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Originally posted by Are We Alone
You call blowing up woman and children and killing thousands of innocent people A GOOD FIGHT. Thats SICK talk infinite.
Originally posted by BlissfullIgnorance
Originally posted by tonyc
i must say i found this post very offensive.
After years off armed conflict, we are now in the situtation where all sides have reached aggreement.
This is not the time, for someone who has an obvious complete lack of Knowledge on the history of this conflict. I suggest you spend your time concentrating on the abuse of civil liberties, in your own country.
To help deny ignorance; currently, former enemies are now working together. This was unthinkable 15 years ago. the vast majority of the population of The British Isles( yes that includes the whole of Ireland) want this aggreement to suceed, all sides have had great difficutly getting to a peaceful solution.
As for revolution in America, well thats up to Americans.
btw we have one thing in common, I also was born "outside of County Cork".
i apologize very much. i now realize that, while i do think i understand the issue, i didnt have all the facts at the time. it was never my attempt to insult your offend you or anyone for that matter. simply trying to get a good debate going.
ps. good to see another eire brother here
Originally posted by blissfullignorance
my relatives in Dublin are telling me about something they've heard underground. That there is a planned uprising of the RIRA, and attack Northern Ireland.
Originally posted by infinite
I have to say, I love Irish Americans..
Blaming the British for everything, even though many Irish Americans gave money and arms to the IRA during the troubles and still to this day to the RIRA.
Lets not forget the Irish American politicians who refused to condemn the terrorist campaign and shook hands with Gerry Adams when he was still apart of the IRA.
Wanna know why there is now peace in Ireland? because Irish Americans stopped giving money to terrorists.
Sorry if I sound harsh, but many people seem to blame everything on "imperial britain" and ignore the crimes of the terrorists. It makes my blood boil since I've had members of my own family killed
(this is all coming from a proud Irishmen)
[edit on 16-6-2007 by infinite]
Originally posted by DarkSide
The IRA, or any other form of terrorist group, should never have existed after 1921, but unfortunately they turned into drug lords.
Originally posted by seenitall
I don't presume to understand the real reasons for such conflicts, although....
This is merely yet another example of how religon is used to influence the opinion of the population, and direct conflict.
The Cronulla(sp.) riots in Sydney began as a drug turf battle, yet the media portrayed it as a fight between Muslims and 'Aussies'. Even on ATS, everyone thought it was about Muslims. The problem was that people of middle eastern and asian descent were trying to monopolise the drug trade, which the 'aussies' didn't like because of the enourmous amounts of money involved. You will not see this in articles, its just something that I heard and know to be true. Don't bother asking me for links. You can take it or leave it. There were other potentially enourmous situations that stemmed from this initial event which were luckily averted by police. By this stage though the racial card had been forced quite hard and people had absolutely no idea what it was all about.
I know there are stronger underlying issues but I strongly believe that nationality and religion are used as a means to influence situations on a large scale. Whether by government, or minority group seeking to cause 'beneficial' disruption.
I just think its soooooooo stupid how everything is linked to religion. Religion should be something you do in the privacy of your own home and not be used as an identifier.
--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
The Declaration of Independence
Originally posted by aeionu
The Real I.R.A do not deal in drugs or anything of the sort. The splinter groups do and are despised by the Real I.R.A . Trust me i know, anybody in ireland will tell you that if your a drug dealer your greatest fear is a Real I.R.A man. Thank YOU for your blind ignorance.
Originally posted by Knights
What of the loyalist British citizens who live in Northern Ireland? Who actually want Britain to stay in control? The 'damned' Brits aren't their causing the trouble- instead protecting it's citizens from people like the IRA.