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Geronimos skull used in SS rituals?

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posted on Jun, 10 2007 @ 07:49 PM
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It seems that the old myth of the secret society of Skull and Bones having Geronimos skull is no myth after all.

HARTFORD, Conn. - A Yale University historian has uncovered a 1918 letter that seems to lend validity to the lore that Yale University’s ultra-secret Skull and Bones society swiped the skull of American Indian leader Geronimo


For those of you not familier with Skull and Bones they are a secret society that both John Kerry and George Bush belong to.

What kind of men would steal a skull, especailly the skull of such a brave and noble man, only to use it in perverted rituals?

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posted on Jun, 10 2007 @ 09:38 PM
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Originally posted by 11Bravo


What kind of men would steal a skull, especailly the skull of such a brave and noble man, only to use it in perverted rituals?




I can answer that in four words:

Drunk college frat boys.



posted on Jun, 11 2007 @ 12:42 AM
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The conquerers, heaping further insult on a conquered people.
Such is life.



posted on Jun, 11 2007 @ 07:22 AM
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I don't think they stole it more than bought it



posted on Jun, 11 2007 @ 07:28 AM
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I thought that I had read somewhere that some Native American group demanded the skull, and tests were run on it and it turned out not to be Geronimo or of Native American descent.



posted on Jun, 11 2007 @ 07:35 AM
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Originally posted by brotherforchrist
I thought that I had read somewhere that some Native American group demanded the skull, and tests were run on it and it turned out not to be Geronimo or of Native American descent.


I think I heard the same thing. I do know that there was TV show about secret societies where a member of Skull and Bones was interviewed, and he denied the Geronimo thing. Even though some of them claim it's Geronimo's skull, in reality it was stolen from a skeleton in the biology department as part of an initiation prank.

[edit on 11-6-2007 by Masonic Light]



posted on Jun, 11 2007 @ 07:59 AM
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Did you guys read my source article?

Harlyn Geronimo, the great grandson of Geronimo, said he has been looking for a lawyer to sue the U.S. Army, which runs Fort Sill. Discovery of the letter could help, he said.


From May of 2006, a little more than a year old.
Do you have newer evidence to back your belief that tests were run on the skull?



posted on Jun, 11 2007 @ 02:04 PM
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Unfortunately no, I just remember coming across it a while back.



posted on Jun, 11 2007 @ 03:37 PM
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Couldn't they have switched the skull with another one during the tests to keep it with them?

I mean if the whole Gov't is behind them then surely this would be easy to pull off.



posted on Jun, 11 2007 @ 03:51 PM
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Originally posted by corsig
Couldn't they have switched the skull with another one during the tests to keep it with them?

I mean if the whole Gov't is behind them then surely this would be easy to pull off.


I agree, but what tests were ever run?
I have seen no evidence of any tests.
This is how rumours get started.

Did anybody read the article?
I thought you guys might post some stuff from one of my sources like

“What I think we could probably say is they removed some skull and bones and other materials from a grave at Fort Sill,” he said. “Historically, it may be impossible to prove it’s Geronimo’s. They believe it’s from Geronimo.”


Which seems contradictory because they should be able to extract some DNA, but Im no expert.
And like you point out it would be very easy to switch skulls at any time along the way.

What do you think they do with the skull of such a brave man?
Why, they kiss it of course!

Members swear an oath of secrecy about the group and its strange rituals, which are said to include an initiation rite in which would-be members kiss a skull.


I wonder if thats before or after the masterbation in the coffin ritual.



These are the guys running our country?
I wonder why the media hasnt told us more about this?


Only 15 Yale seniors are asked to join Skull and Bones each year. Alumni include Sen. John Kerry, President William Howard Taft, numerous members of Congress, media leaders, Wall Street financiers, the scions of wealthy families and agents in the CIA.


Oh, the media is part of the group too huh.... well I'll be.


Cug

posted on Jun, 11 2007 @ 04:19 PM
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If I remember right it wasn't a test. Someone sent a picture of the skull to some Apache leader.. and he started looking into it in the late 90's. Eventually the S&B produced a skull of a child (as if that was better) that was the one they claimed was Geronimo's.

The Apache leader said that skull looked nothing like the photo he was sent.



Originally posted by 11Bravo

Did anybody read the article?


Sure did.. And I read it last year when it was first posted here.


[edit on 6/11/2007 by Cug]



posted on Jun, 11 2007 @ 07:22 PM
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Originally posted by Masonic Light
I think I heard the same thing. I do know that there was TV show about secret societies where a member of Skull and Bones was interviewed, and he denied the Geronimo thing. Even though some of them claim it's Geronimo's skull, in reality it was stolen from a skeleton in the biology department as part of an initiation prank.


I have to agree w/ Masonic Light (and yes, 11Bravo, I DID read the article...and MANY others on the same subject)

It has been common since the advent of College Fraternities to own a skull (an emblem of Mortality in most cases). Many even have a skull and/or a skull & crossed bones as an emblem. Chapters of my own fraternity were known to have a skull. In fact I have one in my library that came from one of our closed Chapters. It was sent to the HQ many years ago and put in a box. I found it while going through the archives and the Exec. Director gave it to me. It, too, is an old laboratory skull.

I'm not sure why Geronimo's skull is so important. Perhaps some of the S&B members made a trip to Fort Sill and fabricated the story that they had stolen his skull. Who knows? Well, likely no one. Not any more. So the speculation continues



posted on Jun, 21 2007 @ 12:21 PM
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This page says a bit more than 'drunken college boys' theory from Masonic Light.



The German Brotherhood of Death Society is the Thule Society. Adolf Hitler joined this society in 1919, becoming an adept under the leadership of Dietrich Eckhart. Later, the Thule Society selected Hitler to be their leader of the New World Order, as Eckhart revealed on his deathbed, saying, "Follow Hitler; he will dance, but it is I who have called the tune. I have initiated him into the Secret Doctrine, opened his centers in vision, and given him the means to communicate with the powers." (Trevor Ravenscroft, The Spear Of Destiny, p. 91).

In August, 1990, President George Bush announced that the world had now entered into a New World Order. Shockingly, President Bush is an adept in the American Brotherhood of Death Society, the Yale Skull and Bones Society. As we stated earlier, Bush's New World Order is virtually identical with Hitler's; one key connecting point is their common membership in their respective Brotherhood of Death Societies (New Age author, Bill Cooper, Behold A Pale Horse, p. 81; plus Antony Sutton, Introduction To The Order, p.7). Skull and Bones' symbol is also a skull with two crossed bones, but with the mysterious number, '322' underneath.


About Geronimo...
Skull and Bones, heart of darkness in America

SAN CARLOS, Ariz. - President George W. Bush, Democratic presidential hopeful John Kerry and Homeland Security counsel Ed McNally are all members of the Yale secret society Skull and Bones. So where does that leave America? San Carlos Apache elder Raleigh Thompson said the current darkness in America and the world stems from Skull and Bones, a far-reaching brotherhood of power, which defiled the remains of Geronimo.

Thompson said horrible things are happening in the world today as a result of the defilement of the sacred, including defacing sacred Mount Graham with a complex of telescopes and the unearthing of Geronimo’s remains by Prescott Bush. "In tribal traditions, only witchcraft people dig up these bones," Thompson said of the defilement of the grave by President George W. Bush’s grandfather Prescott Bush, as recorded in a Skull and Bones log entry provided to San Carlos Apaches.

Thompson said the truth about the war in Iraq is now being exposed, linking the Bush family pressure for a pipeline in the Middle East, the war in Afghanistan and attacks of Sept. 11. Thompson said this dark path was present when the grave of Geronimo was desecrated. Interviewed on the day of the release of the video of the beheading of Nicholas Berg, Thompson said everything is out of control.


Some SS uniforms also had 322 number on them, but i dunno where i saw that pic... Anyway, check the links above.

Edit, one more link:
The head bone's connected to ... Bush?

[edit on 21-6-2007 by sb2012]



posted on Jun, 24 2007 @ 12:04 PM
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Maybe a silly question but what is the skull used for? Also If anyone would like to trade fraternity rituals, I have many, email me northpole5000x@yahoo.com



posted on Jun, 24 2007 @ 12:24 PM
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Nothing special, just few idiots think it has power, that's all. If they actually knew anything about power they wouldn't care about one silly skull.



posted on Jun, 24 2007 @ 12:58 PM
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Originally posted by sb2012


The German Brotherhood of Death Society is the Thule Society. Adolf Hitler joined this society in 1919, becoming an adept under the leadership of Dietrich Eckhart.


Hitler, however, was never a member of the Thule Society.

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When quoting from websites such as "Cutting Edge Ministries", all's I can say is "Consider the source".



posted on Jun, 24 2007 @ 01:23 PM
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They had same ideas, member or not, and no i won't spend time googling for sources because this is irrelevant in unimportant. No matter what ideas they had they are all dead, Germany was in ruins and 50 million people killed in WW2. Great ideas!

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posted on Jun, 25 2007 @ 08:53 PM
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One of the founding fathers of my fraternity was burried in one of the chapter houses. You would think that his remains would be worshipped or at least given the scintilla of respect decency requires anybody give anybody's corpse, but from what I heard members used to play the drums with his femur and have used the remains to pull off all sorts of pranks to scare pledges and other members of the fraternity.



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