Yes, absolutely. Only problem is next decade (or less) will be very violent, so that means setback or maybe push forward in some sense.

I agree. Once China successfully sets up a presence in space the game, if there is one, will be up. The US and other likeminded countries will no longer have a monopoly or control on information regarding space and its many wonders, including the possible presence of other beings visiting us. "Disclosure", if there is any such thing, will be forced out.

Then again, China may be also forced to comply with some unheard of unfathomable intergalactic NDA, no doubt constructed by Greer, to soften the assimilation into the human psyche the reality of alien life on our planet for the last 400,000 years, and so on and so on. Cant win for losing in this arena....

Originally posted by sb2012
Yes, absolutely. Only problem is next decade (or less) will be very violent, so that means setback or maybe push forward in some sense.

The next decade will be very violent? Did your tarot cards tell you that? Isn't it always pretty "violent" here on Earth?

Originally posted by Diplomat
What do you think?

Very unlikely. Even the youngest person on this board probably won't live another 90 years. Most of us will be dead even before that. That gives us a span of 90 years or so out of the millions of years before and after that time when aliens might have shown up or could show up. That's a pretty tiny little window of opportunity for such a thing to be revealed or discovered.

For some reason, I always thought the year 2378 always had a nice ring to it for the discovery of aliens. And even then, I figure it will be in the form of a very weak radio signal from a planet around 15,000 light years away, so even if their signal contains something we can understand (which is a big IF), there will be no practical way of communicating with them.

No i reckon First contact will probably come within the 21st or 22nd century. At the rate we are advancing i would say interplanetary space travel is definetaly probable within the next 100 years, I mean

In theory, we could probably send pioneers out into space to colonise another planet. It would just be impractical:

Space ships move to slowly.
The Size of the ship would have to be on an immensely enormous scale.
There's no way there would be enough supplies on the ship to sustain the travellers. etc etc


As for the violence thing, i think it is highly probable that we will see some kind of conflict on a planet-wide scale, but it will be nothing like previous world wars, probably just Governments hiding in underground bunkers pushing red buttons, in effect, WW2 i think there were more civilian casualties and it was less battlefield fighting than the Great War. A WW3 would just be the next step after this.


Going back to the point about us living to see the "first contact" i think with advancements in medicine its very probable that our lifespans or the lifespans of our children will easily reach 90 and still be in good health (this also has its problems, ie, the ever increasing population of elderly people)

Did you know that in Scotland there are more Pensioners than school children?

Originally posted by wolf359

Going back to the point about us living to see the "first contact" i think with advancements in medicine its very probable that our lifespans or the lifespans of our children will easily reach 90 and still be in good health (this also has its problems, ie, the ever increasing population of elderly people)

Did you know that in Scotland there are more Pensioners than school children?

I can't afford to live to be really old. I have no pension. As it is, I'll pretty much have to work until I die. I don't want to work until I'm 135. That's too long. I'll bump off an evil politician or religious leader before then and retire in prison. Three hots and a cot, free medical, and I'll be too old for anyone to want to bone me up the rear.

Originally posted by SuicideVirus


I can't afford to live to be really old. I have no pension. As it is, I'll pretty much have to work until I die. I don't want to work until I'm 135. That's too long. I'll bump off an evil politician or religious leader before then and retire in prison. Three hots and a cot, free medical, and I'll be too old for anyone to want to bone me up the rear.

Actually, it's quite worrying, this whole "ageing population" thing

Our State Pensions are going to be paid to more people, with less working taxpayers to pay for it, now, im dont really know much about America's welfare system, but here in the UK, we might be looked on to be living in a "nanny state" the welfare state already provides for disadvantaged groups in many ways, if the elderly population were to grow, this would put an enormous strain on our "cradle to the grave" system of benefits, meaning,

Retirement age (and indeed, the age at which state pension can be claimed) will be much higher than what it is at the moment (65 i think it still is unless it has gone up as it is planned)

Taxes may be raised to accomodate for this increase in pension cost

Money might also be taken and other benefits cut or discontinued to provide for the elderly.

By Diplomat

I think in our lifetimes we will find out the truth about ETs visiting Earth in one way or another,

There are many people here on earth who know the reality of ETs and even understand them to some degree but who (besides ATSers) listens to them! People are waiting for the governmental stamp of approval before they believe anything and that will not happen. ETs will always be a Ha Ha subject for upper level government. The place that people will learn about ETs will be right here and on C2C. The subject will gradually become more and more mainstream. Millions of people listen to C2C now so there must already be a lot of believers!

You can believe what you want, but I'm not going to believe a bunch of false prophets looking for attention on the internet.

If you are in contact with aliens then invite me to come contact them with you. If you can't do that, then at least take a picture or ask them for some kind of artifact. If you can't do any of those things then don't waste my time with your stories...

Originally posted by plumranch
There are many people here on earth who know the reality of ETs and even understand them to some degree but who (besides ATSers) listens to them! People are waiting for the governmental stamp of approval before they believe anything and that will not happen.

I agree with this. There's enough people who know the reality first-hand and that's how it needs to spread, with more first-hand contact. Waiting for an official government discolsure broadcast will never happen.

The more that people enter space, the more likely the first-hand stories and experiences will spread to others.

By Diplomat:

take a picture or ask them for some kind of artifact. If you can't do any of those things then don't waste my time with your stories...

Again, where there is smoke (evidence) there is fire and the firemen (men in black) come in and put out the fire! So no smoking, not yet! Not a difficult concept!

Evidence or balloon debris? He was young and grew up in the era of sci-fi and if my respected military father brought home tin foil and told me it was alien craft material, I'd believe him. Plus he himself said he didn't see it take on any special properties.

Amannamedquest:

himself said he didn't see it take on any special properties.

1. Jesse reaffirmed the information in the "original" Roswell story.
2. Jesse's dad wanted the family to see the debris because the dad thought the debris was from a craft not to this world ie. ET.
3. Jesse comes across as a very credible person.
4. Jesse said his dad would not have bothered to bring in a pile of balloon debris, wake up the whole family and show them.

Originally posted by Diplomat


You can believe what you want, but I'm not going to believe a bunch of false prophets looking for attention on the internet.

If you are in contact with aliens then invite me to come contact them with you. If you can't do that, then at least take a picture or ask them for some kind of artifact. If you can't do any of those things then don't waste my time with your stories...

So you clearly don't believe there is a chance that there is other intelligent life out there?

believing theres other intelligent life somewhere in the galaxy & believing ETs are visiting earth are two diffirent things



[edit on 22-6-2007 by yeti101]

By wolf359:
So you clearly don't believe there is a chance that there is other intelligent life out there?

I think what you can believe is that dip is always the skeptic and plays the debunker whenever.