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[HOAX] Isaac CARET - Drones [HOAX]

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posted on Jul, 27 2007 @ 06:13 PM
TiXo could be this in Wikipedia: "The TX-0, for Transistorized Experimental computer zero but affectionately referred to as tixo (pronouced "tix oh"), was an early fully transistorized computer and contained a then-huge 64K of 18-bit words of core memory. TX-0 went online in 1956 and was used continually into the 1960s."

posted on Jul, 27 2007 @ 06:19 PM
possibly refering to TX-0... pronounced "tix-oh".

wiki: TX-0

The TX-0, for Transistorized Experimental computer zero but affectionately referred to as tixo (pronouced "tix oh"), was an early fully transistorized computer and contained a then-huge 64K of 18-bit words of core memory. TX-0 went online in 1956 and was used continually into the 1960s.

they later go on to talk about how it was eventually used for advancing speech and handwriting recognition as well as program debugging. I guess this could play into his interest in language and computer engineering. apparently it was only really used up until the 60's and his story starts in the mid to late 80's... its not unlikly he would be about the right age to have seen or at least heard of a tixo during his grade school years.

edit: damn klatunictobarata, you beat me to it by 6min... grrrrr

[edit on 7/27/2007 by bokinsmowl]

posted on Jul, 27 2007 @ 06:37 PM
I was trying to determine his age because he says that it was basically introduced to him when he was in grad. school

Later in his report he goes on to state that "...most of us are retired now..."

so if its 2007 and Isaac is retired, lets figure out how old (round about) he is

being as that I am only 25 I'm not too sure what the going age for retirement is?

his voice on the radio stations tape does not sound elderly, nor does it
child-ish, so i'm thinking middle aged over his thirties and forties. you figure he was out of grad school and working in his field before 87.

posted on Jul, 27 2007 @ 06:38 PM
oh wait... grad school? i saw grade school, now im going to have to go back and look because my who timeline is thrown off now. i guess he could have gone to grad school at MIT.

posted on Jul, 27 2007 @ 06:47 PM

Originally posted by agent violet
I listened to suicide virus post and the st.louis tape of isaac and elonka

so we can determine this from isaac:
1. he is male
2. he likes codes, hacking and the like
3. he has been to more than one 2600's (suicide virus provides a link and then theres another that explains what this is)
4. he is probably a local to the st.louis area b/c that radio program is a local station to st. louis

How do we know this is the "Isaac" of the CARET documents? Did he ever claim to be such on the radio show? I didn't listen yet so I don't know.

posted on Jul, 27 2007 @ 06:54 PM
there is basically a preface in script (on the virtuallystrange, link)
that implies, this is the 'Isaac'. you 'll have too read it or whatever.
Although Isaac comes in at like 30 mins into the talk or whatever it seems that he makes a brief statement then hangs up and this is after waiting an extensive amount of time to get on the air(the host syays something along these lines of "sorry too keep you waiting so long"). He makes a comment about asking how long it took this Elonka lady to crack this code, she answers, and then he asks again how long it took. He also says something like that he met her before at 2600 meetups, he specifically says meetUPS not meetUP.
It is very brief and too me at least he has a distinct voice, I almost thought he was foreign for a brief second but i no longer do.

[edit on 7/27/2007 by agent violet]

posted on Jul, 27 2007 @ 07:16 PM

Originally posted by shadow fax
equalized document

anyone ever noticed this? I was toying around and mistakenly hit the 'equalize' funtion in p-shop and got this.

anyone have an idea?


...if these points have been brought up and i forgot sorry, hard to remember what we have and haven't been over, but i'll make them brief...

1. We keep calling that marking a "T", but what if it's an "I" in Isaac.

2. I have some questions about the copier. I know someone who worked in military intelligence and they mentioned the restrictions on copiers in classified environments. Not just top level stuff, but even the day to day activities of government service civilians and random military staff. The copiers keep track of how many pages have been copied as well as what. When you copy something you have to document it all so that it can be compared to the statistics from the machine. Any jammed pages or other problems have to be turned in and addressed as well.

3. I'm still so weary on the fact that he left the facility with the pages stuffed in his pants. As well as the fact there are no obvious creases on the scans. I assume there should be some markings from where his belt or pants held the papers against his body. It seems like such a weak story as compared to the intricacies of the primer and pictures. Which means the explanation is either a weak excuse, in light of all the other effort put into it, or it's true and security at a place with armed guards was lax.

I know these have been brought up but they still seem odd to me. If this is a hoaxer I think we have to find these little elements that they may have overlooked while concentrating on other facets.

posted on Jul, 27 2007 @ 07:29 PM
you know when i looked at the T mark, it resembled almost like a potion bottle being that the top is skinny and the bottom is wider, so to speak.
but I highly doubt that, thats what it is.

nonetheless, instead of him 'stuffing' the paper in his pants, what if he wrapped them around his thigh, i too have been thinking about how crease-less they are and the only way i can think that can be done, when they're down your pants, is by using tape and 'wrapping' them on the thigh. It would provide a curved surface that would be concealed, and wouldnt cause a crease, but as far as how he did it i'm not too sure.

posted on Jul, 27 2007 @ 07:59 PM
I've been searching the U.S. patent database and haven't come up with anything really connected to this. Some patents are pretty vague but could be connected in some way. However some of my searching led to this:

Xerox PARC Forum presents..
"The Third Wave Of The Computer Revolution,
RFID, Direct Computer-To-Computer Communications"
* Roger Stewart, VP Engineering, Alien Technology
4:00-5:00 PM
Xerox Palo Alto Research Center, 3333 Coyote Hill Rd., Palo Alto
Cost: Free

Vice President Enginnering of Alien Technology?

Perhaps we should research this XPARC guy.

posted on Jul, 27 2007 @ 08:12 PM
good find pjslug
i did a search and this is what i turned up

if you type: roger stewart vp engineering alien technology

exactly how it is, and google images it, the first picture is of the guy and gives a brief bio, click on that scroll to bottom of page, his pic is towards the bottom

posted on Jul, 27 2007 @ 08:19 PM
Nevermind. He is the VP of engineering for a company called Alien Technology. Oh well, it was worth a shot.

posted on Jul, 27 2007 @ 08:26 PM

Here's his bio:

Roger Stewart
Chief Technology Officer
Alien Technology

Roger Stewart joined Alien Technology in July, 1999. Prior to joining Alien, Mr. Stewart's responsibilities have included 9 years as a Group Head and then 3 years as Director of the Solid State Display Laboratory at the Sarnoff Corporation in Princeton, New Jersey. He has over 30 years' experience in IC design, semiconductor process development and flat panel displays.

Mr. Stewart received a BS-EE degree from Johns Hopkins University in 1965 and an MS-EE degree from Lehigh University in 1968. Between 1966 and 1987 he worked for the Westinghouse Electric Corporation, Boeing Corporation, and RCA developing IC processes and integrated circuits including CMOS static RAMs, high-density CMOS ROM arrays, EPROM's, power converters, and high-speed shift registers. Since 1987, Mr. Stewart has led the development of advanced solid state displays including poly-silicon, amorphous-silicon, and crystalline-silicon AMLCDs and Organic Light Emitting Diodes (OLEDs). Major accomplishments include development of the world's first Active Matrix Electroluminescent (AMEL) displays and development of the world's first self-scanned amorphous silicon AMLCDs (SASID). Mr. Stewart has published 72 papers on flat panel displays and integrated circuits and holds 62 U.S. Patents. He has received numerous awards for his work including the "David Sarnoff Award for Outstanding Technical Achievement" for his role in founding a startup display company called "SARIF Inc." in 1994. Mr. Stewart has taught courses on CMOS circuit theory and flat panel displays sponsored by Boeing, RCA, IEEE, and the Society for Information Display (SID). His service within the IEEE has included Chairman of the 1977 IEEE SOS Workshop, VLSI Workshop Committee 1984-1986, and ISSCC Committee from 1986-1989. He is a member of Eta Kappa Nu and was elected in 1997 as a Fellow of the IEEE. Mr. Stewart currently serves on the Technical Program Committee for the Society for Information Display.

posted on Jul, 27 2007 @ 08:27 PM

Originally posted by alevar
The concept of the "mission statement" was reverse engineered from alien technology as well, and was one of PACL's many innovcations. So no, there's no problem with their use of the term.

I admire your humour but it borders on ridicule - I'm up for it though if you are.

posted on Jul, 27 2007 @ 08:30 PM

Originally posted by srb2001

ISSCC Committee from 1986-1989.

Co-incidental similarity ?
What would you call it if you had to say it ?

posted on Jul, 27 2007 @ 08:38 PM
I am assuming he chose the name "Isaac" because of Isaac Newton. Isaac Newton discovered gravity, and that's what the device he was working on did -- modified gravity.

posted on Jul, 27 2007 @ 08:44 PM
You know, this whole time we have been looking to links with Palo Alto Research Center, Xerox, and XPARC. But if you read Isaac's story he clearly mentioned that some of his coworkers were plucked from IBM as well. Coincidentally when I was checking for boolean searches of patents on linguistic analysis or holographic substrate AND Palo Alto Research Center, many patents were displayed coming from IBM. I think we need to expand our search of employees that might have worked at IBM before PACL was formed; employees that might have been working on advanced computational algorithms or linguistic analysis.

posted on Jul, 27 2007 @ 08:46 PM
What if Isaac is half hoax, half real? Let's say Isaac was unable to take anything out of the building, but he still knew a great deal about it. He decides he wants to tell other people what he knows (due to sightings, etc.) and needs a way to present it. If he just gets on ATS and tell people about it then no one will pay attention or believe the story. But, having personally done the reports and written documents he could almost exactly reproduce them. He has a post-doc education in engineering to go along with an analytical perfectionist mind. I don't think CGI would be incredibly hard for an engineers mind to learn. It's just patterns of structures and he's probably great with computers after all of his experience. So maybe Isaac tells a lot of truth in the story but had to fake documents, which he originally produced, to get his information out.

I'm not saying I believe this but I was trying to go through the thought process assuming that it's a hoax, but not with malicious intent. It's been mentioned how narrative and relaxed the tone of his letter feels. He throws in little jokes or references to other things that have checked out like when the PACL facility was checked out.

A good way to lie is to associate other known truths. It's the difference between, "I met a girl at the bar last night and slept with her." and "No you didn't." Compared to, "Right after Tony Parker hit that big three pointer I met a girl at the bar who happened to be a big Spurs fan and I ended up sleeping with her. *High fives all around followed by "He's a Jolly Good Fellow"*

He could be telling a mostly true story but backed with 'faked' material. I apologize if this has been brought up but I can't recall that it had. Just another possibility to throw out there.

posted on Jul, 27 2007 @ 09:13 PM
yea but the written documents are near perfect as far as punctuation/context and spelling. whereas the webpage itself contains at least 5 faults in spelling and out of context errors.

unless, this was a purposefully attempted trick to 'dumb down' himself, i cant see him making both the documents and the webpage, simply because of these errors.

the only reason i can think of him dumbing himself down, would be to support the case that he took the documents and did not make them himself, if that makes any sense.

posted on Jul, 27 2007 @ 09:28 PM
Parabol, that idea about a true hoax, or a hoax that is really true, is a good idea. It would at least explain where Isaac got his ideas from.

It doesn't put us any closer, but it is an idea to keep in mind. For years we've all heard rumors that the government was working on this type of technology. Maybe this was the only way Isaac could try to pass on the info.

Then again, maybe he has heard the same stories and just used them because so many people think it could be true.

I hate going in circles.

posted on Jul, 27 2007 @ 09:35 PM
Sadly, circles are where we are going.

CGI : YES !!
CGI : So what.

Text analysis : Not conclusive.

We need to have someone come
forth as a witness. (Jesus, I just invited trolls).

With nothing further from Isaac, we ARE going
in circles.


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