Armageddon prophecy is real

Armageddon is the final battle between God and Satan. Antichrist is key figure here since he is Son of Satan to some and prophet to another. Or both. It may be World War 3 with billions of dead and all religion destroyed.

My theory is that if many people believe and conspire to do something, they actually fulfill prophecies, which can be nothing more than 2000 years old instructions how to behave 2000 years later, thus creating it real since believers are brainwashed enough to believe all the crap you want them to believe.

I am saying this because this is implanted in many religions, not just Judeo-Christian one. For example, Al Mahdi in Islam, Maitreya in Buddhism, Krishnamurti in Hinduism and others. In short -- People are programmed to carry out prophecy, if it's real or not is irrelevant since instructions are real and actions too. Question is, who put instructions there?

Still i am not denying higher forces at work, but people carry out most of the tasks as they are being instructed to in holy books.

You do have a point. Hitler thought he was doing God's work...

Well, i realized one problem, but still most of the theory can be correct. Antichrist must be born that way, he cannot learn how to behave. Well some stuff he learns, but he must be deep inside wicked enough to get to the power and use this for bad or good. You cannot just learn to be the Antichrist.

Technology is the antichrist. It gives man more power then he was destined to have. A nuclear war would send us back to the stone age... so I could have a point.

Unless you're referring to magic, he could be the antichrist. I see a youngcatholic boy who follows his faith, only to see horrible suffering and feel as if God has turned on him. The boy has one advantage, he had a brilliant mind and was an avid speaker. Angery at God, he would do anything for revenge, even trying to take the image of the Antichrist. On the outside, he is kind and warm hearted, but on the inside, he feels the burning passion. He would try as hard as possible for that goal, excelling in politics just for World Domination.

Every generation believes it's the last. We are all waiting on either doomsday or a messiah.

If just one, just one, would get it right, then I might believe.

Until then, I'm not taking the money out of my 401K and having a going away party.

Which god? I must have missed the verse where Jesus said to exterminate the Jews. Hitler was a dillusional mad-man who didn't have any real concept of what's in the Bible. Hitler's real inspiration was theories like Darwanism. That's where he got the superior race bit he was selling to the Germans. He's come closer to being the anti-Christ than anyone else. I guess he only read the parts that suited his needs.

SB2012-
i get what your trying to say, and the power of mind over matter is indisputable. Yet, historically speaking, religion is not as powerful as it once was, and not many people now (as Ive noted from experience, sorry, no source) even know enough about the bible to recite Our Father let alone the extensive comprehension needed to understand revelations. So, how can they fulfill this prophecy if they dont believe in it and/or understand it?

dbates, haven't you ever read the gospel of mark? it's gushing with antisemitism. there's quite a few instances of it.

It was written for the Gentiles.....

Im sorry, Im not trying to be rude- In reviewing the thread after my post I realized something. The thread initially switches from doomsday conspiritors (fulfilling their 'end of days' obsession) to religions (that have similar end of days details), in order to claim that the 'mass appeal' of our fascination with the final distruction is what is leading us into a self-fullfilling prophecy.
In other words, if you begin by claiming that it is the actual conspiricy that we are going to see our own demise, which leads these believers to self-fulfill this prophecy then you can not group the 'conspiritors' in with religion as a whole.
There are many people of many religions who do not believe we are living in the end of days.
So, where is the mass appeal?





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The existence of the state of Israel.
I've seen people use this as sowing the power of prophesy. Almost 2000 years later, the prophesy comes true!

But is that more a matter of enough people knowing the prophesy, and wanting it to come true, and so working hard to make it come true?

And so with Armageddon... if the current religious fundies who have political power started to get worked up about "The End of Days", and wanted it to happen. Wanting the Rapture for the Good, and Fire for the heathens. It could affect political and military decisions. It's okay to Push The Button because the Good will be Saved.



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I believe that those in positions of power are fulfilling the prophecies mapped out in the Bible.

I find it amazing that if I were to go out in public and say that powerful world leaders and bankers are conspiring to bring us closer to a doomsday scenario to fulfill prophecies, I'd be labeled a nut and directed towards the nearest funny farm.

But let some priest get up in front of a crowd of people talking about Jesus resurrecting, 2 billion people are going to disappear from the planet and go to heaven, and the rest of the people who have committed sins and not had faith in God will be under the one world government rule of Satan, and you'll probably have alot of religious fanatics that believe him.

We have more people who believe the bs that religion says than we do people who know how the world REALLY works. That's pathetic.

There is no God. There is no Satan. There is no Heaven. There is no Hell.

There will never be a rapture.

You create your own miracles. You create your own unexplainable events. You subconsciously create your own destiny. That's your 'God'.

Satan is technology, as spiritp0wer said. It's a very good point. Technology does give us powers we weren't really supposed to have. We developed intellectually, so I guess you could say technology was inevitable. But maybe we've gone too far. Should those in power be able to spy on others? Should we embed chips into other humans? Should we really be able to wipe out millions with one bomb?

Any doomsday times that happen will be our own fault. They'll be because of us, they'll be started by us, and they'll be finished by us. There are no higher powers other than the ones with their finger on the nuke button.

I think technology is logical step from hunting and farming. You cannot be smart and stay at same technological level forever. Also, there is population and food problem... Without technology we would have more wars, for water, land and food.

I think technology is what God wants us to have. To use technology to overcome our limitations, to explore space and to learn to tolerate each other. How many bombs we need to detonate in order to realize this is a totally new question...

About prophecy...
I think they invaded Iraq just for that reason. Just look at them idiots. They worship Moloch in Bohemian Groove. I know that club is made just to get fools to feel special, but still it makes you wonder. Next step is probably war between Israel and Iran and other countries. Israel may release a lot of atomic weapons when pushed against the wall. Still, war would be considered holy by Arab nations and Israel destroyed.

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Mrwupy: "Every generation believes it's the last. We are all waiting on either doomsday or a messiah. If just one, just one, would get it right, then I might believe. Until then, I'm not taking the money out of my 401K and having a going away party."


Yea, except it is only now that we actually posess the power and the technoledgy to actually destroy the planet. This wasn't the case any other time in history when rumors of "The End of The World" were flying.

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Ah, don't worry about that. We won't be allowed to destroy each other, at least not completely. Also, we won't stop technologically. Only question is, how much death and destruction we can expect in near future.

The antichrist thing is bunk..

If anyone is the antichrist, its everyone who is willing to go along with the New World Order, because that is esssentially going against the very mechanisms of nature itself!

Also, it could be the second coming of Christ, or the return of a prophet, to help humanity, but getting classed as the antichrist by the NWO in an attempt to bury him/stop his followers.

Would'nt Armageddon have to actualy happen before the prophecy was to be "real"?

Just a thought.

CX.

i think its more correctly the ultimate, end of Age, battle between good and evil...........instead of G-d & Satan
because the Angels are the ones who turn the battle into a rout,

and the subtle 'emotional virus', called prophecy, conditions the christian world that the hordes of the peoples from the far east are the 'evil' that are
to be ultimately destroyed in rivers of blood , as high as a horses bridle...
by the remnant of chosen people known as a regathered israel.



yes, indeed its "programming" of the mind/emotion/intellect, as the 'Gospel' message is given 2nd billing to the more sensational
Armageddon & Apocalypse scenarios...and repeatedly drilled into the christian cultures consciousness every breathing moment.








btw, i think Hitler wasn't fixated on Darwinism...not so nuch as the
Blatvasky & the Theosophy cults....blended with the northern european
pantheon of heroes of the Aryan gods-demogogs.
He also had a strong interest in the 'Eternal Fire-&-Ice cycle'
i used to have a obscure link from a blog but i just can't locate it right now.
recall that Hitler & the Nazi inner circle, were trying to get the 'Spear-of-Destiny' and tried to find the Ark-of-the-covenant too...that's not fables but fact.

Charles Manson fancied himself a type of anti-christ also,
his objective was to create the Helter-Skelter race wars in the western world. now that kind of war was not a scriptual forecast, but it certainly falls in the greater end-times, anarchy, brother-v-brother, vision that the kingdom of the 'Beast' is supposed to descend into as the masses sought
to destroy & burn up the the end-times 'beast' kingdom.



i've wondered, when Jesus said... some end times peoples would be led around like they had fish hooks in their jaws.
whether He was speaking of those that were being led by the Apocalyptic Scriptures instead of his ministry's Good-News 'Gospel'??

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speaking of armageddon.If people knew for a fact armageddon was happening & percieved how much death & destruction was about to happen,i can only imagine the fear most people are going to have.RUN YO THE HILLS!!!!