ok, i wont mention the fact that some off the links you have posted actually prove the point you are fighting against and ill just start from scratch,
ok.
you linked to wiki. see wiki here:
en.wikipedia.org...
which says:Virgin Birth occurs frequently in pre-Christian mysticism, the impregnation of mortal women by gods is common in pagan mythology, including
the then well-known story of Hercules, born to Alkmene by the god Zeus.
and of course Justin Martyr:
"Be well assured, then, Trypho," I continued, "that I am established in the knowledge of and faith in the Scriptures by those counterfeits which he
who is called the Devil is said to have performed among the Greeks; just as some were wrought by the Magi in Egypt, and others by the false prophets
in Elijah's days. For when they tell that Bacchus, son of Jupiter, was begotten by Jupiter's intercourse with Semele, and that he was the discoverer
of the vine; and when they relate, that being torn in pieces, and having died, he rose again, and ascended to heaven; and when they introduce wine
into his mysteries, do I not perceive that the Devil has imitated the prophecy announced by the patriarch Jacob, and recorded by Moses? ..."
and another from wiki:
en.wikipedia.org...
see also: The Bacchae (also known as The Bacchantes) is a tragedy by the ancient Greek playwright Euripides. It premiered posthumously at the Dionysia
in 405 BC, where it won first prize. (there you have a good date for pre-xian virgin birth.)
as for the vigin birth of Horus:
Isis actually had sex with Osiris after he was killed by being torn to pieces. she put him back together but without his penis, so she made him a fake
penis and had sex with that and yee-haaa! Horus!
as opposed to mary who just had sex with a ghost (therefore not really a vigin, since she was impregnated by something, technically)
but i guess we can agree that if we mean the hymen being torn, then mary was a virgin before she had sex with the holy spirit, eh. unless we go with
some of the other sources that claim she was actually a whore......................
also, think about this:
we all agree that Horus wasnt actually a real person , right?
then since you demand irrefutable evidence in plain english about a god that isnt real, why can i not ask you to provide the same proofs concerning
Jebus, who you claim is actually the son of god?
you see, if you take each minor detail as a single entity you cannot see the entire piture. the story of jesus is rife with pre-xian mythological
sories and events, which constantly repeat themselves again and again. its all basically just astrology from the old days woven into the ever-evolving
realm of "religion".
perhaps the main issue is that, anyone who actually knows all of this is most likely smart enough to not want to waste any time trying to prove
anything to someone like you, who wont admit anything anyway(even when you yourself link to evidence against your own argument), as your main agenda
is only to believe what you want to believe, contrary to all the evidence in the world.
and BTW, basing your beliefs on apologetic websites is just as bad (if not worse) than any other random internet copy/paste rhetoric. dont take EITHER
side of the argument as face until you look into both sides. you will easily find that the Jesus as God myth is just as lame as any other Zeus or
Marduke myth.
same stories, different binders.