Is Robert O. Becker well regarded in the medical and scientific community?, page 1
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Topic started on 23-6-2007 @ 02:18 AM by AceWombat04
I am asking this as a layperson. I've searched the forums and googled but can't seem to find a definitive answer. I ask that any answers to the following questions be supported by links or recommended reading, with my thanks.

1) Is Dr. Becker "for real?" That is to say, is he a bonafide medical doctor and physiologist?

2) Is Becker well regarded by his peers in the medical and scientific community?

3) Was he really a two time Nobel Prize nominee, and if so, in what capacity?

4) Was the quote from his book (which I will post below this) taken out of context, or placed in proper context?

I can find numerous websites that quote the above claims or imply them, but I cannot seem to find an official website where his work can be reviewed, papers he has published (other than published books,) or any sort of official endorsement or confirmation of the claims made.

The reason I am asking is because a rather hard to swallow (but nonetheless interesting) website stated the following regarding medically facilitated mind control programs:

...the mind controllers need an EEG to determine the frequency of one’s brain waves so that they can be matched by a microwave transmitter. Ideas, memories, voices – even commands – can be transmitted by corresponding the frequencies of the microwaves with the EEG brain frequencies. This is the most scientific method of behavior modification and control. Robert O. Becker, MD in his 1985 book, The Body Electric, explains that such a procedure “has obvious applications in covert operations designed to drive a target crazy with voices or deliver undetectable instructions to a programmed assassin." Becker also wrote, “Eventual monitoring of the evoked potential from the EEG, combined with radio frequency and microwave broadcast designed to produce specific thoughts or moods, such as compliance and complacency, promises a method of mind control that poses immense danger to all societies – tyranny without terror." (pp. 319-20) Dr. Becker is a two-time Nobel nominee for his work in biological effects of electromagnetism and is a pioneer in this field.

Source: Escape from MK-ULTRA

It is important to cut through hearsay, misrepresentation, hype, agendas, and embellishment when considering topics of such potential importance. This and other subjects are debated endlessly on ATS, but too often, sources are accepted at face value without asking a question as simple as "is this information regarded as reliable?"

If someone of Dr. Becker's implied standing truly stated the above, I'd like to know whether he is really the medical professional and scientist he is described as being, and if he is not, then I'd like to know that as well. Thanks to anyone who can help answer my questions!

[edit on 6/23/2007 by AceWombat04]


reply posted on 23-6-2007 @ 06:39 AM by Toromos
If you do a search in PubMed for Becker, RO, you come up with 89 records. He does seem to be a prolific researcher in established medical journals. I couldn't find him in any current physician directories, which might mean he is primarily a researcher these days and does not practice.


reply posted on 23-6-2007 @ 09:30 AM by Byrd
Originally posted by AceWombat04
1) Is Dr. Becker "for real?" That is to say, is he a bonafide medical doctor and physiologist?

Yes and no. He's a retired, board certified orthopedic surgeon and apparently was a clinic director.

2) Is Becker well regarded by his peers in the medical and scientific community?

Niether respected nor disrespected as far as his early research goes. I compared the number of citations for him with the number of citations and references for some of his coauthors and found they have more material out and are cited more often.

I see him cited only twice on PubMed. (ooops. Toromos was right. he's in there 89 times.)

3) Was he really a two time Nobel Prize nominee, and if so, in what capacity?

Anyone can be a nominee. I could nominate you, for example. The founder of the "Crips" street gang was (no fooling) nominated for a Nobel Prize.


4) Was the quote from his book (which I will post below this) taken out of context, or placed in proper context?

Robert O. Becker, MD in his 1985 book, The Body Electric, explains that such a procedure “has obvious applications in covert operations designed to drive a target crazy with voices or deliver undetectable instructions to a programmed assassin." Becker also wrote, “Eventual monitoring of the evoked potential from the EEG, combined with radio frequency and microwave broadcast designed to produce specific thoughts or moods, such as compliance and complacency, promises a method of mind control that poses immense danger to all societies – tyranny without terror." (pp. 319-20) Dr. Becker is a two-time Nobel nominee for his work in biological effects of electromagnetism and is a pioneer in this field.

It's probable.

Becker has his own pet theories about the body, and some of his later publications (available only through alternative medicine journals) seem fairly unsubstantiated. He had something on fibromyalgia and electric treatment that has not been taken up although he claims 100% cure rate.

If someone of Dr. Becker's implied standing truly stated the above, I'd like to know whether he is really the medical professional and scientist he is described as being, and if he is not, then I'd like to know that as well.

I haven't time to check his papers (I will later this weekend) but from the bits I've looked into, I wouldn't class him with Pastuer, Curie, Salk, and wouldn't class him as someone I would seriously consider for the Nobel Prize in medicine.


[edit on 23-6-2007 by Byrd]


reply posted on 23-6-2007 @ 12:54 PM by junglelord
He did his work just south of my location and was pivitol in preventing a high voltage line going through NY state.

His book The Body Electric is a incredible read and educational on many levels, from the difficulty in obtaining funding for such research that was considered "Frankenstein" in nature and not well liked and presented huge hurdles in itself. Then there was the lack of scientific papers here but he did find good research in Russia that sent him on the right track. To his ability to regrow limbs on frogs to the discovery of a NY state trapper with a broken femur for seven years that he healed with his research and microcurrents and a silver foil on the fracture.

The Body Electric tells the fascinating story of our bioelectric selves. Robert O. Becker, a pioneer in the filed of regeneration and its relationship to electrical currents in living things, challenges the established mechanistic understanding of the body. He found clues to the healing process in the long-discarded theory that electricity is vital to life. But as exciting as Becker's discoveries are, pointing to the day when human limbs, spinal cords, and organs may be regenerated after they have been damaged, equally fascinating is the story of Becker's struggle to do such original work. The Body Electric explores new pathways in our understanding of evolution, acupuncture, psychic phenomena, and healing.

www.amazon.com...

[edit on 23-6-2007 by junglelord]


reply posted on 24-6-2007 @ 05:49 PM by Byrd
Originally posted by AceWombat04
So if I understand correctly, the consensus is essentially that he was a bonafide doctor of medicine and has published peer reviewed work, but that his work may be viewed by contemporary researchers as dubious or controversial at best.

That's correct. There was a lot of excitement about his work with fractures in the early 1980's... it was well known at the Texas Tech Medical School (where I was getting a degree).

However, by the time he started warning about electrical fields and cell phones, his reputation for having unsubstantiated ideas was notable. I think it's perhaps because of his extreme viewpoints -- while everyone certainly could agree that there might be harm, not everyone was prepared to buy into the "yes it harms everyone and you get cancer and leukemia and so forth!" model.

Data on clusters of medical problems simply didn't bear out his observations.


All I can seem to ascertain about MKULTRA (though I am always 100% prepared to be wrong, as I know my knowledge is limited) is that it, BLUEBIRD, ARTICHOKE, etc. were real attempts at developing offensive means of behavior modification and interrogation techniques (as should be expected for the period, I would imagine,) but that it has never been proved or broadly supported that they or other programs sought or achieved genuine "mind control," or that they were deployed against normal citizens. I believe the congressional hearings I read some time ago indicated that at least a few people were unwittingly dosed with hallucinogens and the like, but that nothing further than that has ever been substantiated. Is that a fair assessment?

After doing a little reading, yes, I think that's a fair assessment. They ddidn't achieve any real form of "mind control" (because if they had, we wouldn't be so diverse.)

I don't know if they used Becker or not (BTW, he did not recommend magnetic pulse devices for fibromyalgia -- as I found out on a second reading of that one page. But he's cited as though it was the subject of one of his papers.) He did coauthor a paper saying that there were high rates of suicide in areas where high-voltage trasmission lines. A number of followup studies contradicted his findings.


reply posted on 16-10-2008 @ 08:53 AM by Anonymous ATS
reply to post by Byrd


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