Another Apollo 20 alien spaceship video, page 4

it's possible retiredafb made mistakes with certain facts of the mission due to the fact that he's 76 years old... well he claims he's 76 years old...

it's also possible he's a hoaxer.

I don't think we can prove or disprove the apollo 20 mission yet.

Although I did find this floating around on the internet to help show evidence of the alien ship:

Go to www.lpi.usra.edu...
Click Resources
Go to Lunar Atlases, half way down
Click Apollo Image Atlas
Click Search By Feature Name
Type in Izsak, then Submit Query
Scroll down to bottom and look under Izsak, North of
Click on AS-15-P-9625

Right click to save picture
This is a Panoramic photo taken from 117KM in space. Notice the two craters to its left. It was taken on Apollo Mission 15. Revolution 38.
I got this info from going to Scotts posting of UFO on Moon Video. Going to Utube and reading the comment sections. Retiredafb posted the video, he was born in Belgium lives in Rwanda. Web site full of smut.. I scrolled down reading comment section. Rufus wrote about this photo AS-15-P-9625. Lives in Guatamala, subscribes to Retiredafb website. Hashbrow also mentioned this photo. Lives in Afghanistan (shivers up my spine).

Go back to the resources screen
Click Lunar Map catalog
Click Apollo Mission Lunar Photo Index Maps
Go down to Apollo 17, Click
Go to Map with REV 26/27,36,62,65, Click
Download 150dpi resolution Map noticing the big black crater
save picture
zoom in on black crater till its the size of a golf ball
look to left above Izsak notice something
look to right of of black crater by Pirquet, notice something


edit: source: www.ufoevidence.org...

[edit on 25-6-2007 by curiousbeliever]

[edit on 25-6-2007 by curiousbeliever]

www.youtube.com...


Oh goodness me

An interesting thing.

Check out these moon atlases.




www.lpi.usra.edu...

Look in the place that Lear suggests. Orient yourself to center the big black crater on the back side.

Go left to Iszak. Go up.

There are various human drawn lines on the map. There is a brown trapezoid.

To the west of the large area marked "FERMI" and to the north of Iszak, there is an apparently pen-marked "splotch", just inside the border of the trapezoid. Just about at the position suggested. No annotation. Everything else pen marked seems to have a reasonable explanation---outlining the orbit and apparent region of corresponding to the photographic series.

This is a careful official map I believe. Is this unmarked pen splot just a mistake?

I saw two others:

There is a magenta dot inside the crater/sea "HUMBOLDT", about 25S, 80E.

There is a red dot in the crater marked "Pirquet", about 20S, 138E.

www.youtube.com...

On this video from "retiredafb", the caption at 4:21 says

"Vandenberg Twenty, nose is one seven point three South
one one seven point six two East"

at 4:26

"cockpit is one seven point two five South
one one seven point six two East"

at 4:37

"the base is one seven point two zero South
one one seven point six two East
and the base is burried"

Those coords are close to, but not exactly at the brown splotch.

Originally posted by curiousbeliever

Go to www.lpi.usra.edu...
Click Resources
Go to Lunar Atlases, half way down
Click Apollo Image Atlas
Click Search By Feature Name
Type in Izsak, then Submit Query
Scroll down to bottom and look under Izsak, North of
Click on AS-15-P-9625
Right click to save picture
Go back to the resources screen
Click Lunar Map catalog
Click Apollo Mission Lunar Photo Index Maps
Go down to Apollo 17, Click
Go to Map with REV 26/27,36,62,65, Click
Download 150dpi resolution Map noticing the big black crater
save picture
zoom in on black crater till its the size of a golf ball
look to left above Izsak notice something
look to right of of black crater by Pirquet, notice something

curiousbeliever! Wow! I don't have time to do all this! Can you just post the pics of the areas surrounding those craters? That'll save us a lot of time and effort!

And needless to say the beer's on the house! Thanks and Cheers!

Originally posted by mikesingh

curiousbeliever! Wow! I don't have time to do all this! Can you just post the pics of the areas surrounding those craters? That'll save us a lot of time and effort!

And needless to say the beer's on the house! Thanks and Cheers!

Here's the panorama photo from Apollo 17 which supposedly was taken in preparation for a landing site to be used later in Apollo 20:

www.lpi.usra.edu...

You can see an object directly to the right of the two big craters in the middle of the photo. It looks very similar to the spaceship in the video that retiredafb posted, just at a lower resolution. Not too hard to see.

As for the topographic map, John posted a nice picture of it with the brown tic mark in the thread above. Thanks John!

I'm thinking the brown tic mark could possibly be some sort of marker for taking a panorama shot of the spaceship...

[edit on 26-6-2007 by curiousbeliever]

Thanks for pointing out the Apollo images from the LPI. This proves that the "Apollo 20" video is a fake.



As you can see, the image swath is across track, not along track. The fake video travels right down a doctored version of this image.

Case closed.

Originally posted by curiousbeliever
Here's the panorama photo from Apollo 17 which supposedly was taken in preparation for a landing site to be used later in Apollo 20:

www.lpi.usra.edu...

Thanks!

I was looking at the image with a tooth comb and discovered some very strange features / objects near the purported alien craft. I've marked them in white. Look carefully. You may see what I'm seeing!



Particularly interesting is the object towards the lower left which I've marked in red. Looks like a friggin' swept wing aircraft!

Never a dull moment, what?

Cheers!

Has anyone done a search on William Rutledge ?

I just did. Seems they're all dead except This William Rutledge :

William L. Rutledge is executive vice president in charge of the Bank Supervision Group at the Federal Reserve Bank of New York and a member of the Bank’s Management Committee.

No mention of any time working for NASA.

And This guy.

Look closely at the link to his site.

You, our dear readers decide.

Regards,
Lex

Originally posted by disownedsky
Thanks for pointing out the Apollo images from the LPI. This proves that the "Apollo 20" video is a fake.



As you can see, the image swath is across track, not along track. The fake video travels right down a doctored version of this image.

Case closed.

I dont' understand. The image maps showed that 9625 (Apollo 17 panoramic still) was taken right where everybody says it was taken.

Can you elaborate further?

On the Clementine Lunar browser

www.nrl.navy.mil...

The closest coordinates to the 'thing' as seen in the -9625 Apollo panoramic pictures are:

-18 d 47 m
+117 d 25m.

Click on Tool Panels, then "coordinates", enter those in and hit "show center".

Tilt your head (Orient your view) to make the Apollo 17 panoramic go from lower left to upper right, and center at the two "overlapping" craters.

On the Apollo pictures there are two smaller craters to the upper right and directly to the right of the two big overlapping ones. The "wiener" is in the crater to the immediate right, not the upper right.

No weiner in the Clementine photo. Maybe even no crater?


[edit on 26-6-2007 by mbkennel]

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