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[HOAX] Isaac CARET - Drones [HOAX]

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posted on Jul, 16 2007 @ 11:40 PM
WOW, moonking

Are you saying that you can now get into that email account? If you can that may be a real big advantage for us.

Please keep us up to date on what you find.

posted on Jul, 16 2007 @ 11:46 PM
No, just saying it exist ,when I tried hot mail or yahoo mail ,it said :no record on file"
also found the site mirrored at

posted on Jul, 17 2007 @ 12:23 AM
If you try to recover the password for his account at gmail, this is the secret question that comes up:

What is your library card number?

I am not suggesting to anyone to try to gain access to his email account, use your own imagination.

posted on Jul, 17 2007 @ 12:57 AM
Just thought I'd point out that has contacts for Morphius & Neo. Didn't someone say earlier that they thought the font was similiar to fonts found in "The Matrix"? Interesting connection, but I think this site is a spin-off of the 1st site. It just feels like someone is trying to cash in on this. I'm still curious to know the motivation on all of this. Isaac photos do look cgi to me, but I have no experience with that. Chad's and the others look pretty real. I have had the whole debate on cgi vs real lean me towards cgi.

posted on Jul, 17 2007 @ 01:30 AM
Yes sveral are trying to cash in on this and the guy who took the fortune city site said he was. he's probably the most honest and straight up from the beginning. The longer they can keep it running the more time they have to set up their gear to sell whatever..roswell is a mystery..look how long thats been going..when someoone hires a forensic document specialist then you will know. Interesting that LMH didnt address the legitimacy of the documents, if they are gov top secret..they have a way to tell. 80's encoding in the fonts was done by cia and kgb..kgb was so bad thats how they knew they were real but no one here or on the other sites has one. we are doing better here on ATS then the other sites that have like 30000 or more views and posts, right now they are just getting to the part the light was all wrong on at least one photo., that was done here about a week or two ago. and they are goiing into matching and speculating the periodic table, that the metal neodynium is what comprises the ship etc, ie some interesting tangents, that i find they can glean from a photo. So they are actually trying to prove its true, instead of its right and above board. . please excuse my typing I have bad vision.

Keep coming as everyone here wwants it right no matter how they feel inside..thats why we are making progress


posted on Jul, 17 2007 @ 02:15 AM

Originally posted by unixoid
If you try to recover the password for his account at gmail, this is the secret question that comes up:

What is your library card number?

I am not suggesting to anyone to try to gain access to his email account, use your own imagination.

I would'nt dare try that ! BTW, something tells me his library card number is'nt "123456789"

posted on Jul, 17 2007 @ 02:25 AM

Originally posted by NGC2736

I wonder what the lawyer or his client have to say about ownership of the pictures?

As I have alraedy mentioned the website is largely based on copyrighted material, the original owner(s) could sue easily.

posted on Jul, 17 2007 @ 05:52 AM

Originally posted by mbkennel
It's a dreadful hoax. Way worse than Titor or even early Serpo.

The "science" sucks and is written at a level for high-schoolers. No answering any useful question.

And 'inches'? So, they're gonna talk about in English units irrelevant crap about how big it is in the report, rather than what the physics and effects of antigravity is?

It's like having a report of an Alien autopsy and featuring how your hot dog you had at lunch smelled better instead of any analysis of ET physiology or genetics.

[yes I am a scientist]

[edit on 26-6-2007 by mbkennel]

First off friend, being a scientist is good *applauds* but just because you can lend some experience in the general perspective of the items in question doesnt make you a deffinitive expert on how or why the technology works. your calling this junk? have you seen how many people are at least giving it the credibility of being (if it is indeed) one of the best hoax's to be witnessed? how could this possibly be junk if its that good of a hoax...assuming it is a hoax.
and further, apparently you missed the part about this research facility being in palo alto, ca. if its in an AMERICAN facility with AMERICAN researchers, why should any of the measurements be in anything else?
you might also have missed the importance of the functionality of a device which weighs less than five pounds and spans less than four feet, but i didnt.


which would imply that a conveniently small and light weight unit would be an impressive piece of technology to market to the individual consumer. oh and about the way the technology itself works? yeah well its ALIEN technology which means if its in research that it would probably be a little hard to get the exact data your expecting considering he had to smuggle everything out....
look if you dont buy into it thats fine but dont write it off as being impossible when clearly this is compelling substance. When clearly its not proveable either way just yet.

My personal opinion? i thought the photo copies were suspicious at first and the originals looked like it was possible do it with cgi the lighting and choppy detail makes it somewhat shady. but the documents and his explanation of the drones being visible? its completely possible that this is the real deal. If it isnt real,its setting a new standard for all those ambitious hoaxers out there, he really should try putting a little more out there, especially of the documents.

posted on Jul, 17 2007 @ 07:27 AM
Another Photograph of Strange Craft Received

Hi all...

Now I find this interesting as it shows a secondary device, perhaps being used to controll the device in the air...

It is also safe to say that this picture depicts a device controlled by us...

Maybe a dated version of the device, or just a variation...

Allthough when you listen to some of the experiences witness's report of the way these devices are said to move (Linda Moulton Howe show or Coast to Coast) you get an impression of a more technically advanced version, hence the original CARET submission...

I just though this picture gave a different light, as it quite clearlly brings it back down to earth in a manner of speaking...

posted on Jul, 17 2007 @ 07:31 AM
The "controller" looks totally chopped onto the pic. Plus the undergrowth seem fairly thick, yet the feet are above it (or is it supposed to be floating in the air???)

[edit on 17-7-2007 by merka]

posted on Jul, 17 2007 @ 08:26 AM
[quoteNow I find this interesting as it shows a secondary device, perhaps being used to controll the device in the air...
The bleach bottle on top with blue cap was supposedly put there to mark this one as a joke, but it keeps reappearing as something new.

posted on Jul, 17 2007 @ 10:05 AM
This drone is CG work i found this on youtube, you can flag this like HOAX!!!!!!

posted on Jul, 17 2007 @ 10:08 AM
Here is another video of this drone, check out similar videos on youtube, now you realy cant tell what is true and what is fake, maybe there isnt realy any UFO - alien spacecraft, who knows, until they show up to all the world and start colaborating with us.

posted on Jul, 17 2007 @ 10:12 AM

Originally posted by October
I was wondering how much work would go into this new site as i have absolutely no knowledge on web design etc but you can register and it has a forum.

The board runs on Joomla, which is a complete content management system.

The website uses a default template, default images, even default text still embedded in the template, where you are supposed te put your own text.
The info on it is a simple copy and paste job from the other sources. If I would have to guess, and experienced person would take maybe a few hours to set the whole thing up. A newbie could still do it in a day.

To me, the site is extremely unproffesional...

posted on Jul, 17 2007 @ 10:48 AM
quite interesting i must say, however i'm not sure how real this is. those pictures look like they have been taken by high quality digital camera. they are supposed to be photo copies taken by a machine from the 1980's and those look really high quality phtotos. he did say some were originals but even then in 1980 i dont think the quality of film was all that spectacular. perhaps there is some truth and fiction in all this to protect the sources of info. perhaps he has received more up to date info from someone still in the research end. i believe our government has invisible technology and "anti gravity" or manipulation of the sort. this would explain allot of the sightings that disappear before your eyes. It may also explain what the mexican air force witnessed with their infared cameras a few years back. that was a case of invisible craft only seen in threw the lense of their cameras but not by plane eye sight. i would be very interested to here more of what issac has to say.

posted on Jul, 17 2007 @ 11:40 AM
Actually film quality was at its height in the 80's. During the 90's and onwards digital photography has overtaken film, and no new film stocks have been developed. Given the quality of the photos, if they are not CGi, they are going to be medium format, in my opinion. Large format on 80's stock would take your breath away. Now if only Isaac (which means "one who laughs") had posted scans of the whole neg...

One point where the high quality does imply CGi is the complete lack of fingerprints, scratches or creases. These "photos" were supposed to have been smuggled out down his shirt.

posted on Jul, 17 2007 @ 11:50 AM
Much to do about nothing
"Rajman1977 is no longer active on Flickr"
The raj pic's I have are labeled "ChadRajman15May16.jpg"(can’t remember where I got them)
In properties it's say's "Creation Software Adobe Photoshop CS2 Macintosh"(I know that doesn't mean they were created picture's)
Does anyone know if the pic's from the original Flickr account have the tag “Creation Software Adobe Photoshop CS2 Macintosh”
I guess what I’m asking here is, do the rajman1977 pic’s appear to have been from someone with a Mac Computer or is this from someone else who “processed” the Pic’s and named them “ChadRajman15May16.jpg” or can we not assume anything because tags can be edited?

posted on Jul, 17 2007 @ 12:00 PM
Guys, could this be to do with the new Indiana Jones film?


Indy 4 News

What do you think? Apparently Area 51 is mentioned in the film, and there are aliens involved. I don't know how genuine this could be, but it's a new lead and something to consider.

What do you reckon?

posted on Jul, 17 2007 @ 12:04 PM
I'm a first time ATS member.... Hi to everyone. Where and when did these.."DRONES" start appearing? I live in Arlington, Tx and I have been breaking my neck to get a glimpse of jus 1 of these crafts. So I take it they are unmanned, or should I say, unaliened crafts? How cum thay haven't been on the news or anything? Sylvia Brown said that the aliens would start to reveal themselves around the year 2007 and that they were here to simply let us know that we are killing ourselves and the Earth....I think we already kno that.... I wonder if she was right. I'm 28 and I am a total believer, even though my wife thinks I'm wasting my time and that I'm crazy. I'm jus glad to see that other people share the same interests as me.... Thanks guys and gals................ Oh yeah, I hope to pick up a very high quality telescope this week... tryn to see what I can get myself into at night. Know of any good starting finds I could look at?? LMK....

posted on Jul, 17 2007 @ 12:29 PM

Originally posted by moonking
Much to do about nothing
"Rajman1977 is no longer active on Flickr"...

The originals haven't gone trough mac. It was c2c webmaster that made them smaller if I remember correctly.

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