the IRA's killing of civilians is every bit as disgusting as the british atrocities and vice versa, anyone trying to play apologist or revisionism with either should be ashamed of themselves.

what makes an IRA thug disappearing a civilian in the name of a nation that never existed any better than a black and tan beating a farmgirl in the name of an empire that never should have.

each was utterly evil for what he thought was the best of causes. all it proves is the stupidity that is inherent of any ideology.

Originally posted by Dermo


The IRA had a cause and a reason to fight all the way from the late 1800's up to the 1999 agreements - anyone who disagree's with this point should look up the history.

revisionist nonsense, they hijacked a civil rights movement to conduct a poorly supported terror campaign over the border issue which mainly involved killing civilians- they never had justification, certainly for the latest "troubles"

[edit on 8-12-2008 by blueorder]

Originally posted by blueorder
they never had justification, certainly for the latest "troubles"

How about equal rights for Catholics.

I don't want to get into one of these discussions.. im sick of em.

Originally posted by Dermo


How about equal rights for Catholics.

I don't want to get into one of these discussions.. im sick of em.

read my post, that wasnt what they brought, and they were not fighting for that, theyhijacked a civil rights campaign (which was not an exclusively catholic thing! never mind the anti protestant issues of the south) to fight a terror campaign on the border issue!

i did a tour of the province in the late 90s,unusually for a squaddie,i liked the place and the people and have been back many times.terrorists are terrorists,whether muslim,catholic or protestant and should all be slotted without a second thought,and in ireland quite often were.good. i hate the plastic paddy americans on here,who have this romantic idea of a glorious fight for irish freedom,its bollocks.you have no clue what you are talking about,they are all just gangsters and drug dealers now, its got nothing to do with you so keep your noses out of it.and before all you plastic yank paddies start slagging me off as a bastard brit squaddie,my granddad is from county mayo,which makes me more irish than any of you whose great great great great etc,grandad came off some potato boat in 18whatever,your all american,not irish,get over it.