It’s Official: The Crash of the U.S. Economy has begun

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posted on Jun, 15 2007 @ 08:20 PM
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Originally posted by FreeSpeaker
The US has quite a bit of gold tucked away for a rainy day, so I dout the bottom will completely fall out of the economy.

Simply put, a NAU will have to be formed to stop the collapse of the american economy(most likely the Canadian economy as well). Whether you beleive its all part of a elite plot to rule the world or simply the collapse of a system meant to fail after turning away from its founding principles, the NAU is the only thing that can keep the economy from falling to pieces.


not true, Canada has fresh water, fisherys, softwood and hardwood, oilsands, and much more farmland than that of the US. If the US collapses they will be begging Canada for handouts.




posted on Jun, 15 2007 @ 08:28 PM
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Oh, the irony! Americans, who have made fun of Canadians for no reason at all, will be begging them for help!



posted on Jun, 15 2007 @ 08:30 PM
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Go here, futures.tradingcharts.com...

And have a looky see. If the USA economy was going in the toilet then gold would be high not on a down trend.

You silly people!

Roper



posted on Jun, 15 2007 @ 08:35 PM
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it make so much sense for the 'new world order' to want to crash the economy, since the people with the most money (allegedly) are behind the "NWO". they obviously want money to be worth nothing so they can run the world.
/sarcasm

how are they going to do that w/o money?

i admit, the economy can be an unstable thing, but 2 things to keep in mind:

1. the crash of the economy is not the end of the world, as money is a completely manmade concept and not real in any way.

2. the post is written on a 5th, maybe 6th grade level. find me a peer review journal that claims an economy crash is both inevetable and coming in the near future and ill worry.



posted on Jun, 15 2007 @ 08:44 PM
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You guys have seen the Money Masters videos on Google video? That's the link to the first part. It's really really long but very educational.

www.themoneymasters.com...
They have additional materials there.

They make the argument that silver would be better to back our money supply than gold.



posted on Jun, 15 2007 @ 08:47 PM
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Originally posted by Roper
Go here, futures.tradingcharts.com...

And have a looky see. If the USA economy was going in the toilet then gold would be high not on a down trend.

You silly people!

Roper



unless of course....the central banks were dumping a major portion of their gold onto the market.....

news.goldseek.com...

gata.org...

of course, such action does appear to provide the desired illusion...
all's fine, continue on as usually....



posted on Jun, 15 2007 @ 09:03 PM
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Come on Dawn, the big boys ain't goin'ta lose any gold.

There is no dumping of gold if bad times are coming. Gold is always worth something!

Roper (the wise)



posted on Jun, 15 2007 @ 09:09 PM
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Originally posted by Kelldor

Lastly, the House just passed the bill to restrict people with mental histories from owning guns, so if you have ever been depressed in the past, and taken prosac or zoloft, your about to lose you 2nd amendment.


Are you saying that if I ever took zoloft I can't own a gun?

Where has this country gone? Straight down the #ter it looks like.



posted on Jun, 15 2007 @ 09:17 PM
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well, I suggest you read into it some, but, what I get from what I read, there's alot of groups that sold short...and they are kind of pressed to keep the gold price down in hopes to cover their short selling so they don't lose their shirts!!
or at least that's what I am getting.....but well, I am not an expert on such matters I could be misunderstanding what I am reading.



posted on Jun, 15 2007 @ 09:17 PM
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I haven't read the other posts in this thread except for the first one but maybe this is part of the reason why the Clinton's are liguidating their stocks now even though they are giving a different explanation for doing so -- it's a blind trust.... hmmmm

CBS news



posted on Jun, 15 2007 @ 10:02 PM
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The majority of the World's Central Banks are owned by the same families, such as the Rothchilds, Warburgs, & numerous other scum elitist's. Central Banks are private corporations, every once and a while they get nationalized by socialist gov'ts but that only lasts temporarily.
Anyways, if your private bank from England dumps 300 tonnes of gold on the market, it lower's or suppresses gold price, then your other private bank in switzerland dumps 200 tonnes it causes the price to fall, then your other companies shorts the gold knowing in advance that prices are going to fall you make trillions in profit upon which you buy back your own gold with one of your families other central bank from Spain or France. Thus buying your own gold back for less than you paid for it with the profits you made from short selling the market. Rinse & repeat.
Remember that the Rothchilds pretty much own majority stock & shares in all the worlds private corporations known as your friendly neighborhood central bank that you think is owned by the Gov't.
This is why paper has the illusion of wealth. Private & public debts settled by legal tender. Bank notes with no actual redeemable negotiable value except more paper. You better start buying as much silver & gold as you can cause pretty soon the gig is going to be up and hello Weimar Republic / Zimbabwae(splg?)!



posted on Jun, 15 2007 @ 10:10 PM
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Originally posted by BattleofBatoche
The majority of the World's Central Banks are owned by the same families, such as the Rothchilds, Warburgs, & numerous other scum elitist's. Central Banks are private corporations, every once and a while they get nationalized by socialist gov'ts but that only lasts temporarily.
Anyways, if your private bank from England dumps 300 tonnes of gold on the market, it lower's or suppresses gold price, then your other private bank in switzerland dumps 200 tonnes it causes the price to fall, then your other companies shorts the gold knowing in advance that prices are going to fall you make trillions in profit upon which you buy back your own gold with one of your families other central bank from Spain or France. Thus buying your own gold back for less than you paid for it with the profits you made from short selling the market. Rinse & repeat.
Remember that the Rothchilds pretty much own majority stock & shares in all the worlds private corporations known as your friendly neighborhood central bank that you think is owned by the Gov't.
This is why paper has the illusion of wealth. Private & public debts settled by legal tender. Bank notes with no actual redeemable negotiable value except more paper. You better start buying as much silver & gold as you can cause pretty soon the gig is going to be up and hello Weimar Republic / Zimbabwae(splg?)!

Yeah, they're scum because they're more successful than you. Let's feel the hate.

Now, I'm not saying you're wrong, but can you show me your statistics that prove that these "families" own the majority of banks and the majority of shares in most major companies?



posted on Jun, 15 2007 @ 10:54 PM
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The situtation is going to have to be delt with at some point. The longer it's ignored the worse it's going to be when it finally is or 'deals with itself onits terms'. Any politician who doens't make this, like American Imperialism, a primary issue literally proves that either they have no real concern for The People, or they're too incmpetent for their jobs.



posted on Jun, 15 2007 @ 11:02 PM
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It is truly staggering that none of the “mainstream” political candidates from either party has attacked this subject on the campaign trail.
www.globalresearch.ca...

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.


I strongly disagree with that. Ron Paul has this on his primary action item list. His stance on this, like American Imperialism which is the root cause of it, are what makes him our last hope.

See Ron Paul explain Dollar Hegemony on the floor of the House:
AHEM: It appears that Google Video pulled the 3+ uploads that have been there for about a year!!!

Here's wikipedia's entry on Dollar Hegemony:
en.wikipedia.org...

I guess we can settle for this Ron Paul sound bite:


If you really care about this issue I suggest you do everything you can to spread Ron Paul's name far and wide.

[edit on 15-6-2007 by IgnoranceIsntBlisss]



posted on Jun, 16 2007 @ 12:44 AM
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There is an election coming up folks and the propaganda has started. This is repeated every election cycle. Then of course the American haters pile on and say I told you so.

Interest rates? Still at near historical lows.

Housing market? Slight adjustment that was anticipated by the market well in advance.

The Dollar? 5% of the earths population still possesses nearly half the worlds wealth. Not likely to go broke overnight I think.

China? An overnight collapse of their economy if they loose the US consumer.

The Market? Its booming thank you.

Unemployment? If anyone does not have a job its because they don't want one or their so incompetent nobody wants them.

US haters? Not much can be done about people who hate us just because of where we were born.

Canada? I've never heard anyone make disparaging remarks about Canada. I've always thought we were friends? Must be some bigotry in play by a few hateful types who make up a tiny minority of the population I hope?

Bush? He'll be a memory shortly and a footnote in US history. Everyone will find someone new to hate and blame all the worlds ills on. Haters hate. That's what they do.



posted on Jun, 16 2007 @ 02:02 AM
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But the real haters label anyone who opposes them a hater.



posted on Jun, 16 2007 @ 03:11 AM
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I like to thank Ironside for the advice. But unfortunately I don't even have that much.

I guess it's off to a labor camp for my family and I.

But I guess we deserve it. We are guilty of just trying to survive.



posted on Jun, 16 2007 @ 03:21 AM
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I'm sorry if I offended you, but it seems throughout history, man has enslaved itself over and over. I myself will be in a sticky situation. I'm just basing my thoughts on information I have learned through history and psycology classes.



posted on Jun, 16 2007 @ 03:33 AM
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Hi naysayers
I'm glad some have come to challenge, that's great! Competition in the marketplace of ideas can only benefit these boards, even if the news is bad.

Someone mentioned things about Rothschild, Warburg, Rockefeller, Chase, etc. being big banking families that have controlling interests in the central banks of the world, and they are right. There are 190 countries in the world. Rothschilds have controlling interests in 185 of the central banks / member banks of the world bank. Guess which 5 they don't have any control over? Sudan, Syria, Iran, Cuba, and North Korea. The same 5 countries that export controls flag, and the same 5 countries that we always hear bad things about in the media.

To see how all mainstream media has merged and conglomerated check out this chart called "And Then There Were Eight".

Now, if you want to see how the Council on Foreign Relations controls our mainstream media, you can watch this YouTube video called "The CFR controls American media", "CFR Examples of media lies", and "CFR media control John D rockefeller".

Here we have an administration in power that is seriously considering pre-emptive nuclear strikes on Iran, a country that can't possibly attack us, and according to the CIA is 10 years from having a nuke. Iran recently decided to no longer accept US Dollars for oil, just like Saddam did in early 2000. This is why we want to attack Iran, it has nothing to do with nukes. When Saddam did it, that's when PNAC wrote "Rebuilding America's Defenses", before the election, and is the blueprint Bush is using today. This is the same document that called for a "catalyzing Pearl Harbor-like event" that 9/11 people talk often about.

As far as our Dollar sinking, it is true. 5 yr's ago it was 62 Canadian cents to 1 of our dollars, now it is almost a 1 to 1 ratio. Check out this article called "The Bush dollar".

Gold prices are kept low because Switzerland is continuing to sell gold on the open market. See "Switzerland to Sell 250 Tons of Gold".

Here's more on the dollar dropping:

Dollar falls vs. European currencies

The Coming Collapse of the U.S. Dollar

Here's more on the sub-prime mortgage collapse:

Fed may step in as subprime deliquencies hit all-time high

U.S. Mortgages Enter Foreclosure at Record Pace (Update5)

I'm surprised no one has mentioned the "Amero" yet. Just theorizing here, but I could see an intentional devaluing of the Dollar as a prelude to ramming the Amero down our throats. It don't exist, yet, and I hope it never does.

I am just glad there's so many folks that are starting to see whats going on and how seemingly different things are related. There's always going to be naysayers, and that's good! It sets the bar higher, and puts a greater level of burden of proof on the person making the original claim, in this case me.

We need Ron Paul!

Take care folks!



posted on Jun, 16 2007 @ 03:39 AM
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No Ironside you did not offend me in any way. All you did was give good advice. And for that I thank you.





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