The problem with this term is that it implies everything that "new agers" discuss is something inherently new.

This is NOT the case.

People have been using crystals, healing energy, and the like for thousands of years before the hippie movement.

The new age is nothing new, so stop slandering people by calling them new agers.

It is actually something as old as time itself.

Get your facts straight.

See: Egyptian religion, South American shamanism, Chinese mythology, Celtic (Gaelic) druids, and many more.

More to come.


And no I am not labeling myself as a new ager or anyone who believes in certain things.

I am open to just about everything and will explore something until I have personally proven it ineffective. Even then there is still a possibility of it being true.

Prayer and faith have been around since humans existed.

What makes the resurgence of faith so important is that it is not in a lot of the major religions.

People are combining many to understand a greater facet of reality that was not open to us before the internet and even this century began.

Now that the world is essentially united in communication, anything is possible.

If we will it into existence, it will happen.





"As above, so below."
(This comes from Thoth, the Egyptian God of Wisdom and the Greek's Hermes)

ANYTHING is possible.


[edit on 16-6-2007 by biggie smalls]

I like New Age because it unites so much occult practices and religions. It's like tutti frutti of spirituality.

Well, a lot of funny stuff inside too, so you need to see for yourself what works for you and let others practice what works for them. Almost ALL of New Age is old, from east and pagan circles. I like it, finally we can worship Jupiter again.

What Christians did to pagans is absolutely barbaric. They burned people alive if they didn't accept that old book called teh Bible. I mean, what's wrong with them anyway? Also i see Jupiter as greater God than YHWH, so gimme a break.

New Age is cool because it unites all the world and shows people how universe works.

the term "new age" actually refers to a new age of humanity, the turning back to holistic healing, crystals, energies, and all that good jazz. I find it interesting you say you are not a "new ager" but your quote "as above, so below" is a wiccan phrase from spellcraft. very newagey stuff...

Originally posted by nisurastar
the term "new age" actually refers to a new age of humanity, the turning back to holistic healing, crystals, energies, and all that good jazz...

Ummm...not quite, the term "New Age" actually refers to this:

As the Earth moves through the universe, She passes through the Houses of the Zodiac. She is held in each House
for approximately 30 degrees, which averages out to be a time span of approximately 2160 years. Therefore, the
Zodiacal House that the Earth is held in for that period of 2160 years is called an AGE. So as the Earth moves from
one Zodiacal House to the next in the precession, we call this the entering of a NEW AGE. Earth is now moving into
the Zodiacal House of Aquarius. Thus the Age of Aquarius, a period of enlightenment – a “Golden Age” is beginning.

Yes im very aware of the aquarian age. I dont categorize "new age" as in the practices of spellcraft, crystal healing, and all of that as part of the pole shift. I keep them seperate becouse one is not becouse of the other. Its mearly a point of view i suppose.

When is this New Age supposed to happen?

generally speaking we are now in the aquarian age, ascending out of the piscean age. As for the shifting of the poles its unclear on when that will happen, but it will be very soon, well within our lifetime.

Personally, I don't really care for the term "New Age" as most people look at it. The majority of people that I see referencing it are pushing a sort of spiritual elitism. These Indigo, Rainbow, Crystal Children for example. Every site I come across claims that the webmaster of that site has THE one and only proven path to becoming an Ascended Master and guilding us all to a new age of spiritual awakening. It's becoming very cult like in my opinion.

However, the majority of subjects grouped together under the "New Age" category, as stated before are not particular new. The esoteric arts are far older than this fledgling science and new fangled religion.

If you're looking for answers without, in my opinion, you are barking up the wrong tree. All a good teacher does is help your mind to expand by giving you things to contemplate, and exercises to practice.

The vast majority of this "New Age'dness" makes me shiver. It's so cultlike. The "I AM University" for example is one such group. Then you can encounter a thousand others that also claim to offer the one pathway. If I see one more person trying to channel "Saint Germain" through their little brother I just might go nuts.

These "New Age" groups generally have a founder who has not really done much practice or training, but one day had a dream, and remembered a thousand lifetimes of spiritual teaching, and now they have attained the supreme God Light of Truth and are the only ones capable of preventing our mortal souls from succumbing to the great abyss of ignorance.

As stated earlier, much of the more solid work is indeed, very old, and no new in any way shape or form. What we generally see now a days is just fluff in comparison as a bunch of amateurs who haven't really grasped one system yet mingle 30 to "attain christ conciousness". I apologize if I sound bitter. Must be the negative energies the Zetans are projecting through my opaque(ignorant) life sphere. If I were truely knowledgable, I would be a light, and my life sphere would be clear, reflecting truth, and negative energies would be purified as they pass through blah blah blah..

While I have no problem with someone who wishes to evolve spiritually, you are right about the "holier than thou" people.

It is very egotistical to think that one person can attain Christ consciousness, but others cannot. I believe revelation to be handed down from God (not the book, personal revelations) and no other human will be able to reveal it to another.

Everyone's path is different, although we trod down the same road.

I know a Franciscan father who has this kind of attitude. Probably most priests believe they are more spiritually inclined because "God chose them" to serve.

I find this highly irritating because in the first place religion was created for control (in general).

The ones that are more for freeing oneself tend to be hijacked anyway.

The only true path is that which has no borders and loves all.

Love is the conqueror and tamer of this world.

As somewhat of a "new ager" myself, I have to say that what you are saying is correct. However, I think that the term "new age" is in reference to a revival in the practices, not that the practices are new.

[edit on 17-6-2007 by SpeakerofTruth]

Originally posted by sb2012

What Christians did to pagans is absolutely barbaric. They burned people alive if they didn't accept that old book called teh Bible.

Well, while I do agree, there are some here that would argue that the people that did those atrocius deeds were not really Christian.

Speaker of Truth is right. Speaking myself as a New Age Christian, I know that Jesus never told anybody to convert or die. He told everybody to preach the message, and if they don't accept, don't bother. They had their chance, they had their choice. Although, the Orthodox churches (:flame believe that you are being forced to believe Jesus Christ. You aren't. One of the things that I believe is that God created us to have free will. Not to be mind controlled. If God did create us to be mind controlled, God would have done that a long, long, long time ago.


And I disagree that religion was not created for control. When the religion was made, the religion was dilluted by Die-Harders and violent people, that thought that Christianity was alright, even if you were killing somebody. God never wanted anybody to kill anybody. That's also why all of the fighting in Dublin isn't a fight over Christianity either. They are acutally just about as good as Heathens now, becuase they are in a blatant disregard of their own religion. The believers can be controlling, and brutal. But the actual religion is not necesarilly either. You can do anything you want in the name of any religion, but it does not have to agree with it.


[edit on 17-6-2007 by TechnoFan21]

[edit on 17-6-2007 by TechnoFan21]

I understand your opinion on religion.

I don't believe God needs us to believe in a specific religion to show our joy of life and gratitude for being here.

Religion is a man-made creation, whether people accept it or not.

Divine revelation (in my opinion) would never exclude certain people because of their personal beliefs.

God is love and love is unconditional.

Love always is, but people may not love one another.

If we live in the present at all times and respect one another, I believe we fulfill our purpose.

Life was meant to be lived. We must not dwell in the past, but live in the present with a hope for a better tomorrow.



If I didn't make any sense sorry, it sounded good in my head .

I completely agree with biggie.

The term "New-Age" is applied to such a diverse amount of subjects that it doesn't even make sense anymore. In this thread alone already a few people are at a complete disagreement over its meaning. Unfortunately this is a symptom of society, and all of us as a collective group are to blame. We tend to divide things where they dont need to be, and to group things together where they dont need to be.

For example the art of astral projection would be branded new-age by lots of people, despite the fact that astral projection has existed for thousands of years.

Another example is the placing of the title on the subject of indigo children, while simultaneously doing so for a possible presence of Aliens. Sure, these are "new" topics in our culture, but giving it a titile of "new-age" does nothing to improve awareness of these subjects and actually gives them a negative connotation.

This is like our current "war on terror", which means everything from secret surveillance programs, to dimplomatic relations, to CIA operations, to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. People have a tendency to use one simple label to adress a broad spectrum of ideas and subjects, thus diminishing their true informational value.

The list goes on, its a sad habit of our society and culture.

Originally posted by TheGreySwordsman

As stated earlier, much of the more solid work is indeed, very old, and no new in any way shape or form. What we generally see now a days is just fluff in comparison as a bunch of amateurs who haven't really grasped one system yet mingle 30 to "attain christ conciousness". I apologize if I sound bitter. Must be the negative energies the Zetans are projecting through my opaque(ignorant) life sphere. If I were truely knowledgable, I would be a light, and my life sphere would be clear, reflecting truth, and negative energies would be purified as they pass through blah blah blah..

I agree. Though I believe new age practices now being available to the masses, at the same time I am irritated to no end by people who claim they are experts at meditating, healing, and totally psychic, and you then come to find out they have no idea what their talking about....

It gives those of us who genuinly study these subjects a much harder time when we try to help people....

sorry, that is one of my greatest pet peeves. Nothing irritates me more then someone claiming to be all powerful with their psychic machoness and doesnt even know what a chakra is.

Originally posted by nisurastar

sorry, that is one of my greatest pet peeves. Nothing irritates me more then someone claiming to be all powerful with their psychic machoness and doesnt even know what a chakra is.

Nice! Just like Miss Cleo!

That is correct it is not NEW AGE OR NEW WORLD ORDER, it is a realised fiction of HISTORY.An 'old science' indeed.There is nothing that is uniquely ours only our truths recycled through existince.

I don't know how I feel about the "new age" thing. I don't follow a specific religion, so sometimes, it seems like "new age" is the only way to describe myself. If I ever find anything better, though, that fits me more, then I will use it.

Yes, I can't stand those "psychics," either. It makes it rather tough on those of us who do have certain abilities. Even some people who ARE psychic like to act like they know everything. *rolls eyes* If they were truly as psychic as they said they were, they'd be just a bit more humble, because they'd realize that, in fact, NO ONE KNOWS EVERYTHING. But at LEAST be able to tell me what a chakra is. *shudders*