New Video: september clues exposes 911 TV Fakery, page 28
Pages: <<  25    26    27    28  >>
ATS Members have flagged this thread 27 times


reply posted on 12-12-2010 @ 02:38 PM by jmdewey60
reply to post by WHOS READY

If someone was to click on your link, what they would find is a claim, "all the videos are fake" then it shows a dark looking plane in a video and compares it to a different video that shows a lighter looking plane.
To start with, actual, real researchers can tell you where that was taken and it is around two and a half miles away, so there would be a diminishment of light, just because of the distance. The "light plane" was taken right on the perimeter of the World Trade Center (meaning very close). Another thing is that when the plane was more distant from the crash site, it was flying in the shadow of that big plume of smoke coming from the earlier plane crash. The "light plane" video is where this Oct.C.'s video even admits the plane becomes lighter, in the "dark plane" video. When it is right up against the second WTC tower, the plane has passed out from under the shadow of the smoke and has more light. Plus, any of the second crash videos show that the right wind tips higher before hitting, thus giving more light to the underside of the plane.
The whole Oct. C's video is just something to discredit and make a straw man out of anyone who questions the "official" version. I personally am totally convinced there was a real plane but I also believe that the tower was simultaneously hit by at least one other object, and if there is video fakery, then it is meant to hide the fact that there were multiple hits on each tower, not to make a plane look like it is there, when there wasn't. That's just silly.

edit on 12-12-2010 by jmdewey60 because: (no reason given)



reply posted on 15-12-2010 @ 07:29 PM by sayiamu
reply to post by jmdewey60



I believe you are up against media-image experts there at September Clues my friend. There are hours and hours of detailed analysis to read ..not just a couple of light vs. dark images ...

I also invite you to take a look at the vicsims section.

the fact that everything shown on television that day was FAKE is irrefutable..if you have the motive and desire to research it...

new examples are found practically every day...


reply posted on 15-12-2010 @ 09:34 PM by jmdewey60
reply to post by sayiamu

I already said there was fake video.
I have researched it to a high degree.
The guy who made the movie is a flake.
He really does not know anything.
He put out a disinformation video to hide
the real fakery. Sorry.



reply posted on 16-12-2010 @ 09:34 PM by sayiamu
reply to post by jmdewey60



It's fine with you if we invite EVERYONE to go to septemberclues.info to judge for themselves?


reply posted on 16-12-2010 @ 09:49 PM by jmdewey60
reply to post by sayiamu

I don't care.
I brought this up on another thread but that is kind of flooded
with what amounts to spam, so maybe I should repeat it.
The guy who made September Clues was on the Rick Adams
show a week ago. Rick has a person who co-hosts with him
sometimes going by the name doctor K, who is a big no-planer.
So I guess they wanted to get the September Clues guy on,
probably thinking he would back up what they were saying.
He seemed to have agreed to go on in order to get some
exposure on some unrelated project. He said he had not
even looked at any 911 stuff, including his own movies,
for over a year. He had almost nothing to say about planes
or anything else about 911 and was rambling on about some
metaphysical utopian theory he was trying to put to use.

I should add that the show was on Republic Broadcasting Radio.
edit on 16-12-2010 by jmdewey60 because: (no reason given)



reply posted on 17-12-2010 @ 05:52 AM by jmdewey60
reply to post by sayiamu


I am listening to this show I mentioned, right now for the third time.
The guy's name is Christopher Holmes.
He says he has his own radio show where he had Dr. K on his show.
He is supposedly an expert on mass hypnosis.
"The mass media staged the event." He says.
"They are criminals."
"911 archives of the TV that morning is criminal evidence of
conspiracy for mass murder against corporate media."
"Study the series" (September Clues) says Christopher.
Doctor K. "We spend all our time wasting it proving a lie" (that there was no planes)
Christopher, "Media needs to be arrested and their assets seized, then we could make
a whole new system."
Doctor K., "Don't buy any of their product"
Adams, "Rockefeller wants to close access to the internet."
Christopher, "Corporate covered up Kennedy assassination. They are accessories
after the fact, covering up evidence. Tell the military to arrest the media."
Christopher, "Liars. They pre-plan events before they happen and have it all scripted
ahead of time. They are soul-less. Commit crimes on a daily bases. They create delusion.
Make people believe planes fold up their wings and go through a hole in a wall. Game,
they do. America is a terrorist state. 100,000 time more uranium used in the middle east
than they used against Japan in WW II. Killed 1.5 million."
edit on 17-12-2010 by jmdewey60 because: (no reason given)



reply posted on 17-12-2010 @ 07:03 AM by jmdewey60
Christopher Holmes: "While we were sleeping, they came and stole it all away.
We can't just go on all the time trying to fend off their latest attack. We need to
go on the offensive,there is no future for America if we do not deal with this"
Callers joined the show and asked some questions. Christopher gave a couple answers:
"Makes sense the fireman was instructed to look up, it was scripted, they knew it was
going to happen scripted."
"They were interviewing a woman who worked for the network in Chelsea who said, 'They
blew up the building.' She heard the explosion but did not see what caused it.
Then, 'Another plane just hit another building, It just flew into the middle of it and exploded!'
She just said that she did not know what caused the first one, then she is saying another one
hit. She had to have been told to say that. There are inconsistencies in what the media
was doing that are overlooked."
He has a web site, zeropoint.ca and has four books. And they are also available through Amazon.
So, this is how this hour of radio went with their guest, the guy behind the making
of the video series, September Clues. I thought I would make a mostly complete
transcript of the show so people can kind of judge this person themselves.
What my point is, and was trying to explain earlier is that this person feels certain
things happened and understands that we were all deluded. That much is obvious
and the whole scene of 911 was a crime scene but a crime by the government and
the media. He tries to convey this sense to his viewers but the arguments, in my
opinion are not especially substantial or, to me, convincing.
edit on 17-12-2010 by jmdewey60 because: (no reason given)



reply posted on 17-12-2010 @ 07:12 AM by sayiamu
reply to post by jmdewey60


What do you need to convince you ...? a perfect passport to flutter down from the towers with Satan's ID?

Can you provide a link rather than cut/paste transcipt?


reply posted on 17-12-2010 @ 07:23 AM by jmdewey60
reply to post by sayiamu

No, that's not something I copied.
I said I was listening.
I guess they liked this show so much
that the network decided to replay it a few times.
Like I said, this makes the third time I heard it.
I just wrote down what they were saying and
clicked "Post" when they paused for commercials.
So, that's a live, do it yourself transcript in real time.

edit on 17-12-2010 by jmdewey60 because: (no reason given)




reply posted on 17-12-2010 @ 10:20 AM by jmdewey60
Originally posted by sayiamu
Can you please send a link to the broadcast?
... from what you described " a light image of a plane vs. a dark image" .. it seemed at first that you did not investigate the septemberclues.info site beyond this.. it goes MUCH deeper than that .. (you just watched the movie?) ..
what is your take on vicsims? .. what is your take on the huge amount of photoshopped stills? .. what is your definitive stance on the event as a whole?
a fake is a fake .. are you splitting hairs?
www.republicbroadcasting.org
They have an archive but I think it is $1.50 a month to subscribe to it.
I don't have a subscription to the pod casts because I listen to it all day, anyway.
I've read a few articles that I found links to from other places but never went there specifically to investigate the entire site. I'm not on a hate campaign against September clues but point out individual things when I run across them, when they are obviously wrong.
My perspective on 911 is unique and that is why I bother doing anything about it at all.
Two things, which have to do with living in Sarasota County, Florida, where coincidentally was the supposed center of the hijacking plot Venice airport, ( where I drive past to go to the beach), and where President Bush was on 911, at an elementary school. So I am friends with someone who knew Atta and dealt with him on a daily bases, including the tenth of September, when the FBI says he was traveling to Maine and getting on a plane for Boston (even though this friend told the FBI and gave them video and hard copy records of a business transaction with Atta). Apparently Bush watched the plane crashes, like he later said, by having a camera man in place and up-linking the video feed to the local TV broadcasting station, which I watched myself, live, as it happened, in close up zoom.
Yes, photoshopped stills and manufactured video to make a "something else" look like a dive-bombing plane, while the real one was coming from a slightly different direction and low, level, and straight.
edit on 17-12-2010 by jmdewey60 because: (no reason given)



reply posted on 23-5-2012 @ 02:07 PM by 4hero
Originally posted by sayiamu
reply to
post by jmdewey60



It's fine with you if we invite EVERYONE to go to septemberclues.info to judge for themselves?


Cluesforum.info which is an actual forum by the person who made september clues has a wealth of info that puts the OS to bed! I urge people to spend some time sifting through all the great info there.
Pages: <<  25    26    27    28  >>    ^^TOP^^



Armed drones now flying over the US
  Posted 10 days ago with 118 member flags
FBI Agent Fleeing Massive Manhunt Warns "They\'re all insane."
  Posted 9 days ago with 11 member flags
The USA has plenty of oil....we\'ve been saving it.
  Posted 5 days ago with 11 member flags
Alien Hologram Ring, 100% bonafide alien tech
  Posted 2 days ago with 4 member flags
Hey Guys Did You Know There\'s No Such Thing As Aids ?
  Posted 6 days ago with 3 member flags
App used to make ghostly apparitions in photo [HOAX]
  Posted 14 days ago with 2 member flags
Reptililan Shapeshifters: Are these videos genuine?
  Posted 6 days ago with 2 member flags
Ace Baker proves No Planes at WTC.
  Posted 4 days ago with 0 member flags