and then of course, is Indra's many headed iron lightning being a meteorite, and then his completely brushing aside the fact another passage has a similar thundering weapon launching into space instead of falling from the sky, which means meteorites apparently come from earth as well as come to earth. An interesting proposition, no doubt. The way scholars handle this kind of thing, currently, is to ignore it because it doesn't fit in the little box they've designed for ancient texts. You know the box that says "PACK OF LIES"?

Marduk tries to pretend he's not prejudice against the texts but if you read his words carefully, he says things like... "fiction," which assumes he knows it's a fiction and that the hindu people think it's a fiction. I wonder, do they?

i quoted from or mentioned several hindu texts, some poems, some epics, some more modern. you call them a fiction. not all scholars think the ancient texts are lies, no. but ones such as yourself, who do, try to pretend you're being tolerant and understanding of the genius of our forerunners whilst simultaneously accusing them of believing lies, fabrications and fictions. on the one hand you claim the text is referring to a meteorite hitting the earth and on the other hand, you call the work a fiction.

apparently, you want this thread to be closed by drawing attention to it from the mods. not gonna let you do it. ignoring your further responses in this thread.

[edit on 4-7-2007 by undo]

Originally posted by undo
i quoted from or mentioned several hindu texts, some poems, some epics, some more modern.

no you cherry picked a line here a line there and strung them together expecting people to believe they were all connected when they weren't

Originally posted by undo
you call them a fiction. not all scholars think the ancient texts are lies,

theres that claim again
please link to any scholar claiming that ancient texts are lies

Originally posted by undo
no. but ones such as yourself, who do, try to pretend you're being tolerant and understanding of the genius of our forerunners whilst simultaneously accusing them of believing lies, fabrications and fictions.

please link to any time I have said texts were lies
theres only one person lying here, that statement you just made was a blatant out and out lie.
you are a liar, whats that now the third time you've lied in this thread, no wonder you're hung up on the idea that everyone is a liar like you are
they aren't beth
most people are far more honest than you are, thats very clear

Originally posted by undo
on the one hand you claim the text is referring to a meteorite hitting the earth and on the other hand, you call the work a fiction.

if you'd examined the evidence you would see that its a poem
a poem is a work that uses imagination to tell a story
heres that dictionary again

definition of poem
1. a composition in verse, esp. one that is characterized by a highly developed artistic form and by the use of heightened language and rhythm to express an intensely imaginative interpretation of the subject.

you don't understand much at all obviously.

Originally posted by undo
apparently, you want this thread to be closed by drawing attention to it from the mods. not gonna let you do it.

and you finish with another lie
at no time have I asked any mod to close this thread
if they have threatened you with that its because you've lied all the way through it and presented no credible evidence, despite being given every oppotunity

Originally posted by undo
ignoring your further responses in this thread.

ah so the typical response from someone who can't discuss anything like an adult
sticking your fingers in your ears and screaming LALALALALALA won't make whats in your imagination a reality

Hey Undo,
I have read through this thread and the other billion page thread with the Hindu text arguments.

I think you are reading to heavily into it all. Most of this "ancient text" was written down by a guy who "channeled" the info i have been lead to believe.

Its ok to have an imagination. Just realize where the fantasy ends and reality starts.

Originally posted by undo

where did jesus go when he resurrected? and how did he get there? (to heaven on a cloud)
where did the vimanas operate? how did they operate? (in the sky and among the stars. )
can you explain a flying device that can cloak itself, that can travel across the universe, that can hurl projectiles and destory several cities at once? (advanced tech)

how did the eye of ra, nearly destroy the planet? (it was a device of some sort)
where did the egyptians boat of heaven travel? (into the stars)
where did quetzcoatl go to when he left the earth? (to venus)

etc, etc.

Metaphor.

Alternatively, how did Harry Potter win the Quiditch match?

He didn't. It was just a story ....

Whilst some myth may be based on real events, it would be foolish in the extreme to take a subjective translation of a 2,000 year old story, impose modern values and interpretations on it and then assume it all to be a true, literal account of real events. Especially when in the case of the Vedic myths, many of the supposed transplations regarding apparent modern weapons have been entirely made up Whilst others have been quoted well out of context.

Imagine if in 5,000 years time, someone discovers a Harry Potter book ....

The topic is: white pyramid of china may not be the White Pyramid of China

Now... I know all these side trips are diverting, but could you return to the original topic? Side trips certainly deserve their own threads... or you can google the site and bring up older threads that reference the same material.

Back on target, guys.

Hey undo, im not postin about this thread, its about the anunnaki movie. I cant find news on it since you made the thread on them, and that guy said he'd seen a trailer. I cant find any trailer and then is no updated site, do u no anthing about it? much appriciated.

there are three sources of information on the white pyramid that I know of (THE white pyramid has nothing to do with all the lesser and smaller pyramid structures surrounding xian):

it was photographed by the military pilot mentioned in this thread.

it was photographed by a german researcher called hausdorf, who, in his book "The White Pyramid" claims not to have been let closer to the pyramid by the chinese military.

there are some tibetan texts referring to a white pyramid (unfortunately I dont recall which texts. this is something I read years ago).

Mausoleum is just a tomb, the structures in Xian are pyramids. Maoling and Yangling are just names for them. The word "ling" is rather related to a temple or atleast back then i think. I'm chinese, =p but illiterate because i'm in the US.

What makes u think this?

Not been able to find the "Made in China" stamp on it? lol

Originally posted by Marduk

the OP is posting image after image of very flat landscape and claiming that the images have been doctored
thats some claim as the images come from Google Earth
are we supposed to believe that the chinese govt has influence over that as well

lol.

Marduk your trust in Chinese government is unnaturally strong.

Yes there is good reason to believe Google Earth can be doctored, why? Because it has been in the past. Many people on ATS have proven areas to be completely changed, erased, or just flat out blocked out.

Secondly, considering the deals Google has made with China in the past involving censorship, and applications to Chinese communications, I'd say there's more than a possibility there is information people, especially the Chinese don't have access to.

You are also very quick to accuse people of making decisions based on their research while you are yourself are resorting to internet sources such as Wikipedia, which is again, a source one should ever resort to based on the FACT that it is a completely unreliable source for high standards of scholarship.

And Lastly, yes the U.S government is very good at hiding things. I can go on a tangent about this, but After everything that has happened, it's amazing you cannot understand that something may have indeed happened here. In addition to your annoyingly unwillingness to assist with the research being done, you provide little smirks, which to the people trying to actually help and get to the bottom of this, you insult.

Also, Undo, there is something called the Freedom of Information Act. Have you tried utilizing this for possible photographs?

Originally posted by Marduk
it was described as a perfect pyramid with a shining capstone

I read a book on pyramids about 15 or so years ago and there was an article together with a black and picture of a pyramid with a metallic capstone. The story goes that an airforce transport pilot flew through china during WW11 and happen to notice a huge pyramid and he snapped a picture of the pyramid because it had a metallic capstone.
I lost the book and have been trying to find another copy.I cannot remember the title of the book,but I am looking at all the old books about pyramids in the hope that I can find it again. It was a soft cover book and the title could be pyramids of the world or something close to that.The picture showed the pyramid from above and it clearly showed a metallic covering around the capstone. I don't think there is a reprint,so the only choice is to look in libraries and used bookstores. I posted threads in a few forums many years ago asking if anyone else came across the book and picture of the pyramid with a metallic capstone in china but there were no response. I used google earth to search for signs of a huge pyramid but had no luck in find something even close to it.
The pyramid in the picture that was printed in the book looked in good condition with undamaged surface unlike the egyptian pyramids.