Anyone Not Believe There's a NWO/Illuminati Conspiracy?

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posted on Feb, 28 2008 @ 04:42 AM
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Can you provide solid refferences to the quotes you offered as "proof"

Also You forgot this quote:

"The fight which Fascist Italy waged against Jewry's three principal weapons, the profound reasons for which may not have been consciously understood (though I do not believe this myself) furnishes the best proof that the poison fangs of that Power which transcends all State boundaries are being drawn, even though in an indirect way. The prohibition of Freemasonry and secret societies, the suppression of the supernational Press and the definite abolition of Marxism, together with the steadily increasing consolidation of the Fascist concept of the State – all this will enable the Italian Government, in the course of some years, to advance more and more the interests of the Italian people without paying any attention to the hissing of the Jewish world-hydra."

-Mein Kampf, Adolf Hitler, Volume Two - The National Socialist Movement Chapter XIII: German Alliance Policy after the War, 1924, Translated 1943

If this has come up then i am sorry. I know i am trolling but i have a headache and couldn't afford the mind space that came with it to read through the whole thread. Sorry.

I know i'm going to get flamed and fair enough, you are all pasionate in what you believe. However I really would like to look up those quotes and I'd also like to ask, but without offending, how does Adolf Hitler fit into this as he used The protocols Of Zion in order to gain control of a totalitarian state which is the closest the world has come to a NWO yet.

Am I missing something? Was he good or bad? I honestly believe in freedom of speech, so please feel free to speak freely.

I'm really looking forward to responses on this.

I have yet to be able to confirm the George Washington quote. Can someone provide reference? Written? speech? I didn't think the worl illuminati was used back then, just interested and i want to see the quote in context.

Thanking you all and thanks in advance.




posted on Mar, 10 2008 @ 10:38 AM
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“The Illuminati can be traced back thousands of years to Sumer, Babylon, Egypt and still further into what we call pre-history. Through the centuries they have been working constantly to centralize global power and complete their 'Great Work' global dictatorship. Behind the apparent randomness of world events has been the Illuminati secret network that is privy to knowledge the rest of the people never hear about. The network is controlled by ancient interbreeding bloodlines and their offshoots headed today by some thirteen 'elite families', which are structured in a DNA hierarchy. These include the Rothschilds, Rockefellers, House of Lorraine, Habsburgs and the Thurn und Taxis dynasty from Bergamo.” -David Icke, “Tales from the Time Loop”

The bloodlines’ agenda, their “Great Work,” which is nothing short of world domination, has exoterically been called “The New World Order” by many politicians and Masonic authors. The Old World Order was characterized by monarchies, countries with independent standing armies, metals and fiat currency. The New World Order will be characterized by One-World government, open borders, a world army, world court, and a world cashless credit-based currency managed via microchips.

“The New World Order is not a 'conspiracy' in the strictest sense of the term - it is an agenda. The agenda is orchestrated by a power elite that thinks it has the divine right to commandeer total control of your life. But who are 'they'? Who are the 'power elite'? The UN, the EU, the Council on Foreign Relations, the Bilderberg Group, the Trilateral Commission, the Rockefellers, the Rothschilds, the Royal Institute of International Affairs, the Club of Rome. The list goes on and there have been many books written that cover the history of these groups and how they connect to each other … The agenda is a worldwide consolidation and centralization of power into the hands of an all-encompassing World Government. This system will evolve from the European Union, (already in place) the American Union, (derived from NAFTA) and the Asian Union. When these three models are in existence, they will be merged together to create the One World Government.” -Paul Joseph Watson, Order Out of Chaos (8-9)

“I would emphasise that I am exposing an Agenda, not a conspiracy as such. The conspiracy comes in manipulating people and events to ensure the Agenda is introduced. These conspiracies take three main forms: conspiring to remove people and organisations that are a threat to the Agenda (the assassination of Diana, Princess of Wales); conspiring to put people into positions of power who will make the Agenda happen (George Bush, Henry Kissinger, Tony Blair, etc.); and conspiring to create events which will make the public demand the Agenda is introduced through problem-reaction-solution (wars, terrorist bombs, economic collapses). In this way all these apparently unconnected events and manipulations become aspects of the same conspiracy to introduce the same Agenda.” -David Icke, “The Biggest Secret” (13)

When confronted with a conspiracy of this magnitude, many say it is impossible because someone would have spilled the beans. If there was a huge global conspiracy for world government, someone would come out and say something. The fact is that Congressmen, Senators, secret society members, and Illuminists themselves have publicly stated and written entire books about what they are doing! When asked how the American people would respond to the inconsistencies of the JFK assassination/Warren Commission report, CIA director Allen Dulles simply said, “The American people don’t read.” The conspirators know the general public doesn’t read and the books they write don’t attract popular readership.

“The past record of man is burdened with accounts of assassinations, secret combines, palace plots and betrayals in war. But in spite of this clear record, an amazing number of people have begun to scoff at the possibility of conspiracy at work today. They dismiss such an idea merely as a Conspiratorial View.” -Political Commentator G. Edward Griffin

“The individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists.” -FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover

"Fifty men have run America and that's a high figure." - US Ambassador Joseph P. Kennedy

There exists a semi-secret cabal of globalists bent on one world government under the United Nations, world military through expansion of NATO, world bank/cashless currency and a micro-chipped population. The conspirators are a group of bankers, businessmen, politicians, media owners/personalities, Illuminati families, and secret society elites. They implement their power through the vehicles of Free Masonry, the Bilderberg Group, Bohemian Grove, Skull and Bones, the Council on Foreign Relations, the Trilateral Commission, and the Committee of 300 to name just a few. Their agenda for world governance has been known to secret society elites and Illuminati families for centuries as “The Great Work,” though nowadays it is politically referred to as “The New World Order.”



posted on Mar, 10 2008 @ 10:41 AM
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The New World Order is already nearly complete with the United Nations increasingly assuming the role of world government; the world court already exists in the Netherlands; NATO is in place to expand into the world army; World Bank/IMF are centralizing banking; and Union currencies like the Euro and the coming Amero are consolidating world currency. The European Union has centralized Europe, The North American Union (SPP) is now underway, and so is the Asian Union (APEC). The end result and stated mission is global government under the unelected communist-based United Nations. They want to have one all-powerful world King/President with a world army at his disposal. They want a top-down system of global governance that dictates world law from a centralized body and complete interdependence of all nations, economically, politically, and militarily.

“The New World Order system of world conquest has always been visible, but it is so hulking and massive that it has remained hidden in plain sight. One of the most common pre-conditioned responses I hear from the average compartmentalized individual is that there couldn’t be a society of people working for world government. Those in denial proclaim, ‘It’s too big… it would unravel… they couldn’t keep it hidden…’ The average person judges the world according to their moral compass. Because most individuals are not ruthless, sociopathic control-freaks, they cannot even begin to fathom the dark gulfs that are the souls of the servants of the global elite. The New World Order is a synthesis of the survivors of empires, of super-merchant families, of barbarian kings, of banking families established in the middle-ages, and of the royal families of Europe. Over time, they have learned that if they can simply conceal the true magnitude of their power and install puppet rulers from the cultures they dominate, the people will accept greater forms of tyranny. In the late 20th Century, as the formation of a true world government entered its final stages, the globalists began to do what was unthinkable just a few years before. They began to admit that there really was a move towards a New World Order, complete with a World Court, World Taxes and a World Army to enforce its despotic laws. Just a few years ago, the average man on the street refused to even admit the possibility of a world government. Now that same individual will bellow, ‘Yes, there’s a world government – and we need it to protect ourselves from terrorism!’ The globalists’ plan is so far along that now they must admit that world government is a reality. Their propagandists are hailing the New World Order as the only system that will keep us safe and secure. In reality, it is the world government itself which is conducting the terrorist acts.” -Alex Jones, 911 Decent into Tyranny

For decades now politicians, the corporate controlled media, and public schools have been promoting this One-World agenda as being an inevitable, advantageous step-forward for humanity. They say a world government, world army, and currency will unite us as a global community putting an end to all wars and poverty. This is simply not true. There have been more wars fought in the 60+ years since the 1945 forming of the United Nations than in the rest of recorded history before the UN - over 140 wars. This means the United Nations has failed its single reason for existence – to end all wars.

H.G. Wells, the famous author of Time Machine, War of the Worlds, and The Invisible Man, was secretly a member British Intelligence, Committee of 300, a Mason, and a Fabian. He was very familiar with the globalists’ One-World agenda and wrote many books outlining it with titles like: The Open Conspiracy, The Shape of Things to Come, World Brain, A Modern Utopia, and The New World Order.
“The political world of the … Open Conpiracy must weaken, efface, incorporate and supersede existing governments … The Open Conpiracy is the natural inheritor of socialist and communist enthusiasms; it may be in control of Moscow before it is in control of New York … The character of the Open Conspiracy will now be plainly displayed … It will be a world religion …The Open Conspiracy will appear first, I believe as a conscious organization of intelligent, and in some cases wealthy men, as a movement having distinct social and political aims, confessedly ignoring most of the existing apparatus of political control, or using it only as an incidental implement in the stages, a mere movement of a number of people in a certain direction, who will presently discover, with a sort of a surprise, the common object toward which they are all moving. In all sorts of ways, they will be influencing and controlling the ostensible government." -H.G. Wells, “The Open Conspiracy: Blue Prints for a World Revolution” 1928

Writing books like “The Open Conspiracy” and explaining outright the nature of their plans for scientific dictatorships – the conspirators hide out in the open. By reading about our ever encroached upon freedom, we accept it as inevitable. It is called “predictive programming” and continues being used today in books, magazines, movies, and other forms of mass media. The ideas are propagated into the public mind as hypotheticals or science-fiction. This desensitizes and pre-conditions populations to accept the incremental implementation of these supposedly ficticious scientific dictatorships. As the global technocracy creeps up around us, we have already been subconsciously programmed to accept such a future.

“Fabians like H.G. Wells who wrote so eloquently on the New World Order with such books as The New World Order, A Modern Utopia, The Open Conspiracy: Blue Prints For A World Revolution was a wolf in sheep clothing. H.G. Well’s made the New World Order something that sounded advantageous to everyone, a Utopia of sorts. That is not what it will be.” -Fritz Springmeier, Bloodlines of the Illuminati

In 1933 H.G. Wells published “The Shape of Things to Come” which was supposedly a science-fiction work about a world state ruled by a benevolent dictatorship. However, this book accurately predicted the Second World War to start around 1940 originating from a German/Polish dispute. It went on to predict that the agenda for world government would succeed on its third attempt around 1980 following some event(s) that would occur in Iraq. Though 1980 was slightly early, Wells’ prophecy is looking probable.



posted on Mar, 10 2008 @ 06:02 PM
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The NWO tried to take over, but Vince McMahon put the smack down on them.

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posted on Mar, 11 2008 @ 05:28 AM
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i think the nwo is real but the iluminati is not

becuase the nwo is more real in the world today then the illuminati is



posted on Mar, 11 2008 @ 07:44 PM
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Moloch is referenced in metaphor to the owl in puff n stuff

They like to inbed their metaphors into modern culture. Well considering every thing has a metaphors about one to come, so everyone just waits for him. I would say yes.



posted on Mar, 27 2012 @ 10:51 AM
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This a a great thread with lots of historical detail, but is too much for me to handle at a sitting... for instance, what about the 1897 international jewish conference in basel on banking, how about the formation of the BIS right after the market crash in 1929 and its current location in Basel, how about the movie, The International, etc.
so i use web 2 pdf convert add on to mozilla... it actually works, lets you download the entire page plus ads of the discusssion, e.g., all of page 1, etc each would be a separate page.
sometimes material disappears, no no no not ats, but elseqhere, and this keeps a reference on your own computer.





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