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New Video: september clues exposes 911 TV Fakery


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reply posted on 6-6-2008 @ 11:50 AM by billybob


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you are the perfect slave.
if you don't like listening to conspiracy theory, stayus away from conspiracy forums.
some of like to spread what truth and valid questions we have, so that others will be aware of the problem. when critical mass of a meme is reached, stuff happens. revolutionary, no?
the powerful are only powerful because the people (especially people like you) are too scared to stand up for "truth, justice, and the american way". indeed, the truth is apparently worthy of nothing but irritation because you're 'sick of it', and others are worthy of nothing but your disdain because they seek it.

nice.



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reply posted on 21-6-2008 @ 12:14 AM by human8


Originally posted by PartChimp
Originally posted by PartChimp
Stop deflecting my questions. Do you agree with BS's assertion, from the "fantastic, evidence filled" video he provided, that from two different angles, two different cgi operators screwed up in the same precise way?

I am anxiously awaiting your answer.


Now please; answer my question.


It was the same operator from a central command center; they used an angle extrapolator to make it look like a different angle. Watch Enemy of the State. 10 years old but some glimpse into the capabilities even back then. I think any amount of research into the use of media and movies to "hide-in-plain-sight" parts of black op's and portray with many red herring side theories is a pretty vibrant current meme, whether true or not, I don't know. Or maybe technology is only as advanced as the currently available CGI applications? I would ask you to show any way for you to be certain and know what kind of technology the government has regarding CGI, and to make a blanket denial on this basis seems to fall a bit shy as being a debunk of any kind. I personally lean toward the missile attack theory. After seeing the way the immediate public mindset was managed and manipulated to think that there was a muslim terrorist attack before anything was known stinks to high heaven of false flag op's. I have heard enough eye witness testimony claiming "missle" to discount this because I don't want to entertain the possibility. I am bound by the search for truth to entertain any possibility that could explain an phenomenon.I also would respectfully point to the deaths of the people in the towers being used to imply guilt trips on anyone who doubts the "official report" even though not one mention of the dead or defaming their memory was ever said, stated or implied.



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reply posted on 25-10-2008 @ 04:42 PM by Anonymous ATS


God bless the entire 'September Clues' documentary, as well as the '911 Taboo' documentary.
Even when the footage was brand new to the world, I was very suspicious of the authenticity of the 'planes' shown. I remember seeing a very popular close-up shot of the 'plane' hitting the South Tower. It was completely gray (gray tail, gray jet engined, and the entire fuselage was gray), however, I knew even back then that a REAL United Airlines plane has BLUE jet engines, a blue tail, and the entire lower fuselage is blue. I knew as soon as I saw the close-up shots of Flight 175 that something was terribly wrong. The only problem was back then, I didn't know why the mainstream media was telling us lies.
It wasn't until the U.S. started it's 'war on terror' when I began realizing the footage shown on tv displayed completely fake planes hitting the WTC to correspond with a bomb explosion. I began researching TV fakery, False Flag operations, and obviously, the very convincing No Plane Theory of 9/11.
It makes me extremely furious to think the U.S. government, military and mainstream military were all part of this scandal just so the United States could gain means to start wars over oil.
God bless the 9/11 Truth Movement, and I hope the truth finally is revealed to the unsuspecting world someday!

Here is my 9/11 TV fakery photo album:
www.facebook.com...



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reply posted on 7-11-2008 @ 08:23 PM by Doomsday 2029


Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
God bless the entire 'September Clues' documentary


I'm gonna have to agree with that statement... And also I would like to include that I want to know how fast an actual Boeing can travel at low altitude.



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reply posted on 27-1-2009 @ 08:48 PM by Anonymous ATS


I am pretty new to all of this. I watched the video (September Clues) last night and thought it was very interesting. The scenario that objects that appeared to be commercial jets (due to video and audio tampering) were actually "winged missiles" seems to make more sense to me than the "no planes or winged objects whatsoever" idea. The video was compelling, but today I wondered if the producers actually doctored their own video since they seemed to know so much about how to "professionally" manipulate video and audio.

Did anyone else have this thought?



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reply posted on 5-2-2009 @ 04:16 PM by _BoneZ_


September Clueless uses purposeful deception to deceive you into believing their theories. Even after the producer of September Clueless was shown the evidence by myself and a few others. Check out my post here in the forums at the link below to see how easily it is to debunk the no-plane disinfo garbage:

www.abovetopsecret.com...



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reply posted on 15-4-2009 @ 12:58 AM by Grimstad


Just because YOU are overwelmed by the evidence, does not mean the evidence is overwelming.



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reply posted on 15-4-2009 @ 03:59 PM by _BoneZ_


Originally posted by Grimstad
Just because YOU are overwelmed by the evidence, does not mean the evidence is overwelming.

"September Clues" has been easily debunked for some time because there is NO evidence. Read it and weep:

arabesque911.blogspot.com...



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reply posted on 15-4-2009 @ 11:28 PM by matrixNIN11


Originally posted by _BoneZ_
September Clueless uses purposeful deception to deceive you into believing their theories. Even after the producer of September Clueless was shown the evidence by myself and a few others. Check out my post here in the forums at the link below to see how easily it is to debunk the no-plane disinfo garbage:

www.abovetopsecret.com...


what bonez won't mention or show though, is how easily his so-called sc debunking was debunked by me back in january.

seriously bonez,,, no matter how much you'd like to make people believe there's no evidence to support NPT or that there's not a rapidly growing movement of people who believe in it, it won't change the FACT there is.

but then again, your ego, lack of research, closed-mind and fact you have a retarded concept of what the real NPT is about, its no wonder you claim its BS.

resistance is futile... you'll never win. deal with it.




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reply posted on 16-4-2009 @ 05:15 PM by _BoneZ_


Originally posted by matrixNIN11
lack of research

The research has been done and posted long ago. I've debunked every single point you guys have made on this forum and I've shown links, pictures and videos to back up everything I've debunked. And you've posted.....

NOTHING! You have not posted a single piece of factual, verifiable evidence. Which is no surprise since there is NONE!


Originally posted by matrixNIN11
a rapidly growing movement of people who believe in it

More like "rapidly shut out". Read below.


Originally posted by matrixNIN11
you'll never win.

Sorry, but we already won when almost every single 9/11 truth forum and research organization shut you guys down by publicly stating they don't support NPT, or by going even further in banning the discussion of NPT on their forums.

Right now it's all about educating others to not fall for the disinfo cult that is NPT.



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reply posted on 16-4-2009 @ 07:41 PM by matrixNIN11


at this point, theres really no need to respond any further to your silly deluded diatribe other than cutting and pasting this link...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Originally posted by _BoneZ_
Originally posted by matrixNIN11
lack of research

The research has been done and posted long ago. I've debunked every single point you guys have made on this forum and I've shown links, pictures and videos to back up everything I've debunked. And you've posted.....

NOTHING! You have not posted a single piece of factual, verifiable evidence. Which is no surprise since there is NONE!


Originally posted by matrixNIN11
a rapidly growing movement of people who believe in it

More like "rapidly shut out". Read below.


Originally posted by matrixNIN11
you'll never win.

Sorry, but we already won when almost every single 9/11 truth forum and research organization shut you guys down by publicly stating they don't support NPT, or by going even further in banning the discussion of NPT on their forums.

Right now it's all about educating others to not fall for the disinfo cult that is NPT.



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reply posted on 1-7-2009 @ 03:57 PM by titorite


We can never deny ignorance by not talking about a subject.

The September clues project is very close to me for a number of reasons. Pilots for 911 truth lead me to it. After viewing it so many things made sense, Impossible turns at the pentagon, Not real just made up. The lack of wreckage anywhere, not real planted, made up. The Shanksville crater that makes no sense at all as dirt can not swallow a plane like water, easy, not real made up.

At first I was skeptical about the September clues footage, Then I compared what they pointed out to my own copy of the days events... the same footage that should be available in the Archives of ATS as well as camera planet or youtube or whatever other media source you see fit to use.

In my VHS copy of the days events I saw the EXACT SAME THINGS they pointed out in the SC videos.

Now some claim to have debunked the SC videos with the same kind of passion the skeptics claim to of debunked 911 conspiracy theory altogether.
I would ask for dispassion and a commitment to an open mind.

A conspiracy of this nature does not include the whole world. In fact it included a very narrow world. Namely certain elements with in the mainstream media...certainly Rupert Murdoch and his team of talking heads... And some politicians as well...

I also think it is important to remember Bushs grand father is Prescott bush. He takes his cues from the same play book. Hitler believed the bigger the lie you told the more apt the people would be to believe it. What happened on 911 was a CGI lie. Planted explosives that got people to look up and then assume a plane hit. No holograms, remote control planes, no pods, just planted bombs and CGI lies.

I invite one and all to watch September clues 1-9 and to compare the small details they bring up to the ATS archives or your own VHS footage of that day and see for yourself is things match up or not.



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reply posted on 1-7-2009 @ 04:55 PM by _BoneZ_


Originally posted by titorite
The September clues project is very close to me for a number of reasons. Pilots for 911 truth lead me to it.

Just to be clear, there is an "Alternative Theories" forum hidden out of public view where the no-plane disinfo can be discussed/debated. However, Pilots for 9/11 Truth officially does not support the no-plane disinfo.


Originally posted by titorite
After viewing it so many things made sense, Impossible turns at the pentagon, Not real just made up. The lack of wreckage anywhere, not real planted, made up. The Shanksville crater that makes no sense at all as dirt can not swallow a plane like water, easy, not real made up.

Um, "September Clues" had nothing to do with the Pentagon or Shanksville. You're trying to promote a video and you don't even know what it's about.

"September Clues" deals with "tv fakery" on the twin towers and nothing to do with the Pentagon or Shanksville.


Originally posted by titorite
I would ask for dispassion and a commitment to an open mind.

We had an open mind a couple years ago when the no-plane disinfo was running rampant everywhere. Many of us spent countless hours debating, researching and discussing the no-plane topic back then.

Needless to say, most intelligent people with a residue of common sense saw right through the disinfo and deception that "September Clues" tried to peddle.

Because of the thorough research of NPT back then, 9/11 research organizations and forums started distancing themselves from NPT by banning the discussion and/or making public statements discounting NPT.

To sum things up, it was discussed and debated back then, debunked back then, and is still debunked. There's nothing left to debate on the subject of NPT.

As I've told members of the NPT disinfo cult many times, until they start obtaining copies of the original videos and have them professionally analyzed for fakery, they will never have any factual evidence and only will ever have opinion, theory and conjecture, period.


Originally posted by titorite
I invite one and all to watch September clues 1-9 and to compare the small details they bring up to the ATS archives or your own VHS footage of that day and see for yourself is things match up or not.

Then, once people have seen "September Clues", they can then watch:

"September Clues - Busted" which exposes the deception, insidious innuendo, misdirection and lies in the “September Clues” series of videos:
video.google.com...

Debunking "September Clues" - A Point-By-Point Analysis:
truthaction.org...

The Great Nose In -- Nose out Hoax:
www.youtube.com...



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