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How about MiG-15 and F-86!!!
MiG-15 produced first! It means the sabre design taken from the MiG?
fool idea! you guys answers are not so experts. based on single side knowledge. much more like assumption!
Originally posted by Daedalus3
PAK FA updates:
1)Indian scientists feel India introduced into the program too late to provide any real technical input for the prototype that flies in 2009. Hence the accusation that 'India's inclusion is just as a source of fianance and an assured market.'
2)Technology demonstrator to fly in 09. It will use engines, systems and avionics from prev gen Su-30 a/c (Su-35 based AL-41F and Irbis-E?)
3)09 prototype to have 'swept-forward' wings to increase agility, yet reduce radar c/s
5) The a/c will be 2/3rds the weight of the current Su-30 versions, and be able to fly 'longer'. Note Su-30 MKI max takeoff weight is ~39tons and un-refueled range is 3000km.
6)Weapons will be carried within the fuselage.
Any similar chatter on other news networks/online?
Originally posted by Darkpr0
I'm not going to be too picky with the information, but one point that's up for grabs is the claim of Forward-Swept Wings.
I thought that they said that FSW was not going to be included in PAK-FA?
That aside, I do hope that it will be in the two-seater versions as is stated. There' s just something more attractive about Russian 2-seaters than single-seaters.
The bone of contention is that Russia has already frozen the design parameters of its FGFA, the single-seater Sukhoi T-50 PAK-FA, the first prototype of which is likely to take to the skies by 2009.
India, however, wants a twin-seater FGFA built to its requirements, which will obviously require several design changes. With the FGFA project expected to cost $8-10 billion, a cash-starved Russia is agreeable to the idea of having both single and twin-seater versions.
Originally posted by Darkpr0
The single-seater variant is an obvious choice as it's standard. A double-seater variant is handy for two reasons:
1) A completely new airframe is going to need new pilots, pilots which are going to need a fair amount of training. Having aircraft to train them in seems like a good plan.
2) Given that the aircraft is supposed to have radar/electronic capabilities on par with the F-22, and that the F-22 has a huge amount of power in that respect, it may be a great idea to have someone on hand to take advantage of these resources while the pilot is free to keep an eye on what he's doing.
There's also the "sexy factor", which we've already discussed. All in all, I'm not surprised about the addition of a two-seater variant, I think it's a logical step.