Due to member demand, the 9/11 forum is now under close staff scrutiny., page 5
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reply posted on 10-6-2007 @ 09:12 AM by spookymusic
Lol, it looks like ATS is being accused of being a "fake conspiracy site" elsewhere. Check out the June 7 announcement on this page

Seriously though, just because some threads get locked doesn't mean that this is a tool for disinformation. It just means there was a problem with your threads. If you want to be taken seriously, you can't lash out and insult your detractors.


reply posted on 11-6-2007 @ 09:45 AM by SkepticOverlord
We've been noticing a great deal of "negative reaction" about this decision as various members have been sending me U2U's with links to "9/11 Boards" where various users are decrying this action as censorship.

First, regardless of the opinions of disgruntled topic activists, there
is no censorship on ATS outside of topics specifically mentioned in the Terms & Conditions.

(I consider "topic activists" to be those who arrive at ATS from other sites, or groups of sites, specifically to promote certain subject matter.)

Second, if you're a topic activist, you must be prepared to accept that not all ATS members will immediately agree with you, and even those who may want to agree will first subject your topic to critical scrutiny. Harsh analysis of your topic is not an attack.

Third, if you're a topic activist and you're unable or have no desire to respond to reasonable questions from ATS members, you will raise the frustration factor of members. It is then reasonable to expect to receive even harsher questions and/or criticism.

Finally, if you're a topic activist and you become temporarily or permanently banned because of inflammatory rhetoric or insulting posts, our staff is banning you not your topic.



Unfortunately, the majority of trollish topic activists of late have been associated with rather extreme 9/11 conspiracy theories. And our experience over the past six years has shown us that 9/11 conspiracies tend to spawn more topic activists who are predisposed to deliver angry responses to valid questions than any other subject matter. Our one mistake in this matter is not not clamping down sooner, being concerned that such rapid action may be seen as "editorial involvement."


For Topic Activists

If you have a subject matter in which you have great passion and desire to disseminate, fewer places provide a more ideal platform than ATS. Your topic will receive immediate search engine attention and our members are notorious actively pursuing compelling ideas. The more you present a rational and respectful attitude, the more credible you will be perceived, and the more success your topic will enjoy. If your topic is truly important, then it is worth your efforts to engage us in a civil way.


And One Final Point of Clarity

I don't give a damn what these petty angry topic activists say about us on their safe haven discussion boards full of like-mind back-slappers. I care about ATS, ATS members, and our aspirational ideals of supporting debate and discussion of any topic as long as it's accomplished with reasonable decorum.



reply posted on 11-6-2007 @ 05:40 PM by sensfan
Originally posted by Killtown
This is rich. I just got warned for this:

www.abovetopsecret.com...


And rightfully so. You used derogatory terms directect at another member, which is agains the Terms and Conditions of ATS. You can attack other's claims and ideas till the cows come home, but to attack another member personally because you don't agree with them is childish and immature.


reply posted on 13-6-2007 @ 03:17 PM by Majic
Allegations Of Moderator Bias

We've been seeing quite a few claims that the moderators are selectively enforcing the
AboveTopSecret.com Terms And Conditions Of Use.

If you think this is a real problem, here's how you can help:

1. If you believe any staff member has acted inappropriately, please report it by submitting a Complaint/Suggestion and we'll investigate.

2. Likewise, if you are concerned about a T&C violation by another member that may have been overlooked by the staff, a Complaint/Suggestion is the way to go.

Please do NOT attempt to derail threads with accusations, off-topic drama, libel, et al, because doing so is itself a violation of the T&C, one of the most common disruption tactics currently being used in the forums and may result in prompt removal.

There is now compelling evidence that our forums are the target of one or more organized campaigns aimed at disrupting discussion of 9/11-related topics.

Attempting to suppress the ability of any member to express any opinion on any subject in accordance with the T&C has, is and always shall be in direct conflict with the core values of our community.

Please help us to keep our forums open and available to everyone who has information to share by honoring the AboveTopSecret.com Terms And Conditions Of Use.

Again, to all members who have been doing so: thank you!

Yes, we do notice.
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