Originally posted by AboveTopSecret.com
Any inappropriate comments, insults, topic derailment, or trolling will result in immediate posting ban or account termination.
1) We've received an overwhelming number of member complaints since the topic of "TV Fakery" splashed on the ATS scene a few days ago. Most of the
member complaints are dealing with the trollish nature of the new member(s) promoting these theories, and a handful of supporting characters.
2) When participating with the members of AboveTopSecret.com, there are certain standards of conduct and cooperation that are not simply expected,
they are demanded.
3) We seem to be among several sites targeted by a recently formed "9/11 Research" group who espouses a particularly provocative theory of "no
planes at the WTC" and "TV Fakery."
4) What we (staff and memebrs) have noticed about this group is that their individuals
5) engage in what they hope is an IMPENETRABLE approach in debating. They appear to have have no REAL interest in defending or discussing their
theories.
6) Instead they use provocative ideas and inflammatory language ("shills" for example) to bait people into extended debates filled with
intentionally frustrating diversions, insults and accusation. Their activity in ATS threads prove they are disinterested in fact, reason, logic, or
evidence while attempting to portray themselves as passionately convinced of their own highly questionable positions.
While we have a long standing tradition of supporting passionate debate of nearly any topic, we insist that all participates do so with respect and
decorum.
7) Spamming our forum with multiple topics and ignoring well-presented questions demonstrates no intent to show respect. And calling ATS members who
disagree with their position "shills" lacks the required decorum.
8) From this point forward, ONE TV FAKERY THREAD WILL REMAIN OPEN.
This one: SEPTEMBER CLUES exposes 911 TV Fakery
The opening posts of all "TV Fakery" threads will be modified to direct users to this thread. And likewise, this remaining open thread's first post
will contain links to important questions raised by our members.
9) For now, new "TV Fakery" or "No Planes" threads based on the work of this group will be deleted. Please use the
existing thread indicated above to add any new material to the discussion. Repeated
attempts to start new threads may result in account termination.
10) If we see an improvement in tone, and an effort for collaboration, this restriction will likely be lifted. It's up to them.
11) It's unfortunate that what seems to be aa habitually malicious group has seen fit to act this way over events that deserve thoughtful debate,
open research, and most of all collaborative participation. We've added additional staff to the 9/11 forum, and we'll be watching closely. Members,
please help us by using the new "post alert" button when you see issues you believe we should be aware of.
And before we hear potential complaints of an uneven approach to moderation, YES, long-standing members will indeed be favored over the new
participants who have shown no respect.
Thank you in advance for your cooperation.
The staff of AboveTopSecret.com
[edit on 8-6-2007 by AboveTopSecret.com]
1) Ha! What about the "trollish nature" of all the, um, TROLLS responding to all the NPT/TV-fakery threads?
2) BS, ATS has let trolls/skeptics who insults and disrupt run rampant here for a long time.
3) More like NPT/TV-fakery proponents have been banned by such 9/11 "truth" forums as:
911blogger.com
Loose Change
Lets Roll
NineElevenUK
...that we are limited in where we can debate about our theories. Shall we add AboveTopSecret to the list of forum forbidden to talk about NPT?
4) Before you edited yourselves:
What we (staff and memebrs) have noticed about this group is that their individuals (namely, Rick Siegel, Jim Fetzer, Nico Haupt, Coffinman,
bsregistration, Killtown , etc etc)
5) No, we have no real interest in putting up with the trolls who try to derail our threads.
6) Are you talking about us, or the trolls? I've been complaining to the admin here about the trolls who insult, ridicule, disrupt, and call me
"shill", but seems like the admin didn't give a damn.
7) Then why do you let the anti-NPTers do that?
8) Which other subjects are you going to do this for?
9) Which other subjects are we forbidden to start new topics on?
10) Well then ban the loud-mouth trolls who are close-minded to different theories.
11) Laughable. The skeptics (namely JREFers) have been allowed to run amok here, and bsregistration started posting some TV-fakery threads here, the
trolls attack him and his/our NPT threads and you guys blame everything on us. Rich.
In the meantime, I'll participate in such non-"controversial" and non-"outlandish" topics such as:
- Aliens & UFO's
- Secret Societies
- Area 51 And Other Facilities
- Katrina Conspiracy Speculation
- SETI
- Mythical Beasts
- Paranormal Studies
