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[HOAX] Isaac CARET - Drones [HOAX]

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posted on Jul, 19 2007 @ 07:03 PM
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Something I just notice while quoting Isaac on a post ,2 post ago

Isaac said “These crafts, assuming they're anything like the hardware I worked with in the 80's (assuming they're better, in fact), are equipped with technology that enables invisibility”

HELLO !! , did you just say “ assuming they're anything like the hardware I worked with”
How about this “NUMB NUTS”


DO YOU THINK?




posted on Jul, 19 2007 @ 07:23 PM
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Originally posted by moonking



LoL, I noticed that. It reminded me of another add-on piece to a 3D model. Actaully that is one of the pieces that wasn't added into the drone images untill a bit later. So we know Isaac is linked to RajMan1977 and the Big Basin images, and all images whos drone has this partical 3D model attachment.

[edit on 19-7-2007 by 11 11]



posted on Jul, 19 2007 @ 07:35 PM
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FYI, LMH sent someone a higher resolution scan of one of the big basin crafts.

www.divshare.com...

Here is a preview:



[edit on 19-7-2007 by rwiggins]



posted on Jul, 19 2007 @ 07:53 PM
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Originally posted by rwiggins
FYI, LMH sent someone a higher resolution scan of one of the big basin crafts.



Basicaly all the pieces in the Big Basin photo's above, are in this photo below.

isaaccaret.fortunecity.com...

So it is 100% fact Isaac is linked to Ty and all the Big Basin images.





[edit on 19-7-2007 by 11 11]



posted on Jul, 19 2007 @ 08:20 PM
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Wow, great picture! Those are most definitely linguistic primers on the side of that thing. After a cursory inspection I don't think they match any of the pages from Isaac's primer. I am looking at the symbol on the bottom left symbol on the right panel. The symbol in the middle of the large black dot.



It appears to be 41.0 LR, on the bottom right of the chart. However there is no symbol 41.0 LR appearing in the center of a black circle in the primer provided by Isaac.

Rwiggins, I am interested in how you managed to procure this photo.

EDIT: I see the file was uploaded today. By whom I wonder?

[edit on 7/19/2007 by ExquisitExamplE]

[edit on 7/19/2007 by ExquisitExamplE]



posted on Jul, 19 2007 @ 08:20 PM
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Originally posted by 11 11
[LoL, I noticed that. It reminded me of another add-on piece to a 3D model. Actaully that is one of the pieces that wasn't added into the drone images untill a bit later. So we know Isaac is linked to RajMan1977 and the Big Basin images, and all images whos drone has this partical 3D model attachment.

Actually if you look at the big basin pics, you’ll notice that the big basin “crown of thorns” or what I call “statue of liberty spikes” are really the other smaller wing’s that are from (or in spirit of or ripped off from) the Chad pic’s ,I dont think the big basin pics are related to the chad,raj,cell phone, but are another group of hoaxers
files.abovetopsecret.com...



[edit on 19-7-2007 by moonking]



posted on Jul, 19 2007 @ 09:12 PM
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Originally posted by moonking
...that Ty is the only witness that said this thing disappeared...


Didn't 'Stephen' from the first Big Basin pictures state that the object appeared and then just disappeared while it was in front of him?


Earthfiles.com
Two of twelve photographs USPS-mailed to Earthfiles of bizarre aerial object slowly rotating through series of images taken on June 5, 2007, at Big Basin, California. First Big Basin images reported on June 8, 2007, (below) were attributed to "Stephen." These latest mailed to Earthfiles are described by Ty B., as his photographs.


It seems to me that Ty and Stephen may well be the same person. If this is a hoax this must be true or at least they are in it together. Maybe someone trying to create multiple sighting. But the photo class teacher, I forget her name, basically vouched for Stephen. So unless Ty is Stephen then she is in on it also.


Earthfiles.com
It was rotating, slowly, but often changing direction from clockwise
to counterclockwise randomly." - Ty B., Big Basin, California


Sounds a bit like a wind vane. Might be an interesting feature to keep one part facing into the wind for whatever reason. Of course I am having a bit of a problem believing any of it anyway.



posted on Jul, 19 2007 @ 09:14 PM
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posted on Jul, 19 2007 @ 09:36 PM
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Moon, the WTF in pic one looks like it is intended as a mount point for the cage like structure. Looks like there could be three at 120 degree intervals. I think I can see two in the pic. Or maybe it is some type of connector.

The way the cage fades away in the background makes is seem like it is not a real picture. Seems like the depth of field fades really fast. I guess the true reason, if one was to believe it was real, is that it is fading to invisible as the picture was taken.

Edit: After looking some more, maybe it's not the depth of field, it's just that it doesn't look like it was modeled correctly.

[edit on 7/19/2007 by roadgravel]



posted on Jul, 19 2007 @ 09:41 PM
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Originally posted by roadgravel
Didn't 'Stephen' from the first Big Basin pictures state that the object appeared and then just disappeared while it was in front of him?

After checking . Your Right !!!
* STEPHEN "I was able to get one more shot which came out kind of blurred and then the thing _vanished_ -- like, as in, now you see it now you don't "
So Stephen and Ty both say this thing vanished in thin air
Yet another compelling statement that link's both of the big Basin sighting's Witnesses testimonies together



posted on Jul, 19 2007 @ 09:56 PM
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Originally posted by roadgravel
Moon, the WTF in pic one looks like it is intended as a mount point for the cage like structure. Looks like there could be three at 120 degree intervals. I think I can see two in the pic. Or maybe it is some type of connector.

The way the cage fades away in the background makes is seem like it is not a real picture. Seems like the depth of field fades really fast. I guess the true reason, if one was to believe it was real, is that it is fading to invisible as the picture was taken.

Edit: After looking some more, maybe it's not the depth of field, it's just that it doesn't look like it was modeled correctly.

[edit on 7/19/2007 by roadgravel]

Maybe your right ,but I see it as two pieces not matching up
I wonder if anyone can comment on this being a CG artifact



posted on Jul, 19 2007 @ 10:59 PM
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I want to personally THANK ALL of you for the last few pages of GREAT Forensic investigation!


I think it's a only a matter of days before we have this one PUT TO BED!


Springer...



posted on Jul, 20 2007 @ 03:49 AM
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Originally posted by moonking
Actually if you look at the big basin pics, you’ll notice that the big basin “crown of thorns” or what I call “statue of liberty spikes” are really the other smaller wing’s that are from (or in spirit of or ripped off from) the Chad pic’s ,I dont think the big basin pics are related to the chad,raj,cell phone, but are another group of hoaxers


Nope here is evidence it is all the same hoaxer. Isaac, Chad, Rajman1977, Jenna and I bet all others are all the same person.

I made this following illustration to show all the simularities that the Big Basin drone has with all the rest of the drones. It also proves my theory that the "Languistic Primers" were created just to be used as "decals" on the 3D model.




posted on Jul, 20 2007 @ 04:02 AM
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I have to say that is an awesome photograph and the Isaac report images certainly fit the drone. I also see the core of the drone is the anti gravity generator pointing down with the spike into the cage. I really don't get this anymore, as people have said many times if this is a hoax it's a blinder.



posted on Jul, 20 2007 @ 05:16 AM
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Moonking, the second image after th WTF one (I agree with that sentiment by the way). Could Isaac have been referring to the large solid-loooking circular symbols to the right (butt end) of the paddle arm? I don't think I've seen them on any of the others. Other than that I don't see how Isaac could have discerned any detail from those symbols. Maybe those big shapes are a hint of lethality?
The way the cage dissappears into the sky just looks like overexposure to me.

I personally don't think 11 11 has proved CGi, but he has definitively shown that, if it is a hoax, then there is one hoaxer, or a small group working from the same source material. For that he gets a star from me. There are more visual cues and imperfections indicating a photographic origin, in my opinion, rather than 3D rendering. There are people here at ATS that have created their own models of the "Chad" drone, and I would like to see 11 11, or anyone else produce a render and comp that looks as photo-real as the Isaac images especially.



posted on Jul, 20 2007 @ 07:12 AM
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It's interesting that some of the drones are 'painted' or coated with a black and grey, partially metallic surface, and some are painted olive-green and white. This seems very much a human thing to do but the question is why?

I had a thought it was some sort of optical camo, like sharks being light underneath (like the white-olive drones) so you couldn't see them when looking up, but the writing all appears to be olive which stands out.



posted on Jul, 20 2007 @ 07:37 AM
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Originally posted by Karilla
Moonking, the second image after th WTF one (I agree with that sentiment by the way). Could Isaac have been referring to the large solid-loooking circular symbols to the right (butt end) of the paddle arm?

There are people here at ATS that have created their own models of the "Chad" drone, and I would like to see 11 11, or anyone else produce a render and comp that looks as photo-real as the Isaac images especially.

I guess the point I'm making here is the symbols on the big basin drone don’t jump out at me as being similar to the symbols on the Chad or Raj drones
But Isaac did say” I'm very familiar with the “language” on their undersides seen clearly in photos by Chad and Rajman, and in another form in the Big Basin photos”
Now is he claiming that it’s another form (different) Alien language?

He also said “They appear in a very simple form on Chad’s craft, but appear in the more complex diagram form on the underside of the Big Basin craft as well. Both are unmistakable, even at the small size of the Big Basin photos. An example of a diagram in the style of the Big Basin craft is included with this in a series of scanned pages from the [mistitled] "Linguistic Analysis Primer".

Now here’s where I get a little confused

On one hand he say’s “in another form in the Big Basin photos”
Suggesting it’s a different form of “symbols”
On the other hand he says “a diagram in the style of the Big Basin craft is included with this in a series of scanned pages from the [mistitled] "Linguistic Analysis Primer”

The "Linguistic Analysis Primer” seems to have the symbols that resemble the Chad a Raj drone and not so much any symbols I could make out from what was the only images released at the time from LMH at earth files
As Judge Judy would say “if it doesn’t make sense “

Anyway as far as the models that are known to be created like the one’s from saladfinger ,I think in order prove they could create a similar photo ,they would then have to Print out there picture and Scan it back in ,rather than just posting their picture in it’s original pure digital creation

one last thing , Springer, from your last post it sounds like you guy's at ATS might have the "Goods" ?



posted on Jul, 20 2007 @ 08:27 AM
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pjslug, you're right. My last post from last night is gone.

I was commenting on how the hardly reviewed tripod drone picture looks like a point in the evolution of the drones. It has a second round feature like Big Basin but similar spikes to the early drones. I had wondered if this is a group effort and the group considered it too low a quality. Having been nixed the artist released it to ufocasebook on his own. Also it makes the drones appear terrestrial because of the tripod.



posted on Jul, 20 2007 @ 09:21 AM
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I do hope this is all revealed eventually , It really is one of the greatest little "storys" I've read ever, Real or not I am enjoying myself and I can't lose either way.

For me this story has had me running my whole range of emotions and forced me to to my own research , Seems like any forum I visit the site is hot with this story. So many smart people talking for so long with no one truly able to say real or not. I know that just because I have chosen to believe something doesn't mean that what I believe is true.. I could be completely wrong cause I'm human.



posted on Jul, 20 2007 @ 09:23 AM
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11 11,

While that is good work with that picture, all you did was either add credibility to the claims, or show that if it is a hoax, it is a unified effort. However, to me that image screams more that it might be true. Because if the government did actually have inventory of the items they showed in that picture, they would most likely put them to use. Not only that, but those pieces obviously performed a function, so if future drones were created with same functions, it only makes sense for the pieces to look identical.



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