily as one of you who are fresh...thats the breaks..however we find out is the important thing ..please do email or call.

Thanx to NEWKID for the following
Why you guys call Tom Hall at his job?

KingsIsle Entertainment Inc.:
5918 W. Courtyard Dr, Suite 450
Austin, TX 78730
Phone: 512-623-5900

It really is time to do this and for those who dont feel like it..

That he which hath no stomach to this fight,
Let him depart; his passport shall be made,
And crowns for convoy put into his purse;
We would not die in that man's company
That fears his fellowship to die with us.
This day is call'd the feast of Crispian.
He that outlives this day, and comes safe home,
Will stand a tip-toe when this day is nam'd,
And rouse him at the name of Crispian.
He that shall live this day, and see old age,
Will yearly on the vigil feast his neighbours,
And say 'To-morrow is Saint Crispian.'
Then will he strip his sleeve and show his scars,
And say 'These wounds I had on Crispian's day.'
Old men forget; yet all shall be forgot,
But he'll remember, with advantages,
What feats he did that day. Then shall our names,
Familiar in his mouth as household words-
Harry the King, Bedford and Exeter,
Warwick and Talbot, Salisbury and Gloucester-
Be in their flowing cups freshly rememb'red.
This story shall the good man teach his son;
And Crispin Crispian shall ne'er go by,
From this day to the ending of the world,
But we in it shall be remembered-
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile,
This day shall gentle his condition;
And gentlemen in England now-a-bed
Shall think themselves accurs'd they were not here,
And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
That fought with us upon Saint Crispin's day.
Henry V Shakespeare



So Ats Brothers
let us now..Unleash the Dogs of War..




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posted on Jan, 13 2008 @ 01:35 PM
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btw the above Mufon link isn't working for me(the post or two above mine), and I'm very interested in reading it.

Do I have to register to thier sight, or has another Sys touched thread vanished off the face of the earth, never to be seen again?


Sys, Maybe you can get me a new link? (if no registry to thier sight is required?). But if I need to reg, lemme know. Prolly should register to thier sight anyway huh?

tia



posted on Jan, 13 2008 @ 02:42 PM
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No i5ts free
its at the bottom of the left hand BLUE margin
mufon special investigatiom caret last one
you need powerpoint to read it ..totally free and clear
fixed link
They have a new director named Jaimes Carrion..Boy is he good Is all I will say..

mufon.com...






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posted on Jan, 13 2008 @ 05:23 PM
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Interesting things happen at OMF. Everybody is thrown out, who doesn't believe in the drones.

Maybe this is due to James' appearing there. Or loss of witnesses.

Sys, be careful!

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posted on Jan, 13 2008 @ 06:10 PM
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Originally posted by Siddharta
Interesting things happen at OMF. Everybody is thrown out, who doesn't believe in the drones.

Maybe this is due to James' appearing there. Or loss of witnesses.

Sys, be careful!

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I was harshly warned myself...shadow quit...sad day



posted on Jan, 13 2008 @ 06:22 PM
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Your Alive! after the "Night of the Long Knives" ..amazing

After floating on the driftwood from OMF I am back after seeing the SS OMF arguments self destruct..and I closed my account


Yes That Mufon report was too much for them even allowing for that its preliminary..of course you all knew OMF was hell bent on getting us out..before this..I believe Dr Dil left too..Doublenaught will join us later after he posts a jab I do not have to be Whitley Strieber to dream this was coming.

Anyway, This is where I am at Here my heart always will be here. Murnut I can assure you Sidharta, Me Springer, the nefarious Lord Simon, and fellow ATSers will make us all feel welcome here..
whatever Ideas opinions you have ..in the end Reason will prevail here.
For the Atheists..this is tangible and irrefutable proof with the release of Mufon report ,right when we were in the middle of being literally "molested" , proves .that there is a God in the sky and the forums below ..and he does not like Ugly!.
we can now resume our research wherever it takes us, unfettered by fanatics , The last point was the Ty trail map..that seemed to draw the most intense vitriol ,fire and ire ,just as we were starting, from both the founders and the OMRT together..( who by the way ballyhooed an impressive and motley panel of astrophysicists,economists,photanalysts, microwave radiation experts, dogcatchers ,used autosalespeople, and of course LMH in that order of importance) ..that is highly unusual. I hope JCarrion..drops in at some time..(Mi casa es su casa.!) and we will keep visiting his Mufon site not to nag but to share and grow.


As for the Rest come on in, the water's fine!



Sys..
.mmmm splash splash perhaps my little Dopefish is in there under somewhere





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