US destroying Iraq with impunity, new study suggests

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The United States and its allies are killing Iraqi civilians, stealing Iraq's oil and destroying the nation's heritage with total impunity, according to a report released jointly today by 30 NGOs which concluded that The US Coalition is the principal cause of Iraq’s current ills.

The 117-page War and Occupation in Iraq reveals that the US has established broad legal immunity in Iraq for its military forces, for private security personnel, for foreign military and civilian contractors, and even for the oil companies doing business with Iraq and that no matter what crimes the Coalition commits, Iraqis now or in the future face legal barriers if they seek accountability

"There is an increasing air war that results in heavy casualties as well as the daily killing of civilians at checkpoints, during house searches, by snipers, and by ground bombardment," James Paul, executive director of the co-publisher Global Policy Forum, said. "Nearly a million Iraqis have died due to the effects of the occupation and 4 million have fled from their homes. A dozen cities have been destroyed by U.S. attacks."

It also highlights the US Coalition forces' use of indiscriminate and especially injurious weapons that are banned by international convention or widely considered unacceptable and inhuman, including a napalm-type incendiary weapon as well as white phosphorous munitions, the latter against ground targets in densely populated areas.

The study provides evidence on how, under the control or influence of US authorities, public funds in Iraq have been drained by massive corruption and stolen oil, leaving the country unable to provide basic services and incapable of rebuilding.

The tip of the iceberg people, they dont tell you half the things that go on over there.

So yes, there are independent people studying whats going on in Iraq, and whoever it is, we always find the same thing: this war is completely immoral, and they lie about it to us on a regular basis. It always happens with all sides of every war.

Destroying Iraq with impunity, but its to stop Al-Queda? Folks, Al-Queda was a computer code name the CIA gave the groups it controlled to fight with the muja-hadeen in Afghanistan against the Soviet expansion.

This is a war of aggression, a war for conquest and occupation. It definately is not for liberation and freedom, as the fruits of the labor clearly show.

[edit on 20-6-2007 by LightWorker13]

This "study" is more of an opinon.What is an NGO:"non-governmental organizations".Who makes up an NGO:Representatives of independent citizen organizations.Why:voices for the concerns of ordinary people in the international arena.Their agenda :NGOs include the outspoken advocates of human rights, the environment, social programs, women's rights and more."NGOs have always been confused about their identity - part market institution providing a cost-effective service against alternative providers, part social actor pushing for more fundamental change".
"They must be exemplars of the societies they want to create, and work much harder to mainstream civic values into the arenas of economic, social and political power." I think they are a little biased.More.

[edit on 20-6-2007 by rdang]

biased or not, Germany did the same liberation trek thru europe. America did fund them to beat the Russians. Bush is going to turn on Osama a family business partner and start hunting him? RIGHT, that's exactly why they haven't found him yet. Matter of fact America the courty was founded and expanded much the same way. Why would it be any different now?

nothing new under the sun..

Well you think info that comes from official sources arent biased?

We can go up and down this roller coaster all day long, it really boils down to what you wanna believe. Believe what you want, but innocent people will still be dying until we put and end to this putrid war.

[edit on 20-6-2007 by LightWorker13]

Not only did US balkanize entire poor country and killed countless civilians, but what is most sick, they do it for Israel. I am not sure, why are they THAT stupid. Maybe on purpose.

Here are the 30 unbiased NGO's:

Arab Commission for Human Rights • Center for Constitutional Rights
Center for Development of International Law • Code Pink Council on International and Public Affairs • Fellowship of Reconciliation Global Action on Aging • Global Exchange • Global Policy Forum Hague Appeal for Peace • Instituto del Tercer Mundo • Institute for Policy Studies
International Center for Law in Development • International Women’s Tribune Center Iraq Analysis Group • Jewish Voice for Peace • Lawyers’ Committee on Nuclear Policy Mennonite Central Committee • Middle East Research & Information Project Nuclear Age Peace Foundation • PLATFORM • Presbyterian United Nations Office Protection of Human Rights Defenders in the Arab World • Social Watch Tavola della Pace • Transnational Institute • United for Peace & Justice United Methodist Church, General Board of Church and Society US Labor Against the War • Weltwirtschaft, Ökologie & Entwicklung (WEED) Women’s International League for Peace and Freedom
www.globalpolicy.org...www.globalpolicy.org...

I decided to research one of these at random, I picked United for Peace and Justice, since that sounds like a good idea, let see:

United for Peace and Justice is a coalition of more than 1300 local and national groups throughout the United States who have joined together to protest the immoral and disastrous Iraq War and oppose our government's policy of permanent warfare and empire-building.

www.unitedforpeace.org...

Ok, hardly unbiased so far...lets dig deeper.

Members of UFPJ:
www.unitedforpeace.org... s.06.10.24.xls

Many national organizations are members of the UFPJ coalition, including: American Friends Service Committee, Black Radical Congress, Center for Constitutional Rights, CODEPINK, Friends of the Earth, Global Exchange, Gold Star Families for Peace, Green Party of the United States, Greenpeace, Iraq Veterans Against the War, Military Families Speak Out, National Organization for Women, National Youth and Student Peace Coalition, Not in Our Name, PAX Christi USA, RainbowPUSH Coalition, September 11th Families for Peaceful Tomorrows, TrueMajority, US Campaign to End the Israeli Occupation, US Labor Against the War, Veterans for Peace, Vietnam Veterans Against the War, and War Resisters League. For a complete list, please click here.

www.unitedforpeace.org...
You will have to navigate the site yourself to see the whole list of members since my linking ability seems to be limited. Unsuprisingly they leave these groups off the main website:

League of Revolutionaries for a New America
Democratic Socialists of America
Left Turn
Black Radical Congress (BRC)
Democracy Rising
Communist Party USA
Plus many others.

Again I picked Democracy Rising since again, it sounds like a good thing...

Here is it's director Kevin Zeese
en.wikipedia.org...

democracyrising.us...




Anyhow, nice try making the report sound so mainstream.

And in other news, the sky is still blue overhead....

Open a newspaper and you will see that this report is no exaggeration. Iraq is free of Saddaam, yes, and this is a good thing, but look at the damage that is being caused to Iraq, now. I am constantly seeing in the news things like, just last night, US troops attacked a school because they thought it was a terrorist base, and many children died. (I do not recall the exact number) They claimed that in their surveillance that they had not realized it was a school. Umm... hello? Are these guys completely incompetent, or do they simply not care enough to check? If I were living in Iraq, I would be at least as scared of the US troops as I would be of terrorists.

I think this video alone says alot.


Also during the battle of fulluhjah. www.counterpunch.org...

"U.S. troops sealed all roads to Falluja and urged women, children and non-fighting age men to flee, but said they would arrest any man under 45 trying to enter or leave the city."

Not allowing men under 45 to enter or leave means that the military considers them to be combatants. What if the US military was going to smash your city and told you ( if your a male under 45) that if they see you try to leave theyll arrest you and if you stay then your a combatant. Especially in a place where they are already probably afraid of the US troops and what those insurgents might do to them if they cooperated with US troops. Thats very sick in my opinion.

I saw footage of a village in Afghanistan where these special forces were driving through a ghost town and they were describing how they called in close air support that dropped multiple 1000lbs bombs on the buildings of this village and nearly destroyed every building in the village. Noone lived there anymore. Who knows how many civilians were ripped appart for that "battle." I couldnt find it on youtube but im sure its on the net somewhere.

I suspect that when we finally are forced to leave the middleast the numbers of dead civilians will shock the world and might even get close to the deaths cause by the people who ruled those nations before we got there.

[edit on 20/6/07 by Pfeil]

Originally posted by Pfeil
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I suspect that when we finally are forced to leave the middleast the numbers of dead civilians will shock the world and might even get close to the deaths cause by the people who ruled those nations before we got there.

In Iraq alone, 655.000+ from 2003 to end of 2006 and more than 3 million died since 1991 because of air strikes and sanctions, over 500.000 children.

Now Zionists want new war in Iran, with 10x more victims. Luckily Iran will at least retaliate and get outside support to crush Israel and end all this mess.

Iraq Body Count From the beginning of the war till today.

[edit on 21/6/07 by Pfeil]

Originally posted by sb2012 but what is most sick, they do it for Israel.

Please stop trying to change the subject. That's a theory for another discussion. Just as a reminder the subject is US destroying Iraq with impunity.

Thank you.

IF the U.S. military was destroying Iraq with impunity you would easily know. Like firebombing equivalent, millions of Iraqis dead, etc. etc.

If the United States wanted to, as deltaboy said, it could slaughter much of the population without much trouble. I don't think that the motivation is malicious, but as with any war, there's collateral damage.

Over the course of about a decade and a half, the US government and its military has killed millions of Iraqis, either thru war or thru sanctions which caused the death of conservatively 500,000 Iraqi children, the UN says.

www.globalpolicy.org...

Even the UN reports outline how there is massive devastation going on in Iraq right now. UN reports say it, independent reports say it, I mean what more do you need?

This war should end. Its unneeded, its costly, and the government lied to the people to be able to start it. Its not for freedom and liberation, its for control and profit, and further racheting up the new world order, as well as protecting the US dollar, from countries like Iraq and Iran who had threatened it by switching to euros, especially with oil. Thats why they went into Iraq, thats why they want to go into Iran.

Originally posted by LightWorker13
Over the course of about a decade and a half, the US government and its military has killed millions of Iraqis, either thru war or thru sanctions which caused the death of conservatively 500,000 Iraqi children, the UN says.

www.globalpolicy.org...

The article you cited says nothing about this, and its not a U.N. document to boot. Got any other evidence of these millions of Iraqis killed?

Even the UN reports outline how there is massive devastation going on in Iraq right now. UN reports say it, independent reports say it, I mean what more do you need?

Can you please link us to the U.N. report of massive devastation indicating millions are dead? Thanks.

This war should end. Its unneeded, its costly, and the government lied to the people to be able to start it. Its not for freedom and liberation, its for control and profit, and further racheting up the new world order, as well as protecting the US dollar, from countries like Iraq and Iran who had threatened it by switching to euros, especially with oil. Thats why they went into Iraq, thats why they want to go into Iran.

Ok, thats your opinion. Fine. But if thats why they went to Iraq, why didn't they invade France, Germany, and the rest of Europe who are already using the Euro with little concequence to the U.S. dollar? Or is it the proposed change of the oil standard that you meant? If so, do you really believe that a couple small countries changing the way they sell oil will really crush the U.S. dollar to the point that the U.S. would go to war over it?

UNICEF released a report in 1999 that detailed how US sanctions were directly related to the deaths of millions of Iraqis, including 500,000 children. Unfortunately there is no link to the actual report from UNICEF, I dont think they published the full report on the internet, but here is a link.

www.geocities.com...

And, the oil and dollar was just one of many reasons they went into the Middle East. American interests are deep in this region, not only for oil, but its strategic location and as well as occult reasons we wont get into.

Controlling the oil was vital, because the Iranians and Iraqis were pumping TOO MUCH oil.

I dont know if you all remember, but in the early 90s, the newspapers and media talked about how Iraq is pumping too much oil, too much oil, I remember it. You see the plan is to create a fake peak oil scam to jack up the prices and invade foreign countries. We are overflowing with oil, they even discovered new reserves in the gulf of mexico, in Alaska, Peak Oil is a scam.

But for a long time, the countries in the Middle East have not done what the big banks said, they pumped the oil, used it to their advantage, and but the globalist at a disadvantage. In fact, the sanctions on oil did the job of restricting the oil to create a peak oil crisis. But, they still werent doing as they were told. The Illuminati want control of the oil completely, so in comes invasions to remove the "problem" of Saddam and the Iranian government. Well, those countries dont play ball with the globalists, and they hate that, so they want to destroy them, its pretty simple.




[edit on 22-6-2007 by LightWorker13]

Originally posted by LightWorker13
UNICEF released a report in 1999 that detailed how US sanctions were directly related to the deaths of millions of Iraqis, including 500,000 children. Unfortunately there is no link to the actual report from UNICEF, I dont think they published the full report on the internet, but here is a link.

www.geocities.com...

First off, they were not just US sanctions, they were UNSC sanctions. Second of all, the reason the UN sanctioned Iraq was the UNSC agreed that until Iraq met all the conditions of the UNSC, there would be sanctions to change Iraq's behavior. Blame Iraq for not meeting those conditions or blame the UNSC for putting them in place, however don't solely blame the US for the Sanctions. The person causing the suffering of Iraqi's was Saddam Hussein, I would put the blame where it belongs.

Originally posted by Pfeil

I think this video alone says alot.

Context is everything you know, Pfeil. And now as Paul Harvey says, here is the rest of the story.

www.channel4.com... /middle_east/us+military+responds+to+fallujah+video/254013

A ground commander saw this crowd come out along the road and fire at the Marines. That commander had already asked an F16 pilot overhead to target a building from where insurgents had fired.
So when the crowd appeared and the pilot asked what to do, the ground commander knew the pilot was looking at the same hostile crowd as he was and could give the order to bomb them immediately.
"As the F-16 aimed on the building, the pilot saw a group of people come running out of the building, around the corner, and towards the Marine unit under fire. When the pilot queried about the group, the JTAC cleared him to engage...those were the people shooting at the Marines."

Lt Col Steven Boylan, Director, Combined Press Information Center, Baghdad.

I know you will probably not believe the Army's claims just like the article. The engagement was during the dark at night if I remember correctly, which is why the crowd is acting like it did.

Couldn't they have been running, especially since it was in the darkness of night, because they heard the plane and knew it was going to bomb the building they were using? Common sense.

No one disputes that Saddam was a monster, but our government is no better, that is the fact I try to get through to people...all governments cannot be trusted.

And I think America must be held accountable for its actions. Sanctions you put on them, or helped put on them to be politically correct, led to the deaths of Iraqis, hundreds of thousands of them. Is that no wrong? Should America be exempt from consequences because Saddam was a monster? Should the Iraqi people have to suffer and die because Saddam wouldnt follow orders?

People say Iraq and Iran did not and are not complying with UN mandates, like for inspections and stuff. Rudy G in the last debate really lied to the people when he said that Saddam had not complied with IAEA inspectors, of course he did, inspectors were allowed to roam up and down Iraq looking for weapons and they found nothing. Iran has let inspectors in as well, they are not disobeying....so why the lies in the media?

archives.cnn.com...

www.iht.com...

Iraq did not disobey orders, they actually followed them this time. They allowed inspectors in, but your media, and your presidential candidates LIE and tell you that Saddam didnt, and now we are there destroying them with impunity.

Is that right and just in your mind?