posted on Jun, 29 2007 @ 12:13 AM
Alright, I'm going to give this one more try...
Originally posted by Ickey
Chasing after fictional groups without evidence is hardly a good use of time either.
tells the history of the Bavarian Illuminati from their inception until their
absolution. To deny that they ever existed is a fallacy, and one that I'm not going to entertain after this post.
Divert attention away from real issues and real bad eggs.
Care to elaborate on that please? I'm completely confused. What issues and "real bad eggs"?
That may be the real agenda of the illuminati propagandists.
Use fictional groups as a decoy, distract your focus away from the real issues and problems.
Again, I'm going to point you to this website
so that you can read up on it. I think an
excerpt is in order for those that don't go to the link:
The Bavarian Illuminati was founded in 1776 by Adam Weishaupt, who was born a Jew, raised a Jesuit and ended his life as an anti-clerical reformer.
The Bavarian Illuminati had as "its professed object … by the mutual assistance of its members, to attain the highest possible degree of morality
and virtue, and to lay the foundation for the reformation of the world by the association of good men to oppose the progress of moral evil." At first
the Bavarian Illuminati was very popular, enlisting some two thousand members. In the United States, Thomas Jefferson wrote a tribute to Weishaupt's
ideals and reformist zeal.
Now that covers the formation of the order. Here's the part where they were "absolved":
Weishaupt died in Gotha in 1811, although almost two centuries later he is still reviled by conspiracy theorists and religious fundamentalists who
inexplicably still see the invisible hand of the long defunct Illuminati at work behind the scenes of modern world events. The Illuminati has been
variously been accused of everything from causing world wars to conspiring with space aliens in order to bring about a One World Government under
their mysterious rule.
With the effective end of the Bavarian Illuminati in about 1790, many mystic and hermeneutic societies formed and reformed to fill the gap, often with
very grand names and claims to supreme religious or other mystic knowledge. Some were offshoots of Freemasonry. Others borrowed heavily from Islamic,
Cabalistic or ancient Egyptian "knowledge". Alchemy and contacting the spirit world also featured in some of them. Most were short-lived or were
eventually absorbed back into more mainstream societies, like the Masons.
So, as you can see, this isn't quite as clearly cut as you think it is. I want you to read all of what I and others have put here as evidence for
their existence, and then ask yourself if maybe, just maybe, you could have been wrong. If any doubt has been thrown your way, then I'll have done my
job. The evidence is overwhelming, and quite honestly, too large to dismiss by mere opinion alone.
You're going to need something more solid than your word to sway our opinions here I'm afraid.
Also, I find it interesting that everyone claims that the Freemason Fraternity are all members of the Bavarian Illuminati, when in fact they were only
related in the sense that some fringe groups of the Masonic Brotherhood were involved with such a group. Let me know what you think everyone.