posted on May, 25 2008 @ 11:04 PM
Trying to count a date from the beginning of the current national-state of Israel is a complete and utter waste of time. Those who do so are
forgetting who the tribes were and what they constituted. The jews are of the kingdom of Judah, not Israel. After king David, the kingdom of Israel
split into two kingdoms, the southern portion from then on called Judah (which the Jews were part of, and where the name Jew comes from), and the
northern kingdom kept the name of Israel (who are now the lost 10 tribes of Israel), or refered to as the house of Joseph, or Ephraim, since the head
tribe of this kigdom was Ephraim, the son of Joseph, and Israel/Jacob actually transfered his name onto the sons of Joseph....
Genesis 48:14 And Israel stretched out his right hand, and laid it upon Ephraim's head, who was the younger, and his left hand upon Manasseh's
head, guiding his hands wittingly; for Manasseh was the firstborn.
15 And he blessed Joseph, and said, God, before whom my fathers Abraham and Isaac did walk, the God which fed me all my life long unto this day,
16 The Angel which redeemed me from all evil, bless the lads; and let my name be named on them, and the name of my fathers Abraham and Isaac;
and let them grow into a multitude in the midst of the earth.
The restoration of the jewish state, (which we call the current nation of Israel) is in fact only the restoration of the Judah (tribes of Judah,
Benjamin, and part of Levi), not Israel, or the whole house of Israel (all 12 tribes), which the prophecies referring to this event call it. The
prophecy in Ezekiel says that at the time of this restoration, the two kingdoms will be once again joined together (the prophecy of the two sticks,
Judah and Ephraim), and after a great resurrection, which has still not taken place. Read Ezekiel chapter 37.
The first time the Jews are mentioned in the Bible, it says theye are at war with Israel....
1 In the seventeenth year of Pekah the son of Remaliah Ahaz the son of Jotham king of Judah began to reign.
2 Twenty years old was Ahaz when he began to reign, and reigned sixteen years in Jerusalem, and did not that which was right in the sight of the LORD
his God, like David his father.
3 But he walked in the way of the kings of Israel, yea, and made his son to pass through the fire, according to the abominations of the heathen, whom
the LORD cast out from before the children of Israel.
4 And he sacrificed and burnt incense in the high places, and on the hills, and under every green tree.
5 Then Rezin king of Syria and Pekah son of Remaliah king of Israel came up to Jerusalem to war: and they besieged Ahaz, but could not
overcome him .
6 At that time Rezin king of Syria recovered Elath to Syria, and drove the Jews from Elath: and the Syrians came to Elath, and dwelt there
unto this day.
Israel and Judah (the Jews) were two separate kingdoms after the split, but simply because the current nation of Judah is named Israel, people get
confused and it throws out their beliefs and so-called time lines. Pointing at the restoration of Judah as the fullfillment of the restoration of the
whole house of Israel is incorrect, what this event is talking about is the restoration of and the joining of the two split kingdoms, which happens
after the resurrection. What gets me also is that people think the Gog and Magog war will happen soon, when the book of revelation clearly gives the
timing for this event, after the 1000 years reign of Christ, and also after the first resurrection....
REVELATION 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of
Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the
number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of
heaven, and devoured them.