posted on Jun, 12 2007 @ 04:03 PM
Facts agreed on. There are a lot of people in the United States without proper documentation. Generally referred to as “undocumented
workers.” The exact number is not agreed on. The most frequently heard number is twelve million. I don’t know who or how that number - 12 m. - was
reached. It is an estimate because we know they were not counted in any census. I recently heard the number “20 million” mentioned once. It was
recited by an opponent of the current Immigration Bill before Congress. It was either a slip of the tongue or a wilful attempt to further hype this
issue. No one else has picked up on that number.
1 2, 0 0 0, 0 0 0. That’s equal to the total population in the 13 smallest populated states. In reverse order, small to large. Wyoming.
Vermont. North Dakota. Alaska. South Dakota. Delaware. Montana. Rhode Island. Hawaii. New Hampshire. Maine. Idaho. And part of Nebraska. For another
comparison, Pennsylvania and Illinois each have 12 million people.
How did they get here? A very large number - I don’t know the number - came here on legal tourist visas and overstayed. While we were careful
in issuing the visas, we did not keep records in a central repository of who departed the country, prior to the Nine Eleven Event. I have heard the
number 3,000,000. Perhaps it is also an estimate? They are most frequently discovered in the course of unrelated police encounters. Traffic stops,
witness statements, etc. There is a very sad story about a Nepalese man who overstayed his visa 16 years in NYC. On his way home, he was caught in the
most unlikely circumstance, and held in ONE of our own SECRET prisons in NYC for nearly 2 years. Fortunately for him, he is now home in Nepal, but I
doubt that he is a Good Will Ambassador for America.
It is generally assumed most of the undocumented people have come from Mexico. But it is also true that a growing number are coming through
Mexico from the Cental American republics. Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua, Costa Rica, El Salvador and Panama. Aside: I never hear Belize named as a
source, why is that? People also come here from South America. And illegal immigrants come here from Asia and Africa.
The overwhelming number cross our southern border with Mexico. Nearly 2,000 miles in length (3,141 km), it is one of the longest borders
anywhere between 2 so disparate countries. Mexican GDP per person is $10,000, the population of Mexico is 109 million, the avenge age for men is 24.6
years and the birth rate is 20.3 per 1000. Similar numbers for the US of A are, average age for men, 35.3, our birth rate is 14.1 per 1000 and our GDP
per person is $43,500. CIA World Factbook.
Maquiladora. In 1964, the Mexican government instituted a program along its border with the United States that gave special favor to goods
produced in the zone - then 20 km into Mexico - and was meant to provide better wages to Mexicans working for American companies that moved to Mexico
but sent their goods back to the United States. In the 1970s, the Mexican government extended the special economic privileges to the entire country.
Today maquiladora is a generic term meaning any foreign owned business.
A friend worked for RCA in Indianapolis spinning yokes for tv tubes. That factory was moved to Mexico in 1965. I suppose RCA is out of business
now. RCA. Radio Corporation of America. Founder of JVC. Japan Victor Corporation. The founder of NBC. National Broadcasting Company. I think Disney
owns that one. I’d bet RCA rivaled GE in patents held! GE is almost out of the manufacturing and research business now; it’s mostly in finance.
Times change, people move on.
So what do we do now? There are many reasons which ought to be obvious why it is very risky and undesirable to have that many people in the
country illegally. They can neither report crimes committed on themselves nor can they be witnesses to crimes committed on others. And so on. By and
large illegal immigrants do not infringe on our social security system. All payment amounts under that system are based on the persons own account. No
account, no payment. Everyone must have 40 covered quarters - 10 years - before you are under social security! A covered quarter is wages or income of
$1,300 per quarter subject to the FICA tax.
I am not aware of the proof required to obtain SSI - Security Supplemental Income - which is a joint Federal state program for people under 65
who can’t work and people 65 or older who are not covered by Social Security.
Food stamps. I don’t know what you have to prove to get a plastic card which is now used in place of the old stamps. Currently the amount
payable per person in Florida is $85 a month. Other states may have other amounts. The governor of some state recently tried living on $21 a week for
a month. He had an advantage because he included his wife, so they actually had $42 a week. The story included them buying a whole chicken, $3.99.
They baked it getting 3 meals each off the sliced meat. Then they boiled the chicken and used the remaining meat to make chicken stew. 2 more meals
each. Total 10 meals off one chicken. Compare that to KFC.
FACT. We cannot remove them. 12 million people. It took the methodical and efficient Nazis from 1938 to 1945 to transport 6 million Jewish
persons to the death camps. And Hitler always gave those trains priority over all other transport including munitions for the Eastern Front. It would
take Amtrak 2 weeks to haul the people attending one of the national conventions planned for next year. And they would probably have 2 de-railments in
the doing of it.
INDIVIDUALLY they - the illegals - pose no more threat to America than any other group of like size. I’ve mentioned the problems associated
with any person who must avoid the law. It makes them vulnerable to every kind of exploitation. Wages not paid as agreed. Rent raised without notice.
No recourse to consumer agencies when gypped by used car lots or used appliances stores. Difficult if not impossible access to health care. Vulnerable
to loan sharks. And extortion. It is not a good idea for any society to harbor 12 million people so vulnerable to crime and criminals. Not smart.
IF we begin a punitive campaign to locate and identify the illegals, that will drive them underground. So whatever method we ultimately adopt,
it must have appeal to the illegals on the individual level. Some wags suggest we offer a green and white card - Mexican colors - from the ICE -
Immigration and Customs Enforcement - an unlikely mix - each should have its own independent agency - which replaced the old INS - Immigration and
Naturalization Service - a more logical entity - IF we start stupid it is hard not to end stupid - which card would lead to a Green Card. Permanent
resident alien status.
ONE thing many Americans can’t seem to get a grip on is that a very sizeable number of illegals DO NOT WANT to become Americans. They want to
work here then to go home. Not everyone on this planet now regards America as favorably as they once did. Other countries are getting better; Mexico
has held 2 elections in a row as fair as any in the United States. This is also true in Nicaragua where Daniel Ortega is now the elected president who
Ronald Reagan tried to keep out of office by force and violence in the 1980s Iran-Contra Affair. cf. Ollie North. Thanks to the Patriot Act America is
no longer the free country it once was. The citadel on the hill with its light now hidden in a basket!
SO which comes first? Secure our border with Mexico OR integrate the 12 million illegals already here? I suggest we do the more doable. Which
based on experience is integrating the illegals already here. We have never been able to secure our southern border and short of a Berlin Wall
West we never will be. I’d sooner die and go straight to hell than to see America build a wall around itself. Sweet Jesus, come quick!
[edit on 6/12/2007 by donwhite]