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Topic started on 7-1-2004 @ 07:03 PM by AgentOrange


I was reading an interesting article from a link on Michael Moore's website which really stunned me. It was talking about how the Secret Service sets up "Freedom of Speech zones" were anti-Bush protesters are allowed to protest when he visits different cities which is usually designated a few blocks from were Bush is. It also spoke about elderly women protesting and being arrested, what's up with that? What happened to freedom of speech and the freedom to have your own political views? And the big question, why don't we hear more about this??? I guess for dubya it's out of site, out of mind



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reply posted on 7-1-2004 @ 07:06 PM by Flinx


Yeah, I love the term "Free Speech Zones". What is heck is that?

Oh by the way, get ready to get attacked en masse by the neo-cons.



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reply posted on 7-1-2004 @ 07:09 PM by AgentOrange



Originally posted by Flinx
Yeah, I love the term "Free Speech Zones". What is heck is that?

Oh by the way, get ready to get attacked en masse by the neo-cons.



F@#k the neo-cons! This is America, if we think the president has his head up his a$$ then, we should be able to express that!!!



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reply posted on 7-1-2004 @ 07:11 PM by forsakenwayfarer


flinx you wouldnt know a neo-con if he knocked down your door.
i find these zones completely legit, in the sense that its easier to keep them under wraps and also keep a close watch on them so they dont get out of hand and try to rush the president. security. theyre not stopping these people from protesting, theyre just protecting the president.



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reply posted on 7-1-2004 @ 07:15 PM by AgentOrange



Originally posted by forsakenwayfarer
flinx you wouldnt know a neo-con if he knocked down your door.
i find these zones completely legit, in the sense that its easier to keep them under wraps and also keep a close watch on them so they dont get out of hand and try to rush the president. security. theyre not stopping these people from protesting, theyre just protecting the president.



Ok but, how come pro-Bush supporters can be closer to him? For all anybody knows, one of them could be a nutcase and try to harm Bush. I think Bush is in total denial. He's got to realize the whole contry is not behind him abd I think he does this, like I said, out of site out of mind.



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reply posted on 7-1-2004 @ 07:20 PM by Flinx



Originally posted by forsakenwayfarer
flinx you wouldnt know a neo-con if he knocked down your door.
i find these zones completely legit, in the sense that its easier to keep them under wraps and also keep a close watch on them so they dont get out of hand and try to rush the president. security. theyre not stopping these people from protesting, theyre just protecting the president.


Yes. Blah, blah gurgle gurgle.

They've seen to need to do this with previous presidents, so why now? Psh, and the audacity of calling them "free speech zones". Can't hurt that these zones are conveiniently located far away from the president's event and therefore the media (who wouldn't cover the protests anyway).

But whatever. I have no interest in arguing. Not as if it changes anyone's minds.



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reply posted on 7-1-2004 @ 07:24 PM by AgentOrange


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Yes. Blah, blah gurgle gurgle.

They've seen to need to do this with previous presidents, so why now? Psh, and the audacity of calling them "free speech zones". Can't hurt that these zones are conveiniently located far away from the president's event and therefore the media (who wouldn't cover the protests anyway).

But whatever. I have no interest in arguing. Not as if it changes anyone's minds.



Even if they were close to the media, I couldn't see Fox News interviewering any protesters

[Edited on 7-1-2004 by AgentOrange]


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reply posted on 7-1-2004 @ 07:27 PM by intrepid


Never try to teach he who will NOT learn. Thank you for finding my signiture.



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reply posted on 7-1-2004 @ 08:25 PM by darkwraith


[Edited on 15-1-2004 by darkwraith]



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reply posted on 7-1-2004 @ 08:28 PM by Esoterica



Originally posted by darkwraith
One elderly protester was dragged from her wheelchair by the police state militia, in Los Angeles last year.

Now that tells ya what kind of nation this has devolved into.

[Edited on 7-1-2004 by darkwraith]


A google search brings up no information on this. Do you have a reference?



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reply posted on 8-1-2004 @ 02:42 AM by goose


Heres a link about this
www.voiceoffreedom.com...



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reply posted on 8-1-2004 @ 09:09 AM by Thomas Crowne


As if that is a new thing. Remember the couple who was locked up by secret service under direction of Clinton because the woman hollered "You suck!" at Clinton while on a city street? Didn't hear much complaining then. I guess it all depends on what side the disgruntled citizen is, huh?



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reply posted on 8-1-2004 @ 09:13 AM by McGotti



Originally posted by Thomas Crowne
As if that is a new thing. Remember the couple who was locked up by secret service under direction of Clinton because the woman hollered "You suck!" at Clinton while on a city street? Didn't hear much complaining then. I guess it all depends on what side the disgruntled citizen is, huh?


Was ATS around then??? Im sure there would be plenty of complaints about it regardless of political affiliation..



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reply posted on 8-1-2004 @ 09:46 AM by Bout Time


It has nothing to do with security. It has everything to do with our decent into Fascism.
Couple that with a special police contingent that travelled with Dim Son to everyone of those record setting fund raisers an used pre-emptive excessive force ( such as spraying mace in the eyes of an infant being held by a parent, or charging police horses into a crowd).



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reply posted on 8-1-2004 @ 09:54 AM by Esoterica



Originally posted by goose
Heres a link about this
www.voiceoffreedom.com...


It makes no mention of a woman in a wheelchair.

It also makes no mention of the likely event that the protestors were doing more than expressing their 'freedom fo speech'.

And who in their right mind bring a child to a protest? That's just asking for them to get hurt.



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reply posted on 8-1-2004 @ 10:59 AM by AgentOrange


In any case, you should be able to protest if you disagree with the president and he should be able to see it!



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reply posted on 9-1-2004 @ 12:47 AM by goose


Here is another link where a 65 year old retired steel worker was arrested for holding up a sign, written on the sign was, "The Bush family must surely love the poor, they made so amny of us." He was arrestedand locked up for doing nothing more than holding up his sign, the judge threw it out of court.
austin.buffaloimc.org:8080...



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reply posted on 9-1-2004 @ 12:55 AM by lilblam


Freedom of Speech Zones???

The value of our freedom to Bush doesn't even amount to 3 grams of bottled syphilitic whore spit. He should do himself and everyone else a favor: die a slow and painful death in some godforsaken wilderness, that infuriating bucket of stinky sinus drainage buried in a tacky mound of defective vulture gizzards.. that uneducated cake of industrial-strength buffalo excrement.

Whew now I've spoken my mind. Yes, I do feel better, thanks for asking.

[Edited on 9-1-2004 by lilblam]



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reply posted on 9-1-2004 @ 02:29 AM by RANT


Only have one commonality...

All are faaaaaaar away from the media.

The news is a big fat SMILEY now.

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Everything's FINE!

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reply posted on 9-1-2004 @ 02:53 AM by mamaship



Originally posted by Thomas Crowne
As if that is a new thing. Remember the couple who was locked up by secret service under direction of Clinton because the woman hollered "You suck!" at Clinton while on a city street? Didn't hear much complaining then. I guess it all depends on what side the disgruntled citizen is, huh?


If Gore was in office istead of Bush, you would be ranting and raving about free speech. Am I wrong? We have no problem excusing those from our own parties, but the "enemy" is always wrong. Bush is a disgrace to the presidency, and I voted for him! The Bush bubble keeps him blissfully unaware of public opinion.



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