are you asking to me?

did anyone else see anything significant in the last week? i think it was Monday night, or near to there, i got an email from spaceweather.com for the notice of a cosmic thing, not sure the exact term, but, the planet Venus was apparently highly visible in some parts of the world, and, the Venus was inside the cusp of the crescent moon, this is also the symbol on the islamic flag yes? star in the crescent? i saw the two, moon and venus quite close from my location, but, to those in the know, seeing this Major Symbol in the sky surely has to be something, especially for those of the muslim faith,

oh and i also had someone throw me a huge zinger once, they mentioned about the bible and prophecy etc, they said, 'it's not a prophecy if you make it come true'

so, as far as this year and any ET/false flag stuff goes, sure, if they been planning this for centuries, then gotta have project launch eventually

now i gotta keep reading more on this tenth planet, which is also i think descrbed somewhere in the handboo/, i mean bible,

oh right, my bro and i were smokin herb one morning watching the televangelist humour and we started yakkin about this kingdom of jerusalem thing in revolutions, and the description we translated to be a Giant Cube coming out of the sky, kinda similar to the Borg ship on another teevee show, we laughed smoked, some more and wondered if maybe this could be....

then i read through all this posting and hey, would that not like piss off 100% of anyone with both money investments, and say Lots of Land/Wealth.... seriously, this fits with the earlier parts of this posting, they talk of not upseting the status quo, and yeh, if the 'ever-critical-just-in-time' infrastructure, then holy smokes man, people need their bank accounts and shareholdings and time shares etc, if not that, and no religion gods etc, then omg Panic Extremus, good thing i already live in the hills, them cities gonna be not so good.....

well, sorry if i seem off topic, but, i study All Aspects of this 'field' of research and, there is in my book, no 'off-topic', well, ok, there are some things, but not much......

How many time has the exact same thread , with the exact same story
with the exact same timeline popped up under a different thread name ,
a different story title and with a different situation ? My " guess " is that
August will come and go with no such activity . Although I'd like for one of these whistleblowers , for lack of a better name , would be right . Except
without the possibility of conflict .

We should globally begin print Alien Flyers to defense them against our government.


NWDA (New World Defensive Alliance) has done those flyers some years for now. Some stereotype picture of ET with text: "Don't trust your government. Please Help Us." I think that nwda uses also "We come in peace" even it sounds little bit cliché. Those flyers in lampposts pay attention for sure. First flyers might sounds and looks naive but i'm pretty sure that after August-September they will work. Wide insurrection against our government is best solution or least worst solution in this possible becoming worst case scenario.

Best Regards,
Paul M. Northwoods
NWDA member since 2003.






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I keep typing replies that I am not comfortable posting.

If it hits the fan good luck.

If it doesn't goodbye.

You guys ignoring me or what?

I will say again, treating Aliens as hostiles does not necessarily mean that there will be a war with assured Human destruction.

All that means is we'll will shoot at them if they come close OR if do strange things. Eg. Hover above military base. If we, Humans, were capable of interstellar travel and found a planet with intellegent but not technologically evolved beings. Do you think we would wipe them out if they try and attack our space ships for just observing them in the name of science? Obviously not.

Sopposidly Alien crafts are stealthy, and are capable of evading all our missle technology right...? Well all that means is, that even though the majority of us are hostile with them, they can still observe and gain scientific data from us.

What do you think?

Originally posted by GhostRaven
They instinctively see them as a threat and, by definition, consider anything that can violate us territory at will as a threat.

good, maybe it is time to wipe out the military complex from the Earth... personally I will not shed a tear for this lowest human scum...

if they wish to start a war with a civilization that is technologically 1000s or more years ahead,

I say LET THEM...

Originally posted by Sanctum1972
And why do the False Flag Operation before 9-11-2007?

He might have been able to answer that question but now he's nowhere to be seen.




Well ahem if we all give Ghost Raven a chance to speak here. He only had two posts in this entire thread. Perhaps he was sitting at his desk and has his chin propped up reading oh 8-9 pages now. He can't get in a word in edge wise, with so many people talking at once.


I think we scared him off. When someone comes forward with (possible) delicate information its best not to pepper him with a million questions. Patience is a virtue.

And whoever already labeled this thread as a false disclosure gee thanks. You got a gold star.


After two posts what do you know what is truth and what is a lie?




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i think we are on the verge of a major financial meltdwon in the united states and abroad

there will soon be massive defaults and a deflationary spiral will threaten us. the fed will do it's best to monetize assets but i think they underestimate the amount of dollars that will go poof in this leveraged markets, either way when then try to monetize assets yet not destroy the currency, they may realize they need an additional currency to shoulder some of the burden (that is assuming they are able to stave off the deflationary spiral the defaults start) and the AMERO will be introduced IMO

desperate times call for desperate measures. maybe this "false flag" is what the govt's need to do to rally morale and get the war economies running again, i'm sure the carlyle group wont mind.

what i would like to ask mr RAVEN is are your concerns primarily that in order to carry out something like this that the population will be manipulated into seeing the aliens as hostile aggresive beings? when they are more detatched observers?

also if the governments and militiary's understand how advanced these "adversary's" are they may not see them as evil just as a useful tool to exploit public fear and make money, save economy.

RAven could it be under a situation like this the militiary will just be fighting with there own tails (that appear to be ufo's) for the reasons i stated in the paragraph above and the fighting wont involve an actual war with aliens "which the militiary might know woud be a huge threat to there power, and the country" but instead a simulated fight that scares the people, gets them to accept new laws and less freedoms, and at the same time provides the production necessary to stave off an economic meltdown?

My quess is ATS may have been had again bye yet another hoaxer he was just on 7 minutes ago and never replied so I assume he just reading and laughing to his/herself saying look wht fools I made of them

GhostRaven

Member


Registered: 6/22/2007
Location:

Mood:
Member was on ATS
7 minutes ago.


ATS Points: 853
BTS Points: 3
PTS Points: 2


Just copied the facts that verify his points etc as prrof.

Makes me wonder why I bother with these boards sometimes.

[edit on 23-6-2007 by seenitall]

Ah when I checked he wasn't on- Heh or he's so busy reading the nine pages. Never can tell.
Seenitall don't be so quick to judge. He may reply. Shh lol

[edit on 6/23/2007 by Leyla]

Sorry that I haven't been able to reply since last night.

I am writing these posts from a computer at a library where I have signed in as an anonymous/general public computer user. This means that I won't be able to post at any given time and it also means that I don't have the time to read and respond to every question that is posted on the board. I have skimmed through some of the replies, however, and have the following responses to some of the most important questions:

1) The 'need to know' question is the most important. The reason behind those questions is that any classified material is only shared with government employees if they need to know the truth to perform their job. So what is my 'need to know'? Let me put it this way... do you really think it would be in the government's interest to have state trooper's shooting at Special Ops in alien disguises? Do you think the government wants state resources to be wasted chasing false flag operations or duplicating work? Sure, some 'mistakes' need to be made by state government and it would backfire if even a large minority of higher state employees knew about what was going on... but, in terms of my job, there has to be some coordination between state and fed in regards to these matters. Specifically, selected state officials need to know the difference between what is real and what isn't. This is also why I was shown a real retrieved object and Visitor cadavers. There is more to this line of thinking but I don't have the time to go into it now.

Also, keep in mind that not every area of the country is the same. I study public opinion and the response of government to it. This means that I need to know what will happen, or what the truth is, if I am to accurately predict what the reaction of a town in Alabama will be to the Visitors in comparison to the reaction of a town in Michigan. In other words, if I didn't know the basics of the truth -- and I know that I do not know everything -- I would not be able to analyze the situation correctly or coordinate with state officials once the operations start.

2)As far as monitoring goes: Not everyone in our project is happy with what is going on. The people who also monitor this site -- and know who I am -- are sympathetic to me. The gov is not some evil institution. The people I am hiding my identity from are a (influential) minority.

This might not seem to make sense in light of decades of conspiracy theories, but you have to know that the Visitor issue, so far as it is handled by the government, is rapidly changing. I cannot vouch for the exact numbers... but I sense that far more gov employees have been brought into it during the last few months than have been brought into it over the last 100 years. This is making things 'looser'. Why are they bringing more people in? Because for any large project, no matter its goals, you have to have a certain number of deckhands. This means that any project that goes from the dark to the light is bound to bring in workers who are not happy with it.

3)I tried to give a simplified summary of the military's thinking before. This was unsatisfactory to people. Let me go further. The military knows that the Visitors have superior tech, but they do not think they will go 'all the way' and use it to its fullest extent. Why? Because the Visitors are passing scientists who will use their tech for defense (as they have) and the military thinks they will only respond, one for one, to any individual engagements. I think that this will be true... but only to a certain point. Continous provocation will, I believe, generate new reactions from the Visitors.

Does this contradict my statement that the Visitors aren't totally evil? No... because what I'm saying is that they are basically scientists, not missionaries or social workers. Even a team of biologists that search the jungles for medicines carry rifles in case they cross an aggressive tiger.

Edits galore with this one.

Special ops people wouldn't have a hope in hell fitting into an alien disguise, but hey they'll all be reptillians hey?

Delete my account please mods.

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GhostRaven, if you're telling the truth, then your privacy and safety are already compromised. If the 'government' can keep a secret this big for so long, I don't think they would have any trouble tracking you down. So why not give us the full story or some convincing evidence?

Again, I have been reading some of these posts and I have to say that I am surprised that you guys expect me to write long posts instantly. It took me several minutes to write the above post (which explains my timing issues). The reality is simply that I do not have the time or ability to respond to every single post or write long posts in a matter of seconds. That is just not going to happen (as a sidenote, I now know how every other informant who has ever been on ATS feels. It is impossible to answer everyone at once).

Ok, to continue what I was writing above (I ran out of space):

4)Why I needed to see the craft: This relates to #1. I need to know the difference between real craft and fake ones. As for the real ones, the one I saw was bell or, you could say, thimble shaped. It appeared to be damaged along one side. This was pretty weird, actually, because the exterior in places that weren't burned/discolored seemed to reflect light in strange ways. Only a dull, unshaded form would appear were, normally, you would expect some sort of pure reflection. I noticed this while our briefing officer led us around the object. He said that it was some sort of 'intelligent material' or something like that.

As for the rest of the craft, the top or 'nose' (though I don't know if it was the true front) had been removed for research purposes. The whole vehicle was displayed at a 45 degree angle on some sort of pneumatic pallet (sorry, I am not a mechanic so I may be using the wrong terms) in the middle of a pretty barren looking workshop (no computers or strange gizmos... just basic storage). Actually, the facility it was in was not that impressive. I WAS NOT TAKEN OUT TO A SECRET MILITARY BASE. This part of the briefing occured in an industrial park near a fairly well populated area. It was not out in the desert or undergound or anything. In fact, the nearby companies were all pretty normal ones and I suspect that this location could fit into pretty much any recently developed suburb. Though it was a highly secured room, the overal 'complex' (and I hate to call it that because it wasn't even that big) was mostly dedicated to what we would consider to be 'everyday' technological concerns. Before we entered the security zone we passed what looked like normal scientists/engineers/researchers and none of them appeared to be military. You'd be surprised, actually, at the number who looked like they just got out of college.

Ok, that's all I have time for now.

Biologists don't need rifles in the treetops.

Government employees are monitored.

So many people now in the know, yet one poster.

This has made me extremely angry.

If you're telling the truth in the position you are in you will give us more than this. Pictures, video, more people to tell us. Special ops people will fit into alien costumes? I think not. I want that one explained. I would also love to know how this affects anywhere other than the US.

Please don't insult our intelligence.

There are some serious issues that need to be addressed.

If you really have something important to say, and things have indeed become 'loose' then you will have access to more.

Get others in on it. If you do indeed have something important to say then letting the world know and prepare would be more important than your own life. If you are scared then get someone else to give us some more because if this is true, it is worth the few for the many.



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